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Lack of evidence is not evidence.

Exactly. Thank you. As a devout believer I say this all the time to nonbelievers. Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. The lack of evidence always suggests some truth.
 
How much are you giving?

How much dough are these bastards writing the articles donating? Probably nothing, the dirty, worthless piss-ants.
 
They were a month out from bankruptcy. I think we can categorize charity as a luxury. As for the second portion of your statement, product(RED) and extreme environmental awareness in their products makes for philanthropy. Accommodations and kind gestures to victims in Japan during the earthquakes mass for philanthropy. Continued support in the iTunes stores to take donations for catastrophes is evidence of philanthropy.

You're cherry-picking. That does not prove Steve Jobs is a charitable man.
 
Keep telling yourself that. You pretend to know somebody just by reading about him in the news.

Only the more gullible, less-intelligent people think that a company telling them what they should and shouldn't do on their PC believe that Jobs and Apple are good.

I should have the option to use Flash if I choose. I should be able to mod my product how I want. I should have the option to download whatever is put into the App Store. If I wanted someone censuring what I put on my device, I'd move to China, Iran, North Korea... etc.

Steve Jobs may have pushed the envelope on design and usability, but he reversed the idea of free-thinking and creativity. :rolleyes:
 
WOW, giving 1% to product (RED) off every $150 ipod.... BIG EFFING WOOP!!!, and thats not even steve, that Apple the company. Steve Jobs is a tight wad and Bono / U2 Suck ass! With 8 Billion dollars, he could give 7 Billion of it to different charitites and still live VERY comfortably!
 
Do you give to charity???

When the money is yours and you earned it.. you can do what ever you want with it. Everybody should give half of their bank account to charity before pointing out fingers, not that easy is it!? Most of the people on here complaining probably don't even give a dollar to a beggar on the street. Everybody should do their part before complaining or pointing out fingers. I do agree that Apple should give more then 50% of their gross profit from Red to charity.. and yes I do give to beggars on the street.
 
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Wow. The single most valuable company in the world (which means it pays more taxes to welfare than anything/anyone else on the planet) can still be criticized for not donating to charity?! Steve jobs invented the modern computer, smart phone, and modern tablet that have all gone to place more jobs (not to mention apple itself) than any other human in history. I'd say he has given more to our livelihood than anyone! Tread lightly lest atlas shrug!

Really? You mean like how GE owed nothing in taxes? You don't think Apple played games with the tax code too? Are you really that deluded?
 
I read a pretty old interview with Steve where he said that he wanted to create a foundation or something but he wanted to do it privately and that he did not want to leave a fortune to his children. Warren Buffet famously said he wanted to leave enough money to his children so they "could do anything but not do nothing"
 
How much dough are these bastards writing the articles donating? Probably nothing, the dirty, worthless piss-ants.

This isn't about the writer, this is about Jobs.

And why is someone a bastard because they write their opinion/article. If that's the case - do you know how many "bastards" are on this forum?

p.s. do you even know how much these writers make? I'll give you a hint - they aren't making a lot. Not by a long stretch.

A post like yours is indicative of someone who needs to take a breath and step away from the computer before posting. Relax.
 
Who cares whether or not he gave to charity? How is this topic even germane to anything?

What on earth does that have to do with Apple products? The man's done enough in his lifetime, he probably gave to some charity or another anonymously, we don't know how much or when, nor does it really matter.

Charity is just that. Charity. Optional. Some people give, some don't. It's not exactly a requirement, nor is it a prerequisite for sainthood. Steve Jobs' ultimate legacy (and destination when the time comes) is really no one's business, but it should be clear that he's done enough good in his life that to push criticism even further and require even more from him (and his past) is kind of ludicrous.
 
So?

It doesn't really matter one way or another to consumers. Apple gear, however DOES matter. That's all that really matters. Charity doesn't generate profit, sales, or great products. It's nice. But it's a lucky bonus.

The very quality you criticize about Jobs, helped create three of the products in your sig. I assume you're satisfied with your purchases, are you not? (since you're advertising them.) Perhaps you owe him a word of thanks instead, or at least an acknowledgement that he made great things, and did it perfectly legally.

It's quite likely (if not absolutely true) that if Steve Jobs were any other way, had his personality and attitude been any different, you wouldn't be enjoying those products today (and would probably using something inferior.)

