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My question is, and maybe some of you might know this? Will quicktime after this update use the GPU to decode the H264 stuff or will it still be software based decoding.

Quicktime does not even have the capability to decode High Profile H.264 video right now. Only Base and Main Profiles are supported. Bluray uses High Profile.

Also to anyone that compares video streaming and calling it high quality are completely out of touch with what Bluray has to offer. Bluray offer 1920x1080 24p with H.264 or VC-1 or even MPEG-2 with bitrates as high as 40Mbps. The audio can be as high as 20Mbps. Yes you read that right. I have a concert BD that uses 5.1 channel 24-bit/96kHz PCM for an audio only bitrate of 13.6Mbps. If you guys want to compare this kind of capability with a 5Mbps or 6Mbps HD stream for both audio and video, I pity you guys.

Bluray makes a huge difference when it comes to displaying on a big screen and a good audio environment. Yes, this is not how majority of people watch home A/V, but again - we are talking about high quality here, not lowest common denominator.

My setup is a 1080p projector (Epson 1080UB) with native 24p support as well as 60p, 118" diagonal screen, Harman Kardon AVR 745, Klipsch Reference series speakers, Elemental Designs A3/350 subwoofer, PS3 (for DVDs and Blurays), iMac (for ripped DVDs), Dish ViP722.
 
Apple used to be competitive in laptops - not anymore

I am a mac guy at home. I use PC only at work. I have an imac right now. However, I think Apple is severely behind in the laptop market now. They used to be about equal. When companies like Sony can sell a pretty good looking laptop with Bluray drive built-in as well as HDMI out, webcam, etc for the same price as a MacBook, it bothers me.
 
5. Blu-ray discs aren't thin enough. :D

People wanted to make DVDs half as thick to fit better into magazines and make it more environment-friendly. A DVD only uses half of its thickness for data (the reflecting material is sandwitched between two acrylic discs), so you could just put the label onto the reflective material (like CDs) and make it half as thick.

But these discs turned out to be very floppy and thus destroy disc drives they were put in rather quickly. It would probably work fine when you keep the thickness on the center part and have a thinner, but harder material like glass for the data. But if you've handled a glass CD negative (used for stamp-pressing CDs), you know how awkward, heavy and fragile they are.

PS: I "obtained" an IBM CPU-Wafer from an IT exposition once because It looked awesome as a mousepad. Fell on the floor and split into billions of pieces. I still find some sparkling stuff on the floor occasionally after 4 years. But damn, it was a cool mouse pad!
 
Blu-Ray Mac Mini

So now I need to wait until January for a worthwhile Mac Mini update before I buy? Damn!
 
If they release MBP's in few months, I hope that they offer blu-ray drives at least as a built-to-order option, even if the 10.5.6 update is not ready yet.

Same here. I'm not getting a new MBP until I can get a Blu-ray/DVD/CD combo drive in it.
 
I'm very pleased to at last be able to confirm once and for all that new macbooks will be released later.

later means?

Some says new macbooks will come out in jan 09, some says shipping and will be out on oct 31, some says it will be launched on oct 14.

Soo many romours.......

Can someone give 1 date hehe, its soo confusing, shell i buy a macbook now or wait.....
 
Sony has lost this war, they just don't realize it yet.

I am not sure if there will be a clear winner soon


HD Downloads don't stand a chance at the moment with the way current ISP's are acting. Most major isps in the UK have either monthly caps in place, or even more annoyingly like mine, you can only download 1gb within a 4 hour period otherwise your connection is capped at 25% it's normal speed. As well as someone previously said, there just isn't a viable source to rent/buy HD downloads on the net for people outside the US yet. iTunes has nothing. The only viable source I have is through my cable box, I can rent HD content through there, but no purchase.

The real problem is that the IP provider need to figure out a way how to earn money on the ever expanding bandwith growth without people really paying for it.
 
I wonder if the current line of Apple computers has enough horsepower to watch Blue-Ray Disc video smoothly. :confused:
 
I hope that they do it. While I have given up on Optical formats, I know a lot of other people really want it for some reason, and they have a right to be happy too.
 
