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Honestly, all I would really want in the S8 would be a 3-5 day battery life, like the FitBit (5-7 days) or the Galaxy Watches (3-5 days). It would allow me to have weekend trips (2 nights) without taking my charger.
 
Maybe they should consider 2 year releases at this point. These yearly updates are pointless.
Or, hear me out, people could not upgrade every year. I know that's unthinkable but it might just be an option. People who want to upgrade or purchase or replace a lost/damaged watch then would have an option without waiting another year or buying 'older' technology.
 
The one senseor I'd really love is a body hydration sensor. You can get them so the technology exists. It's something I seem to struggle with with working from home and I'd love to see apples take on it. Building it natively into Health would be genuinely useful for me. Possibly alone in this.
 
No new health sensor for a second year would be a bummer, given that body temperature is a feature that Apple Watch competitors have implemented recently. Other than a new SoC, I can't think of anything major that can happen to the S8 (maybe a longer battery life, but Apple seems to have a hard time to give anything over 18h battery life)
That's interesting: which competitors? If others can implement it then Apple surely can too. The technology is there. As others have noted, the S7 was an underwhelming update - if there is no new health metric in the S8 it's going to be quite hard to muster much interest
 
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The one senseor I'd really love is a body hydration sensor. You can get them so the technology exists. It's something I seem to struggle with with working from home and I'd love to see apples take on it. Building it natively into Health would be genuinely useful for me. Possibly alone in this.
Interesting idea
 
Forehead thermometers are often dismissed as probably the least satisfactory technological body temperature measurement technique. I hope they avoid them.
A non-contact thermometer is a way to take someone’s temperature without touching them. Non- contact infrared thermometers (NCIT) are as accurate as contact thermometers and are low cost. Training is easier and the thermometers are easier to use and do not need as much work to set them correctly.

Source: https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/24857/cdc_24857_DS1.pdf

Research has shown that, when used correctly, infrared or no-contact thermometers are just as accurate as oral or rectal thermometers.

Source: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/are-infrared-thermometers-accurate/

Conclusions: The non-contact infrared thermometer is a reliable, comfortable and accurate option for measurement of temperature and is very useful for the screening of fever in the paediatric population.

Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21651612/
 
Apple is rumored to be working on a method for non-invasively monitoring blood glucose levels using optical sensors as well, potentially offering sufferers of diabetes a way to manage their condition that would be much easier, as it wouldn't require puncturing the skin.

2 weeks ago my wife (aged 30) was diagnosed T1DM that requires intense glucose monitoring, we've been using FreeStyle Libre and it works just fine. That being said, glucose monitoring from Apple Watch can be a game changer considering the non-invasive and (probably) continuous nature, not to mention it can be way more affordable (as opposed to the $1,000 / year for the cost of Libre sensors).
 
A non-contact thermometer is a way to take someone’s temperature without touching them. Non- contact infrared thermometers (NCIT) are as accurate as contact thermometers and are low cost. Training is easier and the thermometers are easier to use and do not need as much work to set them correctly.

Source: https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/24857/cdc_24857_DS1.pdf

Research has shown that, when used correctly, infrared or no-contact thermometers are just as accurate as oral or rectal thermometers.

Source: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/are-infrared-thermometers-accurate/

Conclusions: The non-contact infrared thermometer is a reliable, comfortable and accurate option for measurement of temperature and is very useful for the screening of fever in the paediatric population.

Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21651612/

I suspect some of the FDA's advice on use of NCITs will not be readily and reliably achieved if implemented as a faceid camera-based system:

  • Draft-free space
  • Out of direct sun and not near radiant heat sources
  • Moderate range of environmental temperature and humidity
  • Thermometer in environment for 10-30 minutes before use
  • Clean skin
  • No head covers having been worn
  • Strictly perpendicular to forehead
  • Strict distance requirements
  • Sensing area not touched
 
A non-contact thermometer is a way to take someone’s temperature without touching them. Non- contact infrared thermometers (NCIT) are as accurate as contact thermometers and are low cost. Training is easier and the thermometers are easier to use and do not need as much work to set them correctly.

