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Bluetooth Enabled iPods?

So essentially one can just use their bluetooth enabled laptop versus an ipod, or is there something else withing the auto that utilizes a certain software or protocol - is it limited to ipod or would it work somehow with itunes from said laptop? Interesting...
 
irobot2003 said:
They were talking about Bluetooth 2 not 1... 1.4Mbps is 179KBps, well below the 384KBps stated previously for bluetooth 2.
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Built in Airport extreme 802.11G would better!
 
Overinterpretation?

I can't read the French in the originating article, but the quote:

"The interview with Nedelcou reveals that consumers will soon be able to listen to music wirelessly from their iPod through their car speakers."

Seems to me, he's talking about a Motorola in-car product that you can connect to devices LIKE the iPod.

I'd be pretty suprised if a Product Manager at MOT had that kind of intimate knowledge of future Apple products!

Dogfood1
 
msconvert said:
Um, but uncompressed data streams are 1.4 Mbit/sec - the same as a CD (Because it is uncompressed). It doesn't matter what the original source is (mp3,mp4) the 44 kHz 16 bit audio is fixed and way to large for bluetooth 1.0.
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Normal CD's play at 150K per second.
 
puckhead193 said:
You can sync your Ipod from around your house!
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You could stream to Airport Express and your sterio, your iPod being both music source and remote control.


But its allot more power...
 
MacSlut said:
No, CDs play at 1,411 kbps.
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Which is 176K/sec. Capital K refers to KB or KiB, the two variations of kiloBYTE (KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes officially, but most people still use KB for either/both numbering systems [hence hard drive capacity quarrels]), as opposed to k/sec which refers to kb, or kiloBIT.
 
dogfood1 is right

The french article clearly states that Motorola will bring out a product wich enables any iPod to stream music via Bluetooth to their car stereo... nothing less, nothing more.

A little bluetooth transmitter on the ipod, can by very tiny (thinking of the Bleutooth dongle I used before) and a receiver on your car stereo, hopefully a cassette with a little antenna sticking out!

And I'll have 2 please!
 
as usual i though "YEY!!!11 w00t!" but 4 seconds later i remember the speed at which Bluetooth runs at, hell BT2 isnt all that blisteringly fast. but i dont sync my entire iPod, i just copy over the occasional album/song.

so im undecided. wireless music transfer=awesome. speed=hmmm...

if they put this into these new rumored colour-screened iPod Minis then hell im buying one :)
 
Headphones

I've seen a few threads on this topic, as people have been speculating and dreaming of bluetooth iPods for a while now.

Its awesome to see some front page action on it, and it feels good to be a proud owner of the first Bluetooth 2.0 computer.

But I keep wondering the same thing...
If a pair of wireless earbuds are developed for the iPod, doesn't that mean that now we are also powering them separately?

Is everyone willing to replace batteries, or somehow charge another device? Personally, its already quite frustrating plugging in my cell phone, iPod, and laptop every night, but what about worrying about my headphones too? Or worse, having to replace the batteries?

I don't know, both of those options don't sound very convenient to me at all, especially if my earbuds die when I'm out and about and I can't get to my music...

Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
maybe not

dongmin said:
As you say, this solution lets the car interface with different ipod models with different dock connectors. Also, this opens the possibility for other devices, like your BT2.0-equipped PowerBook, to stream audio to your car stereo. So now, your kids can watch DVDs on your PB and listen to it over the car stereo.
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There is probably some latency in streaming through BT so that the sound would be lagging the video. If the DVD player had an adjustable control to let the video lag the audio then this would work nicely.
 
Did the original source said anything about Bluetooth? He could have just been talking about FM rebroadcasts which I believe are currently illegal in many parts of Europe (radio frequency/broadcast restrictions). However, I seem to recall a report from England just a few weeks ago that the FM wireless method of rebroadcasting was going to be made legal via a new restriction or law in the UK. So, this rumor may be related to that change in the law (perhaps in the entire EU).
 
SAukland said:
Is everyone willing to replace batteries, or somehow change another device? Personally, its already quite frustrating plugging in my cell phone, iPod, and laptop every night, but what about worrying about my headphones too? Or worse, having to replace the batteries?

I don't know, both of those options don't sound very convenient to me at all, especially if my earbuds die when I'm out and about and I can't get to my music...
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True enough. Even with rechargeable batteries you need to take them out of the headphones and recharge them. Some existing wireless headphones have built in connections such that when you get home and you put then on their stand/holder they automatically start charging.

