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Bluetooth Enabled iPods?

So now nobody will buy anything that is stationary or not wireless.
Just laptops and other mobile machines :D
Wireless = :D
Do wireless like BT and WiFi have any bi effect's like mobile phones can have :confused:
 
rtdgoldfish said:
Sounds good to me. Anything to give the iPod an edge over the rest of the MP3 players out there. Any word if this will be an accross the board feature or only on the higer-end models??

And I can see Steve at his WWDC keynote pulling out his new in-ear wireless headphones to introduce the new iPod :D
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This would be an exceptional thing for mountain bikers. No more cables to catch on trees, etc. Stick your shuffle somewhere relatively safe and let the BT Headphones jam!
 
There are BT adapters for iPod already--so maybe this just means the car will work with those, and not a special iPod that had BT built-in?
 
abrooks said:
And your 3Mbps connection runs at exactly 3000 odd Kbps, I think not it runs at around 300Kbps which was the original number stated :)
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And lets not confuse bits and bytes here, people. 3mbps means 3 megabits per second. 3 megabits per second isn't anywhere close to 3 megabytes per second.

For a bit of perspective: Bluetooth 2.0 is less than half the speed of USB 1.1
 
Yay, hopefully Apple will make bluetooth headphones more common. It's kind of tough to find a bluetooth headphone now.
 
swingerofbirch said:
remember when time magazine said the 4g ipods had some secret features that apple would unlock at some point...
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That mention was very vague and not particularly a reliable. I doubt it meant anything at all--and FWIW people have dissected the latest iPods and there's no antenna inside.

Would be cool though :)
 
data transfer rate v streaming rate

Chaszmyr said:
And lets not confuse bits and bytes here, people. 3mbps means 3 megabits per second. 3 megabits per second isn't anywhere close to 3 megabytes per second.

For a bit of perspective: Bluetooth 2.0 is less than half the speed of USB 1.1
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That's right, but even though 3 Mbps is less than half the speed of USB 1.1, you only really need about 400kbps to stream uncompressed CD quality sound to a speaker. Data transfer rate is different from data streaming, because they serve different purposes - like, in this case, transferring the entire song and playing it afterwards versus streaming it and playing it on the go. AirTunes on the Airport Express already does that, and from an audio streaming perspective all that bandwidth is really not needed.
 
ipod photo

... and, on a seemingly related note, just noticed that this morning the shipping time for iPod photos has abruptly gone up to 6 days on the UK apple store, and 2-4 business days in the US store, about the same as the minis. Draw your own conclusions...
 
I would love to see bluetooth 2.0 wireless headphones or something for the car, would this make a large dent on battery life though? I can see the iPod flamers already...
 
This would not do anything for me personally.

I'm completely happy with Griffin's iTrip, and I always plug my iPod into whichever of my three Macs I happen to be working on to get at files - and I won't be getting bluetooth on any computer until I get a new PM G5 at the end of the year....
 
corywoolf said:
I would rather just have a docking station built into a deck (CD Player). The audio quality will be good but not quiet the same as the ipod your bmw style kit. But I realize this will make it cheaper and more car companies will include it as a build to order option in the deck. Plus since the ipod changes every few months, It would suck if they put a built in dock in the car and it had a diff. connection a year later.
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As you say, this solution lets the car interface with different ipod models with different dock connectors. Also, this opens the possibility for other devices, like your BT2.0-equipped PowerBook, to stream audio to your car stereo. So now, your kids can watch DVDs on your PB and listen to it over the car stereo.
 
Hmm, first the announcement at MWSF that a lot of car makers will include iPod docks in the cars. Then, all of a sudden, a couple of months later, they will be unnecessary? :confused:
 
nagromme said:
That mention was very vague and not particularly a reliable. I doubt it meant anything at all--and FWIW people have dissected the latest iPods and there's no antenna inside.

Would be cool though :)
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Ah, dissected the hardware, nobody knows about the software ;)

..unless they.. do

But the new mini iPod could very well have this new bluetooth functionality. I knew they were going to add a new innovation to it (the mini's first had the clickwheel) but it's already been mentioned about the color screen, which, although not very innovative, could be that "innovation" I'm expecting. But then, maybe Apple don't think that's enough, and they're going to release a 6GB, color screen LCD, bluetooth 2.0 enabled iPod Mini :D

..shut up, I can dream! :p

-Luke
 
Lacero said:
<snip> iPod-lite would sell for $79 dollars and be used to control music from Airport Express stations around the home.<snip>
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read Lacero's post steve, plz :p

BT on Pods looks nice, i allways thought BT would have kicked in earlier though, all for this peace of wireless tech!
 