Your post is the most foolish thing I've read. You defend all things Apple and Jobs tooth and nail...without any independent though, empathy, or understanding. You seriously believe that Apple sponsored philanthropy could result in diminishing the products you prize so much(and more than people obviously)?
Thats a delusional and immoral perception. So, $78 Billion Dollars in liquid assets is a success (by your rational)? How about $70 Billion of liquid assets and a couple hundred million lives saved? Apple is in the position (and has been since the early 2000's) to have both levels of success. The delusion and bias represented in your post is mind blowing ignorance.
 
Bono has an opinion about something?
Stop the presses.

Stops people ragging him about not paying his taxes i suppose.

I really cannot believe that this is an article written in a so called "quality paper" like the New York Times.
 
If only every single person in the world would donate 100% of all their money and assets to charity. What a wonderful world this would be!
 
When the money is yours and you earned it.. you can do what ever you want with it. Everybody should give half of their bank account to charity before pointing out fingers, not that easy is it!? Most of the people on here complaining probably don't even give a dollar to a beggar on the street. Everybody should do their part before complaining or pointing out fingers.

While I agree with you on the it's your money and you spend it how you wish.

I will point out it's silly to say some one on low income should give money to be able to point fingers. A dollar for some one living paycheck to paycheck makes a much bigger difference (it can make the difference on being able to eat something) than a dollar to some one who has billions.
 
Who cares whether or not he gave to charity? How is this topic even germane to anything?

What on earth does that have to do with Apple products? The man's done enough in his lifetime, he probably gave to some charity or another anonymously, we don't know how much or when, nor does it really matter.

Charity is just that. Charity. Optional. Some people give, some don't. It's not exactly a requirement, nor is it a prerequisite for sainthood. Steve Jobs' ultimate legacy (and destination when the time comes) is really no one's business, but it should be clear that he's done enough good in his life that to push criticism even further and require even more is kind of ludicrous.

Obviously you care since you're defending Steve Jobs.

And who (but you) made any correlation between charity and products?

You're absurd sometimes... really.
 
Your post is the most foolish thing I've read. You defend all things Apple and Jobs tooth and nail...without any independent though, empathy, or understanding. You seriously believe that Apple sponsored philanthropy could result in diminishing the products you prize so much(and more than people obviously)?
Thats a delusional and immoral perception. So, $78 Billion Dollars in liquid assets is a success (by your rational)? How about $70 Billion of liquid assets and a couple hundred million lives saved? Apple is in the position (and has been since the early 2000's) to have both levels of success. The delusion and bias represented in your post is mind blowing ignorance.

Pal, look in the mirror. The delusion and bias huh ...
 
Going by the Book, Jobs is hardly a good christian though.

I'm particularly fond of the militant racist crazies and nutjob science denialist fundamentalists that round out the Christion herd, but nothing beats a Nordic Christ for me. Seems to me, that they go by the book too.

Has to be the blond surfer dude look.
 
Exactly. Thank you. As a devout believer I say this all the time to nonbelievers. Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. The lack of evidence always suggests some truth.

Really? You're going to turn this into a faith thing?

I bet you think the earth is only 5000 years old, that it's flat, and that it's at the center of the universe too?
 
Your post is the most foolish thing I've read. You defend all things Apple and Jobs tooth and nail...without any independent though, empathy, or understanding. You seriously believe that Apple sponsored philanthropy could result in diminishing the products you prize so much(and more than people obviously)?
Thats a delusional and immoral perception. So, $78 Billion Dollars in liquid assets is a success (by your rational)? How about $70 Billion of liquid assets and a couple hundred million lives saved? Apple is in the position (and has been since the early 2000's) to have both levels of success. The delusion and bias represented in your post is mind blowing ignorance.

Obviously you care since you're defending Steve Jobs.

And who (but you) made any correlation between charity and products?

You're absurd sometimes... really.

Sad, but true.
 
This is my biggest criticism of Steve Jobs. His continued lack of philanthropic efforts is appalling given how richly he is blessed. If Apple is your focus and legacy, God help you. Millions starve and are afflicted by disease every day, and he's going to sit on his wealth and rest on some laurel of (Red) Product placement and his superfluous adherence to Buddhism? (Real Buddhists are some of the most compassionate and self sacrificing people on this earth)

This jolly back patting is ridiculous, Steve doesn't deserve an ounce of praise or concern.

Dude, you don't know what Steve does or doesn't do with his money. He may do lots, but do it anonymously. Maybe he has a larger plan in mind.

I'm not saying that he does or that he doesn't. The simple fact is unless he chooses to make it public knowledge, none of us know and that includes you.
 
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