Source: https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/24857/cdc_24857_DS1.pdf

Research has shown that, when used correctly, infrared or no-contact thermometers are just as accurate as oral or rectal thermometers.

Source: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/are-infrared-thermometers-accurate/

Conclusions: The non-contact infrared thermometer is a reliable, comfortable and accurate option for measurement of temperature and is very useful for the screening of fever in the paediatric population.

Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21651612/
It is, but wouldn't necessarily be so with a watch. The watch IS touching and creates some heat in itself which could skew results. That may negate the "when used correctly".
 
It is, but wouldn't necessarily be so with a watch. The watch IS touching and creates some heat in itself which could skew results. That may negate the "when used correctly".
The idea I posted was to use an infrared sensor inside the iPhone's Face ID sensor complex.
 
The idea I posted was to use an infrared sensor inside the iPhone's Face ID sensor complex.
To which the FDA advice would seem to apply. Of course, they could include orientation and distance detection and other measures to ensure it only operates within its design envelope.
 
I’m still using a series 4. I imagine I’ll be skipping the 8 and going to 9. I do an offset of years for iPhone and Apple Watch.
 
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2 weeks ago my wife (aged 30) was diagnosed T1DM that requires intense glucose monitoring, we've been using FreeStyle Libre and it works just fine. That being said, glucose monitoring from Apple Watch can be a game changer considering the non-invasive and (probably) continuous nature, not to mention it can be way more affordable (as opposed to the $1,000 / year for the cost of Libre sensors).
Don’t hold your breath. It’s not coming for years.
 
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I don’t typically get all the excited about new watch features. A lot of it lately feels like things they just threw in so they could update the line.

That said, glucose monitoring would be a game changer for millions of people - including my wife. I’d love to see Apple surprise us with a release that’s closer.
 
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First it wouldn't be a 'body temperature' that the sensor was sensing. You would know how cold your arm is, not how warm your body is. And why have it at all to begin with. The use of IR temperature sensors to 'test' people if they are sick with Covid is rather pointless. Most people naturally run colder than what is considered 'normal', so for them, hitting normal would be running a fever. Plus checking exposed areas are likely to be cooler depending on what they were wearing, etc.

I get the 'need for data', but people have to realize what it is actually measuring. A temp probe/sensor in the AW would be nearly a pointless joke of highly questionable value. Raynaud's disease would invalidate the whole thing. (I worked with a woman that had it very bad, and often wore complete winter gear in the middle of summer because the anemic AC system in the building we worked in was making her too cold. Her hands felt like she had been making snowballs all day! So a Raynaud's victim would make the sensor useless)
 
Body Temperature sensor? That's hot. ;)

I still see no compelling reason to upgrade from my Apple Watch 4. The new features since then are nice to haves, but not must haves. I don't use anywhere near all the memory on my 4, and it still holds a decent charge. The o2 sensor would be nice but it's not making me rush to the Apple store today and buy one.

The best features (ECG, fall detection, Apple Pay) are all ready there. And, it also still tells time pretty well. Don't get me wrong, I still think that dollars to doughnuts my Apple watch is some of the best tech money I ever spent. It's one of the few things I won't leave home without. It's worth every penny I spent on it.

But I think we're reaching the point we did with the phones where the changes will be incremental, and not worthy of "keynote" events. I upgraded to the 12P when it came out primarily for 5G, which until now has been a disappointment on VZW. Hopefully that changes on the 19th. I got the 13 PM to get the better camera and the bigger screen, which is what I really wanted. But the changes are kinda small compared to where they were just 5 years ago.

I'll be holding off on the watch upgrade for a while I suppose....
 
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So no body temperature sensor, then what will this watch even have?? Will it be another lackluster launch like the 7?
They will have to buy up a medical research lab and start inventing diseases to put in a sensor to monitor. It's part of the 'end-to-end control of everything' plan.
 
I have a SB SS S4 and was planning to upgrade with the S8, but the lack of a SB SS option and no sensor updates might have me continue to rock my S4.
 
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If they just put in glucose monitoring I would purchase day 0. Taking your own temperature is easy.
 
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