If they introduce this I hope it will be a clip-on Bluetooth module with it's own built-in batterypack. This will make it exellent for streaming music to a set of wireless headphones, a car stereo or any hifi. But if it's gonna draw it's power from the iPod's battery the battery life will be abyssimal (my guess is that it would be cut in half, but I might be positivly surprised).

Forget about syncing, even if Bluetooth 2.0+EDR has a theoretical transfer speed of 3 Mbps = 384 kBps (8 bits = 1 Byte), not half but a quarter of the USB 1.1 speed which operates at 12 Mbps. Chances are that Bluetooth will be MUCH slower in real life. Bluetooth 1.1 doesn't reach anywhere near the theoretical 723 kbps it should have according to the standard. Not to mention this will also drain the battery.

What's wrong with syncing whenever you have to charge it? I charge my iPod mini every day, or at the most every other day... I rarely need to sync it between charges...
 
redeye_be said:
read Lacero's post steve, plz :p

BT on Pods looks nice, i allways thought BT would have kicked in earlier though, all for this peace of wireless tech!
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But that's not a hard-drive-less iPod - it's just a remote :rolleyes:
 
EssentialParado said:
But that's not a hard-drive-less iPod - it's just a remote :rolleyes:
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true :rolleyes: , but it would still make a great remote :D

a (in make :confused: ) mini that will be waiting to be shipped for another 2 weeks :( with my name on it, comes with BT 1. 1?, not 2.0.

...

not planning on buying an iPod very soon but still ...

then again, i'll have a mini :p :D

EDIT: about the battery power for BT, isn't it designed to require very little power?
 
B-52 Macer said:
Hmm, first the announcement at MWSF that a lot of car makers will include iPod docks in the cars. Then, all of a sudden, a couple of months later, they will be unnecessary? :confused:
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Two Questions:
1) Which car companies are doing this and will there be stand alone car decks that you can install?

2) Was the agreement to include docks, or just an agreement to have iPod functionality. What I am getting at here is that if the language was to include iPod functionality, at the time people may have just assumed a dock since that was the only option. but in actuality, they just agreed on iPod compatability.
 
AtHomeBoy_2000 said:
Two Questions:
1) Which car companies are doing this and will there be stand alone car decks that you can install?

2) Was the agreement to include docks, or just an agreement to have iPod functionality. What I am getting at here is that if the language was to include iPod functionality, at the time people may have just assumed a dock since that was the only option. but in actuality, they just agreed on iPod compatability.
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Good questions!
However, it seems to include a cable, in the announced cases anyway.
http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/01/12/ipodauto/index.php
 
jsw said:
However, 384 kB/sec is wicked fast for that purpose - it could handle uncompressed music, no problem.
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Um, but uncompressed data streams are 1.4 Mbit/sec - the same as a CD (Because it is uncompressed). It doesn't matter what the original source is (mp3,mp4) the 44 kHz 16 bit audio is fixed and way to large for bluetooth 1.0.
 
iPod + bluetooth = iChat mobile

I guess a bluetooth iPod would go well with a bluetooth car so you could listen to the music over the stereo system...
Maybe the Bluetooth capability will allow for some kind of messaging like iChat for iPods...add a cheap small resolution video camera from griffin or something, and you get bluetooth video chat. This could be very popular for students sitting on opposite ends of a Starbucks, or something. That would be neat! ;)
 
zef said:
……offering a maximum data rate of 3Mbps. ………
That seems a lot faster to me, not?
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In case anybody is wondering.

Take 384 kBps, multiply it by 8 ( it's kilo Bytes, each of which is 8 bits )and you'll see that the results is appx 3M bits per sec.

Just for once, everybody was saying the same things, but in different ways.
 
msconvert said:
Um, but uncompressed data streams are 1.4 Mbit/sec - the same as a CD (Because it is uncompressed). It doesn't matter what the original source is (mp3,mp4) the 44 kHz 16 bit audio is fixed and way to large for bluetooth 1.0.
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They were talking about Bluetooth 2 not 1... 1.4Mbps is 179KBps, well below the 384KBps stated previously for bluetooth 2.
 
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