I suspect the batteries in the head phones would last quite a while. My Bose noise canceling headphones use two AAA NiMH batteries. This says that powering headphones is not a big challenge. According to what I can find on line powering BT is not a big issue either. Your headphone batteries should easily outlast the iPod battery.

After googling around for a while I am of the opinion that it would be better to simply build in an 802.11 type interface rather than BlueTooth. WiFi would have all the bandwidth you need for headphones or syncing, the security aspect is already settled and you could run it in a low power version so that it would not be a big battery drain.

One important issue - wireless devices are not allowed to be used on airplanes. However, it seems that WiFi might be allowed soon.
 
Interesting...

“The motivation behind 2.0 + EDR was to improve existing usage scenarios which require increased data throughput, like streaming CD-quality audio, digital image transfer and laser printing,” said Dr. Michael Foley, executive director of the Bluetooth SIG.

This from bluetooth.com
 
matticus008 said:
Which is 176K/sec. Capital K refers to KB or KiB, the two variations of kiloBYTE (KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes officially, but most people still use KB for either/both numbering systems [hence hard drive capacity quarrels]), as opposed to k/sec which refers to kb, or kiloBIT.
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You know I do know how to multiply and divide by 8. I was responding to the post that CDs play at "150K", which they in fact do not. Capacity is usually referenced in bytes, and bandwidth in bits, BITrates are pretty much usually referenced in BITS that's why it's called BITrates...as opposed to BYTErates.

In any case, CDs do not play at 150K/s or for those who have a hard time multiplying by 8, they do not play at 1200k/s.

CDs play at 1411k/s which is 176.375 K/s...yet another example of why we don't use bytes for bitrates.

BTW: the 150K/s misconception comes from the fact that 1X CD drives are considered to be 150K/s. You'll note that this is just short of what is needed for streaming and Audio CD digitally to your computer, and yet if you'll remember 1X CD drives could play Audio CDs. The catch however was that they could not play through the SCSI or IDE cable to the computer, they had to play audio out either directly to audio ports (headphone/speakers) or to sound input on the computer. The 1X referred to the data speed of the drive. Audio was faster because it didn't have to be as precise/bit errors weren't fatal.

More trivia...

PCs with their hopless devotion to legacy at all costs, to this day still have software that will allow "ripping" of audio from 1X CD drives. Most CD ripping software on the PC won't stop a person from setting it up to record the audio output from the CD drive as opposed to ripping the files digitally. Often the result will be that it won't work, or it will be painfully slow (well, realtime anyway), but if the PC user is stupid enough to do it this way (hell they did buy a PC afterall) they will get far inferior audio files from the CDs. If you spent much time on P2Ps in the late 90s, you definitely would've noticed this (if you knew what to listen for).
 
And also finally a remote for Airport Express and the inevitable Mac mini media center add on.
 
It would be great to have BT enabled iPods.. BT is plenty fast enough to stream music.

However, Bluetooth headphones are bloody expensive at the moment. Though BT headsets are cheap ( i.e., cell phones) - if you don't mind one ear audio.

I hope this rumour is correct. Give iPod an edge of the competition. Keep competitive.
 
Could this kind of thing be tweaked so the iPod could control iTunes music which could then play through airport express to a home stereo? Or how about using the iPod as a remote for presentations or something like that. Wires do really clutter things up it would be nice to see more and more of them disappearing.
 
MacSlut said:
*SNIP*...but if the PC user is stupid enough to do it this way (hell they did buy a PC afterall)...
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You know, I'm a big fan of Apple and Macs. I own a Powerbook G4, Mac Mini, and 4th Gen iPod. However, I'm also a proud owner of a PC. I understand that you're kidding (perhaps you're not, it's tough to tell sometimes) however I resent it when people like you continually call PC/Windows users "stupid." It's completely insulting and ultimately gives Mac fans (which I am a part of) a really bad face.

Macs and PCs have their place, and both (yes, I said BOTH) have their own sets of issues and advantages. Calling people "stupid" because they have a certain type of hardware is just silly.

Granted, you were probably joking, but it does get tiresome reading the same lame rants again and again.

w00master
 
BillHarrison said:
Plus syncing wirelessly is kinda nifty too. Come on apple, add a bigger color screen, and some pda functions, and this pocket pc can go out the window!

Bill
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Right... because iPods currently aren't selling well?
 
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