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Sure, but having a professional term for it does not make it any more rational in cases like this, where it is not about tracing back whether a piece of art is an original or similar. Here people (some of them) are irrationally obsessed with obtaining mass-produced items of a certain provenance, even though there are thousands like it that only differ in having a different ownership history. So I would agree with H2SO4's assessment, but I am not bothered by this story - I have made my share of irrational purchases myself. :)
Me too I suppose but I often wonder why people put more importance on others than they do their nearest and dearest. Take the royal family. People get more offended if you abuse the queen than a member of their own family. What's that about??
 
Barely models to choose from? There's currently 18 chassis' offered by BMW and 27 by Mercedes (if sedan vs coupe vs convertible etc are considered different - they often are internally). Not to say your sales fact is wrong, I personally don't know.

I did say comparatively. GM has multiple subsidiaries (Chevy, GMC, Cadillac, Buick) that make a dozen models with each model having a dozen makes. That ONE company has more then Mercedes/BMW combined. Add Ford (which also makes Lincoln, Aston Martin, and others) and Chrysler (which makes the Dodge, Jeep, and other brands) and you’ll realize the European auto segment in the US is minuscule.
 
Why, who cares? I don't understand why something is valued more because of who owned it. I mean I can see something like notes or designs hand written by Steve Jobs before the iPod or iPhone came out as this is capturing his "genius" in history, but someone dumping near 1/2 million into one of numerous cars he drove to work is ridiculous.
 
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I'm into US domestic cars, but the Z8 is gorgeous! I'm also a big fan of the 'clown shoe' M Coupe.
 
someone dumping near 1/2 million into one of numerous cars he drove to work is ridiculous.
Precisely. I'd totally see buying Stephen King's favorite typewriter or one of Clapton's guitars... but why would I want their car if that's not at all their claim to fame?
 
Ah the StarTac... I remember this hack where you could type a code on the keypad and it would let you listen to random live phone calls that were within its cell range. Did anyone else ever tried it?
 
I can't imagine that anyone would buy this car solely as a means of conveyance. They're probably interested in driving it because Steve Jobs owned it or, more likely, because they think it'll appreciate in value because of that connection. Like it or not, even otherwise mundane items are often more valuable when they've been used or possessed by famous or infamous people.
Well some people have money to burn. I don’t get why it matters that Steve owned the car. Bragging rights? Possibly paying almost double for it, seems idiotic but people can do whatever they want with their money I guess.
 
a radical scientist will buy the car, strip it down looking for any bit of Jobs left in the car, and sort of DNA and begin the cloning process of Steve. In 10 years there will be 6 clones of him running around the world, searching out bad design and take over the world.....
 
Everybody see's and values different things. What you find not a "Big deal", might be to someone else.
Everybody see's and values different things. What you find not a "Big deal", might be to someone else.
highest bidder will be a middle eastern person and you may never see it agian, thats why its not a big deal, unless u have 400 grand to shed
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Can you imagine driving around in a Car driven and owned by Steve Jobs? What a story piece that would be.
Honestly just put it on display.
 
My outlook is different than yours. Personally, I'm a car guy and always have been. And I usually like to drive around in something that most may not have or is more rare if you will. And this would be a interesting piece at a car show with some history behind it. A great conversational piece if anything, not to mention, I never see Z8's anywhere.

That's OK, I'm a car guy too but I couldn't care less whose butt was in the seat before mine. I'd gladly drive the Z8 because it's a cool car, but I wouldn't pay more for one because Jobs owned it briefly.

Forgive me, I am a nerd. Again, I'm sure with the same mods on an M235i, I would get shown up, but for a 17 year old car, I wouldn't be so dismissive of an old cars abilities. I would also argue I get a lot more feel with my car, but the experience is subjective. The only car I love more than E46 is the E92, and I'm not sure if it's just because of the motor. The suspension is definitely more advanced.

E46 was/is a great car. I considered an E46 M3 a while back but ended up in an E93 M3 instead.

As far as I know, the S85 (E60 V10), the S54 (E46 I6), and the S65 (E92 V8) all loved to blow themselves to smithereens on stock rod bearings.

