On a side note: Anyone here use a popcorn hour nmt player for a 1080p movie?? I just got a preorder notice and I'm waiting on my order to arrive and wanting to play just about any format hooked up to the sony bravia via popcorn hour.
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jj, I just read the earlier posts here, and pretty much all of BenPs earlier comments are common knowledge for AV enthusiasts in the UK.
The guy has spent a lot of time summarising some very worthwhile information here - you'd do well to read and take it in, rather than asking for proof.
I've read and appreciate his thoughts on what he said and to me there is still no proof, these are just assumptions that maybe 40% of avs forum users theorize. I only want to see proof on the internal design that actually backs up this theory, thats all. In a professional level, I've not seen any articles that prove this as well.
Fair enough my man. There are some pretty knowledgeable people who accept downscaling on older displays (mine included) as fact. But proof is a tricky thing. I suggest you get the relevant training, then disassemble a display and check it out for yourself. That's about the only method which would supersede the amount of well established and ratified knowledge out there.
Believe what you wish, that's absolutely your prerogative.
Lol, to me its quite the opposite without any physical proof. 😉
I'm just curious as if this was true, why are there no one in the professional level with a good tear down/statistical data sheet to prove this? I mean just to google it and if this was true/proven, it would pop out just about everywhere showing why (with proof) the cheaper hdtv's actually were fake 1080p. To me sounds like someone who was just highly respected in the avs forums came up with this so called theory and just everyone else just became a follower.
To me its like saying the world is still flat and I can tell you why because from viewing the sun going down on a ocean and why it looks flat from our perspective of the world or tie in how our eyes work and tricks us thinking the world is round. But without proof what good is it?
(sigh)
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/prerogative
I'll leave this one well alone now I think. Have a good weekend.
You tied in the word "wish" with prerogative, those two do not mix, rather it be it is because of proof. =D
divedude
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I have the 52" XBR4 hung in my bedroom and I agree it is a excellent TV. My main TV is the 70" Qualia 006.
So back to how this thread started, I would also like to burn Blu-ray disks of my underwater activities that could be played on the commercial players.
If you burn bluray disks, would a bluray player be able to play the disc in the first place?? I mean I know if I burned dvd even dl burned discs it surely wont play on a regular dvd player, maybe if the dvd player supported copied discs.
I just dont bother, as I keep everything in hdd and just stream it to the hdtv.
Hmm a Qualia you say? Arnt those discontinued since 2006?
But I am jealous of my cousin from San Diego who installed this hdtv in his theatre room: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-KDL-70...ronics&qid=1205793626&sr=1-9&tag=bluraycom-21
Guess why I had to have a sony bravia after viewing that, lol.
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divedude
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I want to put the content on Blu-ray for sale and distribution. Just like when I started burning DVD's in the early days, they weren't reliable, but that changed. It is just going to take longer with Blu-ray. I seriously doubt that the Blu-ray player manufactures are going to be putting out firmware to fix playability issues for my disks. They are busy keeping up with the issues from the major studios 😉
The Qualia line was discontinued after Sony got a new CEO and decided to get out of the high end market.
Lol, to get out of high end market sure 🙄
Weird how the sony bravia xbr series are ALOT better in quality than the aged qualia.
I just found this: In March, Sony replaced Nobuyuki Idei, their chairman and CEO, with Howard Stringer. He spent a few months assessing the strategy and profitability of each of the divisions and took action in September.
However, now the dust has settled, it appears that some Qualia products will survive in the U.S.A. In the U.K. X3ELS on these forums actually distributes them and he reckoned at the time that the projector would survive - although other Qualia products would not.
I think that I read Nobuyuki Idei was dieing (that could be a rumor not sure) but I'm sure its not the reason because sony is getting out of the "high end market" and they just replaced the old technology of rear projection hdtvs (have you ever seen it compared to the new lcd bravias?? The rear projection looks like crap compared to the new lcd bravias. I officially dont believe that you have a 52" sony bravia xbr4 hung in your bedroom or anywhere in your house.
oh please c'mon~~
update: The groundbreaking Japanese technology and entertainment company had stumbled financially and technologically in recent years partly because of divisions between its engineering and its entertainment units. It needed someone to pull its parts together so that it did not lose more ground to relative newcomers in consumer electronics like Apple Computer and its iPod, or the rapidly growing electronics manufacturers in South Korea and China that are combining next-generation flat-panel television and superclean chip-making operations at lower cost.
Here's the rest of the article if your curious where I quoted from: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/08/business/worldbusiness/08reconstruct.html
Basically the Sony Qualia is an over priced lower quality hdtv.
divedude
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This will be my last reply to someone as bias as you that just wants to argue with people. Before I put the XBR4 in the bedroom, I set it next to the Qualia and the Qualia has a much better picture. The Qualia is still known as one of the best if not the very best displays made. And here is a picture of the XBR in front of the Qualia before I moved it next to it to compare. I then moved it to the bedroom, but you can believe what you want.
This will be my last reply to someone as bias as you that just wants to argue with people. Before I put the XBR4 in the bedroom, I set it next to the Qualia and the Qualia has a much better picture. The Qualia is still known as one of the best if not the very best displays made. And here is a picture of the XBR in front of the Qualia before I moved it next to it to compare. I then moved it to the bedroom, but you can believe what you want.
