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I use both the Kindle app and the Apple Books app for reading. I like them both and buy for whichever app is offering the better deal. I would rate the kindle app higher despite apple preventing Amazon from allowing purchases within the app. These change sit Books help overall, But the Apple Bookstore (and books) could benefit from better access to reader reviews, which the Amazon kindle store has over Apple.

The addition of the screen orientation lock to within the Books app is a very welcome feature that helps bring it on par with the kindle app. Previously using the global orientation lock results in inconvenience with other apps. The little icon on the bottom right is a good solution too.

And I too love the old skeuomorphic page turn and progress bar. Tim Cook still working out his Forestall fears I guess.
Because of this I will upgrade to IOS 16 first to test out the new books features. If I don't like the changes I will delay upgrading to iPad OS 16 because thats where I mostly read my books.
 
It was a beautiful and natural animation. Sad to lose it and just turn books into boring web pages.
The beauty of it was that it offered instant, intuitive, and natural feedback. Just like we used to have when video controls had button shapes larger than your fingertip, which used to allow instant feedback about whether the press was recognized or not. Now we’re stuck with tiny buttonless tap “buttons” that don’t always take the first time, and maybe now less assuring page turn cues. Way to go Apple.
 
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So glad that we are finally getting the ability to change the line height spacing. It’s a small thing, but it’s always been one of the things that was missing from Apple Books versus Kindle.
 
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Finally, no more the option to disable justified text!

As ‘book-like’ as that was, it was a disaster in its default, automated form – and made for a difficult reading experience. I submitted feedback a while ago and it looks like they took a closer look at the typography settings 👍
 
If you haven’t already, please provide feedback to Apple regarding page animation and progress bar. If they want this new animation then why not allow a toggle in settings. I’m not on the beta yet but will provide feedback.


Yeah, first thing I did was submit feedback. I hope many others do as well.

The number of pages left in a chapter still appears for me, but only when I bring up the menu from the bottom. It’s a bit awkward, but at least it’s still there.

Since this is the first beta, I’m hoping we’ll at least see some small refinements before the final release. Like others, I also really miss the page turning animation, which showed brilliant attention to design details, right down to see the text through the back of the page. To be honest, I’m surprised it survived the iOS 7 war on skeuomorphism, but after eight more major iOS releases it seemed it was going to stick around.

Oh weird. I do see the percentage of book completed when I tap that menu, but no page number totals.

I do really miss the pages left in chapter and total pages of the book. And the animation.. not a fan at all, especially when reading in landscape with 2 pages (columns) visible.
 
Yeah, first thing I did was submit feedback. I hope many others do as well.



Oh weird. I do see the percentage of book completed when I tap that menu, but no page number totals.

I do really miss the pages left in chapter and total pages of the book. And the animation.. not a fan at all, especially when reading in landscape with 2 pages (columns) visible.
I have run into books that do not display the page numbers left in chapter.
 
I have run into books that do not display the page numbers left in chapter.

I was wondering that and checked a few different books, including ones I've purchased in Books. On older devices they show the pages left in chapter.

Interestingly on macOS Ventura there are still some older controls for fonts and pages remaining in chapters is still there.
 
Oh weird. I do see the percentage of book completed when I tap that menu, but no page number totals.
The percentage is in the menu, but the number of pages left in the chapter appears at the very top of the screen, right below the notch. Sometimes it takes a moment or two to come up.

I haven't found a way to see the total number of pages in the book while reading, although it's shown at the top of the table of contents that appears after you tap on the Contents menu. You can also tap-and-hold and swipe on that button to scrub through the book to get to a specific page instead of opening the table of contents.
 
Seems like they also removed the finish button at the end of a book or epub.
 
I haven't heard of this. Is it on Mac or PC?
Looks like a website to download eBooks you don't own. If you want to download from there morally (which I recommend), you can purchase the eBook on Apple Books and then download it from 3lib if you want to look at it somewhere other than an Apple device.
 
The percentage is in the menu, but the number of pages left in the chapter appears at the very top of the screen, right below the notch. Sometimes it takes a moment or two to come up.

