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Bluetooth iPods Soon?
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rye9 said:
I agree. For those of us who actually care about sound quality, wired headphones are the only way (I own the Shure e5's myself and they make all the time I spend on the subway a lot easier). Not only are there sound quality issues arising from bandwidth limitations of Bluetooth technology itself, but there are no Bluetooth headphones with high quality drivers available anyway.
For transferring music Bluetooth is far too slow. For playback through a car stereo system it would require the use of a receiver to plug into the stereo (unless you have a Tomtom 700, but the speaker in there isn’t meant for music playback), which doesn't seem any easier than buying a transmitter for the iPod (although Aux input is still the best for those lucky enough to have it on their car stereos).
I use Bluetooth frequently with my phone and it is not the most reliable technology. It is most useful for mono headsets, small data transfers (contact syncing, not 10GB of music), and for wireless mice, keyboards, etc
stefan15 said:
There aren't any *solidly confirmed* health risks for cell phone exposure, let alone bluetooth use. There are only a handful of studies that suggest that even low levels of non-ionizing RF may, if they are focused in a small area (i.e., by a cell phone antenna), cause biological effects. The jury is still out.
That said, the bluetooth signal is weaker than the cellphone signal, so I would assume there is less risk (whatever the actual level of risk is).
I noticed the article mentioned downloading or something from other BT iPods, isnt that just getting free music?
I like the sound of the full screen iPod Av coming soon with Bluetooth built in. Perhaps even Airport Express AV with video out which will not only allow streaming of content from your Airport enabled Mac, but through Bluetooth from your iPod. Nah, that would be too slow.
Still, I would like an Airport Express with video out and Bluetooth Mighty Mouse to be announced soon. Both top of my buy lists for the time being.
Still, I would like an Airport Express with video out and Bluetooth Mighty Mouse to be announced soon. Both top of my buy lists for the time being.
Reminds me of Julius Caesar
This reminds me of when everybody was cheering on Julius Caesar, and he just sat there and didn't stand out of disrespect.
DTphonehome said:
This reminds me of when everybody was cheering on Julius Caesar, and he just sat there and didn't stand out of disrespect.
thejadedmonkey said:
Assume that the base model will be between US$999 and $1299, with the higher level model (if there is one) at $1299 to $1499.
Or play the song for 5 times before you have to pay or something like that at least. I think that would be really useful...and tie you even more into the whole iPod ecosystem.rye9 said:
Wireless syncing??
been discussed to death. Maybe good to update the song counts and ratings but to transfer songs it would be painful (i find it painful to update via usb 2.0) and a waste of battery, if it is near enough to the computer to sync via bluetooth just plug the thing in.
wireless headphones just another thing to forget to charge. I often forget to charge the ipod but it usually just hangs in there to and from uni but i would get so pissed off with wireless headphones. Adds to the costs and reduces the sound quality, great
Bluetoothing from other ipods
this would be to sample the music and get a taste. But why dont you just talk to the person. case in point:
oh what you listening to
just alexisonfire -accidents pretty tight canadian band
oh really never heard.
hear check them out they are pretty cool.
been discussed to death. Maybe good to update the song counts and ratings but to transfer songs it would be painful (i find it painful to update via usb 2.0) and a waste of battery, if it is near enough to the computer to sync via bluetooth just plug the thing in.
wireless headphones just another thing to forget to charge. I often forget to charge the ipod but it usually just hangs in there to and from uni but i would get so pissed off with wireless headphones. Adds to the costs and reduces the sound quality, great
Bluetoothing from other ipods
this would be to sample the music and get a taste. But why dont you just talk to the person. case in point:
oh what you listening to
just alexisonfire -accidents pretty tight canadian band
oh really never heard.
hear check them out they are pretty cool.
We've had video iPod rumors for months and still none.. lets not get caught up ina BT iPod now. I still think the current one (5G) is perfect... all it needs is a better battery and maybe built in radio... I thinking watching videos on a small screen is ridiculous... forget the true video iPod... its just gonna strain your eyes... besides I dont know too many people who would be able to stare at a screen for as long as people listen to music with a normal iPod.
Why all the comments about "after the anniversary" "quiet anniversary" I think those who follow Apple closely were all expecting the announcements to come closer to the 30th an to the 1st.
I don't buy it. In my experience bluetooth hasn't been that great for audio streaming. Maybe I have just had some bad experiences though.Macrumors said:
Would be cool, and BT headphones would ROCK if they had the same quilty sound as the current ones(Which is not to great!) and NO BIGGER headphones
BT headphones would suck.
Not only will you have to always be charging the damn thing, you can lose them. I like the wired headphone because I can wrap it around my iPod. Now, I'll have to make sure I don't lose it.
Give me a REAL video iPod, with Bluetooth mainly for updating songs. I don't care about BT headphones unless they do it very very well.
A bluetooth iPod would be sweet!
Despite the criticism of bluetooth in terms of sound quality and syncing, I think there are 3 very useful applications for bluetooth in the iPod.
First, most of us aren't audiophiles and there are certain situations where even the best set of headphones would be overkill. One of those places is the gym. Even with headphones on, there's interference from all the noise in the gym, so even if sound quality isn't great, average sound quality would be good enough and well worth not having wires getting in the way all the time.
Second, bluetooth would be useful for remote applications whether it be to control FrontRow or as an Airport Express remote. I use Salling Clicker with my Treo and it's great for controlling apps on my Mini that's hooked up to my LCD TV.
Third, if Apple does come out with a touchscreen video iPod and at a minimum opens up the platform for developers, Bluetooth would be a great way to get internet connectivity to the iPod. If I recall correctly, EVDO has transmissions speeds of about 500-700Kbps and Bluetooth is somewhere around 730Kbps. My Sprint EVDO service is awesome! I'd love to be able to establish an internet connection through my phone to do light web browsing, run Dashboard widgets, send SMS text messages, etc.