No way that looks like a 52" bravia to a 70" Qualia hdtv. No way that's 18" difference.
It looks like a 37" compared to a 42"
And I dont believe you.
No way that is a 70"
Of course pictures dont do it any justice.
And yes your quite done here goodbye.
This is the wrong attitude to be taking. If it weren't for a telecommunications industry crippled by systematic greed, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Bandwidth would be plentiful, digital downloads would have won, Blu Ray would be 6 feet under or at least in serious peril and we'd all have instantaneous access to HD content.
Apple has the right idea, it's just a pity owners of macs must be the victim of their conviction.
gugucom
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Apple are just protecting their online business with sub standard quality movies. As soon as someone gets used to 1080p on a quality set he will never go back to that manure Steve is flogging to his fan boys.
I have bought a 720p HDTV (HD ready) four years ago and as soon as the right technology was available (local dimming LED backlight) I have switched to 1080p and Blu-Ray. I will never look back. Even countries like Germany with high population density and short distances for networks will take many years to get only 10% of their viewers to online content. In the meantime the stuff will go over the satellites like crazy. WE are having growth in HDTV channels as the public owned broadcasters are following the private and subscription channels. My Sky subscription has eight HD channels from Sport (Soccer, Formula 1, Golf and athletics), Movies to Discovery. All that bunch goes down via the satellite in HD and often Full HD.
The main reason my Mac Pro runs Vista is to make sure I can watch Blu-Ray movies.
I have bought a 720p HDTV (HD ready) four years ago and as soon as the right technology was available (local dimming LED backlight) I have switched to 1080p and Blu-Ray. I will never look back. Even countries like Germany with high population density and short distances for networks will take many years to get only 10% of their viewers to online content. In the meantime the stuff will go over the satellites like crazy. WE are having growth in HDTV channels as the public owned broadcasters are following the private and subscription channels. My Sky subscription has eight HD channels from Sport (Soccer, Formula 1, Golf and athletics), Movies to Discovery. All that bunch goes down via the satellite in HD and often Full HD.
The main reason my Mac Pro runs Vista is to make sure I can watch Blu-Ray movies.
Hey everyone, I just joined so I could reply to this post. I know it has been a while since you guys have discussed this topic, but considering that this is the first thing that comes up if you google "Watch Blu-Ray on Mac" I figured this would be a good place to mention this.
The state of Blu-Ray is pretty much the same as it was when this thread started... non-existant in the sense that you cannot pop in a Blu-Ray movie and watch it on your computer with ease. However, you CAN watch a Blu-Ray movie if you rip it to your computer first, or... if you feel like running Boot Camp, you can play it back without any hassles at all (aside from being in Windows, ugh).
Additionally, I've literally scoured the web for GOOD information on internal Blu-Ray drives and ultimately found lots of people that were interested... but no one who took the plunge. I went ahead and did this and now I can not only play Blu-Rays (in Windows) but I can rip and burn to BD-Rs in OSX.
Considering that I have been a huge fan of using a Mac mini as a HTPC/Media Center, I always wondered why there wasn't ONE good spot for all the information on the subject. This is a bit of shameless self promotion, but at the same time, it has to do with the subject at hand as well. I made a website called http://www.applemediacenter.com which you should check out. But most importantly, you should look at the Blu-Ray section which should hopefully help you guys out as well as anyone else that arrived on this page looking for that exact bit of information.
http://www.applemediacenter.com/guides/blu-ray/
Enjoy guys!
The state of Blu-Ray is pretty much the same as it was when this thread started... non-existant in the sense that you cannot pop in a Blu-Ray movie and watch it on your computer with ease. However, you CAN watch a Blu-Ray movie if you rip it to your computer first, or... if you feel like running Boot Camp, you can play it back without any hassles at all (aside from being in Windows, ugh).
Additionally, I've literally scoured the web for GOOD information on internal Blu-Ray drives and ultimately found lots of people that were interested... but no one who took the plunge. I went ahead and did this and now I can not only play Blu-Rays (in Windows) but I can rip and burn to BD-Rs in OSX.
Considering that I have been a huge fan of using a Mac mini as a HTPC/Media Center, I always wondered why there wasn't ONE good spot for all the information on the subject. This is a bit of shameless self promotion, but at the same time, it has to do with the subject at hand as well. I made a website called http://www.applemediacenter.com which you should check out. But most importantly, you should look at the Blu-Ray section which should hopefully help you guys out as well as anyone else that arrived on this page looking for that exact bit of information.
http://www.applemediacenter.com/guides/blu-ray/
Enjoy guys!
Cave Man
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I think it's pretty easy. Just insert the disc, launch Make MKV and start its streaming server and open the stream in VLC. It's not that difficult to do, it just takes a minute or two.
We all pretty much know about this. There have been threads that provide the details for about a year now.
The key words you used are, "we all pretty much know this." It is by far the norm and people still have to go searching for this information. And while it may be available in a thread which goes on for several pages, it makes a heck of a lot more sense for there to be one resource that has everything in one place.
The easiest way to do that IMO, is make a new thread, and request that it be make a sticky.