Yes, I'm constantly worried about the rod bearings on my S54. I only drive the car a few thousand miles per year and have been debating if I should just get them replaced now or wait.
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Because American cars are rubbish. Just look at the new Ford Mustang as it has a 2 star safety rating which is the worst in the western world.

It's not quite as simple as that. The same car gets five stars in the US NHTSA test, which is different than the European NCAP testing program. It would be easy to just dismiss the US testing as inadequate, but it actually is harder to pass when it comes to rollover and pedestrian injuries.

I believe the US and European agencies are trying to work together to get the testing more similar to make it easier to sell cars to each other.
 
Why, who cares? I don't understand why something is valued more because of who owned it. I mean I can see something like notes or designs hand written by Steve Jobs before the iPod or iPhone came out as this is capturing his "genius" in history, but someone dumping near 1/2 million into one of numerous cars he drove to work is ridiculous.

Well, nobody has done it yet. The estimated prices from auction houses always include a lot of wishful thinking about the level of buyer interest. This is a collectable car, but according to Kelley Blue Book, its value is under $150k. It's difficult to see how the provenance makes this one worth more than twice as much.
 
highest bidder will be a middle eastern person and you may never see it agian, thats why its not a big deal, unless u have 400 grand to shed
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Honestly just put it on display.
cheaper and everybody wins put it on display unless apple needs cash? lol
 
I did say comparatively. GM has multiple subsidiaries (Chevy, GMC, Cadillac, Buick) that make a dozen models with each model having a dozen makes. That ONE company has more then Mercedes/BMW combined. Add Ford (which also makes Lincoln, Aston Martin, and others) and Chrysler (which makes the Dodge, Jeep, and other brands) and you’ll realize the European auto segment in the US is minuscule.
Gotcha, that makes more sense. Took what you were saying more literally :). As a 20yo, I think the new Lincoln's are kind of cool and look like nice cars, but they'll depreciate hard and I can't understand why they'd make such a high end car and leave it FWD? Maybe people don't care.

Why, who cares? I don't understand why something is valued more because of who owned it. I mean I can see something like notes or designs hand written by Steve Jobs before the iPod or iPhone came out as this is capturing his "genius" in history, but someone dumping near 1/2 million into one of numerous cars he drove to work is ridiculous.
There comes a point for some people where the story behind the object is worth more than the object itself. I have a number of clients like this.

E46 was/is a great car. I considered an E46 M3 a while back but ended up in an E93 M3 instead.


Yes, I'm constantly worried about the rod bearings on my S54. I only drive the car a few thousand miles per year and have been debating if I should just get them replaced now or wait.
Definitely didn't go wrong with E93. I prefer the coupe but must be great on weekends. You have an S54 as well? What chassis? If not E46, Z4M?
 
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Incredibly creepy to think that somebody would buy a car then register a custom plate in the previous owner's name. I wonder if they did it while Jobs was still alive, for maximum obsessive stalker-fan effect.
 
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Definitely didn't go wrong with E93. I prefer the coupe but must be great on weekends. You have an S54 as well? What chassis? If not E46, Z4M?

Whoops, that 'S54' is a typo that should have said 'S65', referring to the V8 in my E93.

Truth be told, I'd prefer the E92 coupe as well but I already have a Porsche 996 coupe and getting the convertible M3 was the only way to sneak another sports car past my wife. :)
 
I have always wondered why Europeans love Levis jeans... At least the ones I know.

Wait a minute... Don't European car makers build many of their cars here?

Vehicle U.S. April 2017 YTD Sales U.S. April 2017 YTD Production
Mercedes-Benz C-Class – Vance, Alabama 27,098 28,455
Volkswagen Passat – Chattanooga, Tennessee 24,415 25,578
Mercedes-Benz GLE-Class – Vance, Alabama 17,374 59,322
BMW X3 – Spartanburg, South Carolina 16,773 50,997
BMW X5 – Spartanburg, South Carolina 15,472 56,290
Mercedes-Benz GLS-Class – Vance, Alabama 10,006 18,876
BMW X6 – Spartanburg, South Carolina 2,089 13,151
BMW X4 – Spartanburg, South Carolina 1,179 16,979
Volkswagen Atlas – Chattanooga, Tennessee — 11,871
Total 114,406 281,519

Yes to sell them locally. Your point doesn’t make any sense
 
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