I've always felt if Sony had opened up the PSP for more third party development and provided information to allow the construction of keyboards and other peripherals, the PSP I think would dominate over the DS. I think Apple would be extremely smart to encourage people to write apps for the iPod and I would hope they'd think about providing an SDK that works with XCode. I'd also like to see them clean up the PIM apps that are already on the iPod and add mobile versions of Safari, Mail, and Dashboard. I think the hardware on the iPod is more than powerful enough to run applications such as these.
Despite the criticism of bluetooth in terms of sound quality and syncing, I think there are 3 very useful applications for bluetooth in the iPod.
First, most of us aren't audiophiles and there are certain situations where even the best set of headphones would be overkill. One of those places is the gym. Even with headphones on, there's interference from all the noise in the gym, so even if sound quality isn't great, average sound quality would be good enough and well worth not having wires getting in the way all the time.
Second, bluetooth would be useful for remote applications whether it be to control FrontRow or as an Airport Express remote. I use Salling Clicker with my Treo and it's great for controlling apps on my Mini that's hooked up to my LCD TV.
Third, if Apple does come out with a touchscreen video iPod and at a minimum opens up the platform for developers, Bluetooth would be a great way to get internet connectivity to the iPod. If I recall correctly, EVDO has transmissions speeds of about 500-700Kbps and Bluetooth is somewhere around 730Kbps. My Sprint EVDO service is awesome! I'd love to be able to establish an internet connection through my phone to do light web browsing, run Dashboard widgets, send SMS text messages, etc.
I've always felt if Sony had opened up the PSP for more third party development and provided information to allow the construction of keyboards and other peripherals, the PSP I think would dominate over the DS. I think Apple would be extremely smart to encourage people to write apps for the iPod and I would hope they'd think about providing an SDK that works with XCode. I'd also like to see them clean up the PIM apps that are already on the iPod and add mobile versions of Safari, Mail, and Dashboard. I think the hardware on the iPod is more than powerful enough to run applications such as these.
and i care
True. However, some people 'actually care about sound quality' still might not be too miffed with a bluetooth set for portability. It is not as if those shure's will sound that good without an amp anyway, especially though they are sealed, on the underground. It is not as if i really care about quality at the same way at home with my dt-880 coming from all optical connections high-end headphone amp etc, but have no idea how to tell simbiliance from dissonance. People can care even if they do not listen to music through headphones that cost 30% more than others that have similar quality (westone).
isn't technology just a bummer? i can't get over all these advances either. it is such a waste, i think i will just wank all over new items that come out because... it is what to do, but i will listen to dedicated wired ipod with shure headphones while doing it.
i am surprised it is that useful from reading the rest of your thesis here.
rdbishop said:
True. However, some people 'actually care about sound quality' still might not be too miffed with a bluetooth set for portability. It is not as if those shure's will sound that good without an amp anyway, especially though they are sealed, on the underground. It is not as if i really care about quality at the same way at home with my dt-880 coming from all optical connections high-end headphone amp etc, but have no idea how to tell simbiliance from dissonance. People can care even if they do not listen to music through headphones that cost 30% more than others that have similar quality (westone).
rdbishop said:
isn't technology just a bummer? i can't get over all these advances either. it is such a waste, i think i will just wank all over new items that come out because... it is what to do, but i will listen to dedicated wired ipod with shure headphones while doing it.
rdbishop said:
i am surprised it is that useful from reading the rest of your thesis here.
Phat_Pat said:
So? that means 10 million will be sold to people who cant use the bluetooth option but make a point of saying they have a blue tooth ipod.
Its all about the fashion not the practicality.
Macrumors said:
Yeah yeah and a video iPod will never exist, blah blah blah...
But really though, I wonder if BlueTooth to car speakers could become a real option for cars without BlueTooth preinstalled in it already, which is...oh, say just about every car. Some form of adaptor? If it could become an easy, cheap option, that would be unbelievably happy!! FM transmitters suck !@#$%!@ (currently using a tape adapter)
Macrumors said:
Ummm, maybe its just me, but when did Apple become concerned about sound quality... let alone video or manufacturing quality?
128 kbps audio, 320x240 crippled video, and enough first gen hardware nightmares to keep the experienced at bay till revision B.
I thought the order of operations at Apple went:
Profitability
Look
Simplicity
With a number of Macs now shipping with BlueTooth 2.0, and improved battery life, I'd almost say it was a given that the iPod be given a wireless look. Dunno if the functionality will be there, but damn, it will look nice.
Bonjour Bluetooth!
Personally I'm in the market for any type of update, some B****** nicked my fully loaded 3G 40Gb pod at the weekend (I'm not too happy to say the least) but checking ebay seems it wasn't worth that much!
I don't know how crazy it would be sharing music via BT considering the millions of ipods about with their milions of lists (how would you know whose music you are sharing aside from the playlist name?) and security wise BT jacking, would that just be a security nightmare waiting to happen - not so much for music for for personal data stored on disk?
Personally I'm in the market for any type of update, some B****** nicked my fully loaded 3G 40Gb pod at the weekend (I'm not too happy to say the least) but checking ebay seems it wasn't worth that much!
I don't know how crazy it would be sharing music via BT considering the millions of ipods about with their milions of lists (how would you know whose music you are sharing aside from the playlist name?) and security wise BT jacking, would that just be a security nightmare waiting to happen - not so much for music for for personal data stored on disk?
AAAACK!!!
I JUST bought a brand new Nano and Logitech's bluetooth headphones. We'll see. Maybe it will be worth it.
I JUST bought a brand new Nano and Logitech's bluetooth headphones. We'll see. Maybe it will be worth it.