Who cares about Bluray support? What people want is to play bluray movies with their drives. If I understand things right, this will not happen.

The reason why Apple don't have a software bluray player is because of the DRM that has to be implemented in an OS layer. I think it's good that Apple took a stance against the crazy DRM in Bluray. Maybe Bluray alliance has loosen their requirements to give Apple keys to decrypt blurays streams.

I don't think so.

The bluray option is the only reason why I have switched my HTPC from a macmini to a PC. But since PC can play software blurays from disk images, I don't need and hardware bluray drive to wath Blurays. I have all my bluray and HDDVD movies on hard drives.
 
I wonder if the current line of Apple computers has enough horsepower to watch Blue-Ray Disc video smoothly. :confused:

You need a computer with graphic card acceleration on PC. That means that the only macs that could play blurays are those with real graphics cards.

No macbooks. No macminis.

The next revision of Intel integrated graphics can play bluray. If Apple uses it, a hardware bump should be released same time as bluray support.
 
If the new MBP's don't have BR and HDMI, I'm getting a Vaio. :eek:

exactly my words, i have 2 choices.

1) New Macbook
2) Vaio SR or Z series.

If apple dont come with a new macbook in oct 31, i m going for a vaio.

I atleast need HDMI in the macbooks and more ram, hdd, processor etc.
 
by the time Apple implement it, the PC world would have moved onto the next technology... :rolleyes:

Exactly, didn't Samsung or some other company say Blu-Ray only had another 6 months to a year to run. Maybe Apple are going to skip it and spend their money elsewhere - i.e. keep improving digital download technology while others get distracted by a short-term technology.
 
I wonder if the current line of Apple computers has enough horsepower to watch Blue-Ray Disc video smoothly. :confused:

You need a computer with graphic card acceleration on PC. That means that the only macs that could play blurays are those with real graphics cards.

No macbooks. No macminis.

You are mistaken. Even a Mini has the ability to play Blu-Ray m2ts files.
 
we wait to long

A year from now? Thats ridiculous, january 2009 is still to long to wait! Apple could be making a huge premium if they sold Blu-ray drives, there expensive even on windows (even at places like newegg.com.)

Does any one agree with me on this? I'm not going to buy a blu-ray at the cost right now, but I know plenty of rich friends who would buy this.
 
Physical media will go away eventually. As many people here pointed out, it's probable that BD (Blu-Ray) is the last optical media. The efforts are going into cloud computing so your data would be everywhere and you only need a device to access it, be it a pocket-sized, laptop-sized or workstation-sized. Look at Google Docs, your data is on their servers and you can access it from anywhere.

For this to happen though, bandwidth would have to increase dramatically, both on cellular networks and wire-based ones. Personally, I don't like sharing all my stuff with the rest of the world like that though...

You should all take a deep breath and read "The Machine Stops" a short story by E. M. Forster. It provides an interesting insight into a world where someone else (them) control all of the conveniences of life (update would be "control our data"), and when the "machine" breaks...

I like all of my data in the "cloud" where I can get to it anywhere, but some stuff, like my personal docs and media, I want close at hand where I can control it. The cloud and my personal copies on physical media back each other up.

So, no physical media won't die for those of us who actually think about failure modes.

Eddie O
 
A year from now? Thats ridiculous, january 2009 is still to long to wait! Apple could be making a huge premium if they sold Blu-ray drives, there expensive even on windows (even at places like newegg.com.)

Does any one agree with me on this? I'm not going to buy a blu-ray at the cost right now, but I know plenty of rich friends who would buy this.

How much is too much for Blu-ray? The retail price of a slime-line slot-loading Blu-ray SuperDrive is $1000, and that won't even fit in an MBs, 15" MBPs or 20" iMacs.

PS: It's funny how the same people that hate DRM and HDCP seem to be the same ones that just have to have Blu-ray with its DRM and HDCP.
 
*sigh*

You can already burn HD video to DVD and Blu-ray disks in OS X!

The only thing that you cannot do is burn or watch disks that use HDCP. That's IT!

And which native app allows you to burn to Blu-ray directly from iMovie?

Pretty sure you'll need a 3rd party solution til apple releases one
 
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