I haven't found a way to see the total number of pages in the book while reading, although it's shown at the top of the table of contents that appears after you tap on the Contents menu. You can also tap-and-hold and swipe on that button to scrub through the book to get to a specific page instead of opening the table of contents.

My goodness, now I see that on my iPad lol.

A bit odd on iPad with the 2 page / column view now being treated as 1 page (based on page number at the bottom), but the page count at the top is treating the 2 columns as 2 pages.
 
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Feedback the hell out of this for the beta. These changes kinda suck. Page turning was the one skeuomorphic thing I liked in iOS! And yeah the new settings just don’t seem as convenient or intuitive. We did it for the Mac battery settings graphic. We can do it for this.
 
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So still no red text on black background, which is the best option for late night reading. Nook is the only one that has it so far.
Which Nook device(s) have that red-on-black option? It sounds promising (I do most of my reading before bed), but there doesn’t appear much online about it after searching.

Thanks in advance!
 
And Apple strikes again... The infinite ways iTunes and Books teams have managed to make their respective products worst, more difficult to use and unintuitive over, and over, and over again through the years is just perplexing. Is it about job security? Are they constantly being pushed to "to do something different we did last time" just for the sake of it? ["Nah... we are the smart pants here... those users must adopt to whatever changes we the geniuses will inflict on them"]
 
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And Apple strikes again... The infinite ways iTunes and Books teams have managed to make their respective products worst, more difficult to use and unintuitive over, and over, and over again through the years is just perplexing. Is it about job security? Are they constantly being pushed to "to do something different we did last time" just for the sake of it? ["Nah... we are the smart pants here... those users must adopt to whatever changes we the geniuses will inflict on them"]

Amen!

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Gack, books is so crappy. It's almost as bad as the Home app, which I haven't opened since it first came out.

It keep unloading and reloading books from my library. Things vanish and come back. Books are local then need to be reloaded from the cloud. Bookmarks and positions are gone.

WTF?
I have the same issues, combining ICloud with IBooks was a bust, books randomly disappear, or just stop appearing in their previous location.
Also ICloud should give you all your books as a file in the Files app, with original name. iCloud and IBook integration is a mess.
 
I hope it stops offloading my books into iCloud for no reason, even when I have space on my iPad. It’s super annoying having to re-download stuff again and again.

But I love using the Books app on iPhone and iPad for eBooks and I’m super glad to see it’s getting some attention.
I think you can turn off this in settings. You can decide which apps use iCloud or not.

For me I find iCloud to be nothing but a virus. It's not bug free enough to not lose stuff (typical Apple software quality control these days). And when your iCloud is full then good luck, it basically kills any app using it. And even if it did work properly, it's not big enough to actually store all your stuff without paying a mortgage sized subscription. Whereas my built in phone's drive works perfectly fine, and has heaps of space, and I can backup to my laptop just fine, and backup my laptop just fine to a non-iCloud service or external drive and physically store offsite.
 
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Such a disappointment. I’ve been clamoring for years about Books. Why are the physical files hidden? I can see where my music, video, and photo files are. Why not Books? It should have its own folder in the Finder side panel like the rest of our media files. Extremely limited on putting books in categories. We should be able to create sub-categories. My family has some where around 1,000 books in our library and it’s a mess trying to find one. Sometimes I need to reference a book but I don’t have all the titles memorized. Multiple levels of categories and sub categories would be great. And some of my books that are part of a series show up correctly, stacked on top of each other, but most do not and we have no way of adding books to the stack! Why?? Where is the rich meta data? I think Apple is still scared to do anything with books as they had their hands slapped for anti trust stuff a while back. Well thank you government! Now my Books app sucks.
Seriously, you're blaming the government for Apple's gross incompetency, complacency, and Walled Garden secrecy???!!! WTAF.
 
There's something not right with the thought processes of people who claim they "can't" use both Apple Books and Kindle (or any other competing app) simply because they already own content on one platform.

You do know, don't you, that you can have more than one app on your device at one time? No? Oh dear...
They're talking about using ONE library to maintain their collection, not having half their books in Apple Books library and half in Kindle library.

Additionally, Kindle metadata tagging is non-existent for non-Kindle purchased books, compared to Apple Books – although Apple seem to have gimped it down more in recent macOS's, unfortunately.
 
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