Gates used to give privately until Ted Tuner made an ass of himself an now everyone expects the wealthy to only give publicly. Do you actually know how much money Steve gives to charitable causes?
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Bono Defends Steve Jobs Against Criticism Over Lack of Public Philanthropy
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Gates used to give privately until Ted Tuner made an ass of himself an now everyone expects the wealthy to only give publicly. Do you actually know how much money Steve gives to charitable causes?
Well said that man!
The modern age has no principles so this message is often lost. It's not charity when you give what you can easily afford.
Shut up Bono
Considering the RED campaign only donates about 10% of all they money it collects he is the worse defender of philanthropy. Bono wouldn't know philanthropy if it hit him on the head... His talk on TED is one of the most painful to listen to - so much so I would much rather read Jane Austin than do that again.
Considering the RED campaign only donates about 10% of all they money it collects he is the worse defender of philanthropy. Bono wouldn't know philanthropy if it hit him on the head... His talk on TED is one of the most painful to listen to - so much so I would much rather read Jane Austin than do that again.
Nope, it's got nothing to do with fortune. We all started at around the same level thousands of years ago. Yet, some moved forward technologically and culturally, while others figured dancing half-naked with spear around camp fire is good enough. Chances are if they failed to create any sort of meaningful advanced society in last 10,000 years, they never will. Nobody donated any money to the current developed world i.e. Europe, USA, Canada, Japan, etc. to get them more educated or well fed, so you kid yourself if you think throwing money at bad problem solves anything. It'll just create even richer and more corrupt elite and the rest will continue to live in the stone age.
You've *repeatedly* made the claim that he *abused* the system to get the liver, and that he 'stole' the liver from someone else. You don't have any evidence to support it, and when those claims were investigated, they were proven baseless.
If I have a car, and can get to the hospital in time, does that mean I've 'abused' the system by taking advantage of my resources when compared to the next-best surgical candidate who couldn't get there in time because he had to take the bus, or was out of town visiting his family at the time?
How about if I have the resource advantage of living in a crappy basement apartment across the street from the hospital rather than 3 hours away in a 10 million dollar mansion? Is that 'abusing the system', too? After all, I've got an advantage.
Or, what if I'm actually *in* the hospital when the liver becomes available? would *that* be 'abusing the system'?
What if I'm just a better match than the next guy on the list? That's an advantage, too!
In the way "he" designed the iOS platform, for one. That said, "he" may not be wrong in doing so, but that "he" has done so is a fact.
There are billions of people out there working hard everyday. Some people work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year but only make less then $40,000 a year. Do these people not work hard?
How does Steve Jobs work hard to deserve 8 billion dollars while the poor person down the street who can't even feed his family but works hard is any different.
What Steve has IS a fortune. How does one person 'work hard' to obtain 8 billion dollars. I work hard. I work everyday long hours. I have gone to school multiple times to get a better education. Do I not work hard because I haven't grossed more than 60,000 a year? Do I work any less then Steve Jobs although he has grossed 8 billion?
Why don't you think outside the box, not everyone lives in a developed country some people believe it or not are born in to poverty stricken regions of Africa with no food or running water, high infant mortality rates, no education and no chance of getting a job. Please fly over there from your comfy seat and tell these people to get of their asses and get a job!
Certainly here in the UK most of the charities seems to be bailing out people who ****ed up their lives
Alcoholics, drug addicts, smokers, prisoners, single parents who have kids they can't afford, all of those seem to have telethons or people shaking tins in your face in the Uk, I have no time or empathy with those that had choices in life and made a **** up of their lives.
Most of the poor are poor because they didn't study or they got into gangs or got into drugs or alcohol, not my problem to be blunt, no one forced them to get into the situation they got themselves into, you make your bed in life lie in it, there are a lot of AIDS charities in the UK, sure some people got AIDS through **** luck like a dodgy blood transfusion but the majority got it because of their lifestyle, no one forced them to shove their todger in someone's rectum without a condom why should they expect money from me ?
I help those that can't help themselves, animals
Thank you.
It's really sad how some of these people only look at their iThingy and wonder what else they would have done with those countless hours in their parents' basement without Steve to tell them how to listen to their music or watch their movies or browse the internet.
I am starting to think the whole "it just works" is seriously going to backfire because it has actually made mainstream the idea that if you're stupid, it's okay, just buy one of our products. And now you're cool too, just like all the other people.
These things don't even allow you to look inside of the device, to understand how it works. And most of the people don't care. We wonder why science and mathematics and engineering is dying - it's because we're all so accepting of the lowest hanging fruit on the branch, instead of pushing to excel.
Our society is f'ed with this kind of thinking.
Thanks for making my point....it is not anyone's business. Not even a little bit.
You need to educate yourself. Really. Ever heard of something like the Marshall plan, for example?
As for richer and more corrupt elite, isn't that what we have in the so called developed world anyway?
Non-philanthropic? How do you know that he is non-philanthropic?
Because you didn't read about it in the paper? I know a LOT of people who do good deeds anonymously. It's unfair to call anyone non-philanthropic just because they do it privately.
It was investigated at the time that he never took a liver that was supposed to go to someone else. Sorry I don't have a link. Do you have a link that proves he did?
Yes it is reported that Steve is many of the things that you say. I probably couldn't work for the guy. If I got to know him personally, I might dislike the guy.
All I'm saying here is he MIGHT do a lot of philanthropic deeds anonymously like many people do. I'm not saying that he a saint or anything of the sort. He may be a huge prick. I won't comment as I've never met the man.
First, and foremost, just because you're homosexual doesn't mean you're the only one to get HIV/AIDS. And not that I should have to clarify, but no, I'm not homosexual. I'm just saying that straight people get HIV/AIDS too.
Second, I actually agree with you regarding repeat offenders on the things you listed above.
However, there ARE some people who are legitimately hooked on drugs and just need help getting off. I have no problems giving some people a second chance, as long as they didn't hurt anyone/thing but themselves. Some people need help at some point in their lives. It doesn't ever hurt to help someone once, does it?
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Ridiculous. How are you prevented from using your device freely? I've owned Macs and iPods and iPhones for 25 years now and I've never felt limited. Statements like this are so absurd. If you consider a few rejected app store apps to be taking "control of how you use your device", please share whatever you're smoking! I'd much rather have Apple (or Microsoft or Google...) ensure the apps I buy aren't full of viruses and spyware. How many billions of dollars are WASTED every year on Windows support, eradicating viruses and the countless lost hours of work time that come with it?
The reason Apple is successful is because they understand that the consumer (not the nerd reading blogs like this one) want products that just work.
Lets see what kind of a person Jobs is and the likelihood he gives to charity:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/02/news/companies/elkind_jobs.fortune/index2.htm
At the end of the day though, it is his money to do with what he wishes. But a legacy of giving nothing more to the world than a few fancy gadgets for rich people in the first world and a few tens of thousands of jobs will be quickly forgotten. Say what you want about Gates' and whatever motives he has, but billions into Malaria research, vaccines for the third world and the other endeavours of his foundation are all incredibly worthy causes that have the chance to make a real difference to the lives of millions less fortunate then we are.
Oh and to finish, if I wanted a character reference from somebody to prove I was not a giant c**k then Bono would certainly not be in my top ten.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/02/news/companies/elkind_jobs.fortune/index2.htm
Class act.
At the end of the day though, it is his money to do with what he wishes. But a legacy of giving nothing more to the world than a few fancy gadgets for rich people in the first world and a few tens of thousands of jobs will be quickly forgotten. Say what you want about Gates' and whatever motives he has, but billions into Malaria research, vaccines for the third world and the other endeavours of his foundation are all incredibly worthy causes that have the chance to make a real difference to the lives of millions less fortunate then we are.
Oh and to finish, if I wanted a character reference from somebody to prove I was not a giant c**k then Bono would certainly not be in my top ten.
valid, and recurring, critique. Humanity does not have the luxury of thinking that we can all just sit back and "consume". Especially not given the amount of problems we all will have to face in the (somewhat) near future.
Sorry, no, I was talking about the hypothetical truck driver. The person I was quoting seems to feel it perfectly justified that if it's a competition between a rich productive person (by who's standard?) and a common person like a truck driver, everything else being equal, then the rich person has more right to the resource than the common person. I find that offensive. Also the idea, later in the thread, that the family of the poor truck driver, instead of mourning their own loss, should actually be thankful that the resource went to "the better person" instead of to their loved one. Come on.
If it so happened to be the case that the person who won, via luck of the draw, or even based on which was more statistically likely to survive longest after the operation, was the richer person, then so be it, and one might well draw conclusions after the fact ("thank goodness the more productive person got it"). But the idea that it's OK, even preferred, to give treatment to those who have, at the expense of those who don't, is just wrong to me.
And again, for those coming late, I'm NOT accusing Steve of doing this.
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You not ever feeling limited may have more to do with you as a person being "limited" than anything else (no offense).
Is that a good thing though ? the world is over populated, not enough food to go round so saving the lives of a few million more africans or whatever is going to not solve the food crisis, it will increase famine even more if they are not dying of malaria, it is better if there is a natural cull of the human population of the third world so malaria being one of the biggest killers it is far better to let it take its course in the interests of over population than it is to have more and more people fighting over ever dwindling food supplies.
This is so funny! Did you know that Obama's country has a larger suicide rate than Steve's company?
On "avoiding taxes". Taxes (and all politics) are a game, played by the rules set by some people. If there is a legal way to pay less taxes, one would be a bit stupid not to use it. I know I do my everything to cut down taxes legally.
Maybe that culling can start in the UK so we can have a lot less whingers and bad teeth in this world!