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I have very different style from Steve Jobs but I do like his "uniform" approach of having something simple that works for many situations and wearing it frequently. I buy many copies of the same outfit and wear in a lot of situations. Why waste time in the closet every morning (or evening) trying to pick out an outfit. I still mix it up for situations out of the normal every day though and I buy many colors of the "standard" pieces so I have some variety.

Because if you're not a famous billionaire, everybody judges you based on your looks. And if you look like a cheap nerd, it's really hard to become CEO, or any other important job for that matter. It's not that hard to understand, really. I assure you that when he was selling computers or searching for investors, when he was unknown, he couldn't afford to look like that.

Looking like a cheap nerd doesn't help anybody. You can be successful despite it, at most.
 
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Steve did dress the way he wanted he was never about suits.

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Decided to go see what else they offered, and was NOT disappointed, albeit a bit surprised they ever made that turtleneck given their other clothes.

Here's their 2017 Men's Look Book... http://www.isseymiyake.com/brand/pdf/ME_2017ss.pdf

I like to imagine Jobs giving a keynote in something like No. 4 or No. 31, had he chosen differently while in their store.

He could have always chosen #38 and looked like he was a character from The Matrix.
 
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Yowza, 270 for a shirt. I can think of a bunch of other things to use that money instead of a black turtleneck.
 
Because if you're not a famous billionaire, everybody judges you based on your looks. And if you look like a cheap nerd, it's really hard to become CEO, or any other important job for that matter. It's not that hard to understand, really.

That's a slightly pessimistic attitude. Plenty of great jobs out there where you don't have to suit up.

As long as you don't look like a scruff, I think it's really important to feel comfortable in your own skin. Sure, there are lots of jobs out there where you can't rock up in a Game of Thrones shirt and jeans. But there are plenty of other jobs where you wouldn't much fancy being CEO yet can still dress casually and be on a really great wage.

There's a great deal more to life than lots and lots of money!
 
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That's a slightly pessimistic attitude. Plenty of great jobs out there where you don't have to suit up.

As long as you don't look like a scruff, I think it's really important to feel comfortable in your own skin. Sure, there are lots of jobs out there where you can't rock up in a Game of Thrones shirt and jeans. But there are plenty of other jobs where you wouldn't much fancy being CEO yet can still dress casually and be on a really great wage.

There's a great deal more to life than lots and lots of money!

You don't have to suit up to dress decently. But using nike running sneakers, baggy jeans and a black turtleneck, that won't help you in any situation, that I can assure you. Don't be mistaken, it's a billionaire's eccentricity, nothing more and nothing less. There may be billionaires who pee in milk bottles. That's not what makes them brilliant. They are brilliant despite that.
 
The only way that it would be worth $270, is if it was the exact shirt that Steve bought and there was a limited number with each being numbered.
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You don't have to suit up to dress decently. But using nike running sneakers, baggy jeans and a black turtleneck, that won't help you in any situation, that I can assure you. Don't be mistaken, it's a billionaire's eccentricity, nothing more and nothing less.

Actually, New Balance :)
 
You don't have to suit up to dress decently. But using nike running sneakers, baggy jeans and a black turtleneck, that won't help you in any situation, that I can assure you.

I agree. You don't have to suit up to dress decently. But the poster you responded to didn't say anything about Nike trainers and baggy jeans, so the reaction was a touch OTT. They just said they pick similar outfits.

Granted, that could range anything from simple coloured tops to bright yellow "I love big ol' booty" shirts. But I think they just meant simple smart stuff. Similar outfits doesn't mean you look like a cheap nerd; well, I don't think so anyway :)
 
Mutha_#$%*@$! Ridiculous!

Like really?
And about the price: FRAK-Q

Absolutely absurd everything about this article and company actioning the need to do anything about the turtleneck. And yes I came here just to voice this opinion cause it's just ... yeah.
 
Because if you're not a famous billionaire, everybody judges you based on your looks. And if you look like a cheap nerd, it's really hard to become CEO, or any other important job for that matter. It's not that hard to understand, really. I assure you that when he was selling computers or searching for investors, when he was unknown, he couldn't afford to look like that.

Looking like a cheap nerd doesn't help anybody. You can be successful despite it, at most.

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"Are you Steve Jobs?"

"Uh, no."

"Are you the CEO of Apple?"

"No, I'm not."

“Then you have no business wearing New Balance running shoes” (Throws shoes over railing)
 
Yeah....NO! As much as he did it as a branding thing, fashion wise, it was ugly, boring, and made him look like a dictator more then anything. If apples customers weren't such sheep, then it would NEVER fly. If any other CEO tried that, he would be mocked relentlessly as an evil looking person. Ubisofts CEO comes to mind. LOL

Evil looking to wear a simple and neat black shirt with jeans? Come on now... if anything it looks humble and unassuming.
 
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"Are you Steve Jobs?"

"Uh, no."

"Are you the CEO of Apple?"

"No, I'm not."

“Then you have no business wearing New Balance running shoes” (Throws shoes over railing)

But then again the Ryan Gosling character is a too tightly wound; both characters have an arc such they meet in the middle by the end.

I say, wear whatever you want, just give it some thought and try to look respectable.
 
Only $270?! I’ll take 5 - one for each work day!

Actually, as stupid as that sounds, it wouldn’t be a bad investment.

Shirt - 5x $270
Jeans - 1x $300
Shoes - 1x $500
Underwear - 5x $25
Socks - 5x $30

Toatal investment, less than $2,500 for a whole work wardrobe that’ll last a year.
 
My frivolous post was deleted on a frivolous thread. Funny, maybe I should've just said "slow news day?".
 
Because if you're not a famous billionaire, everybody judges you based on your looks. And if you look like a cheap nerd, it's really hard to become CEO, or any other important job for that matter. It's not that hard to understand, really. I assure you that when he was selling computers or searching for investors, when he was unknown, he couldn't afford to look like that.

Looking like a cheap nerd doesn't help anybody. You can be successful despite it, at most.

I think there are varying subcultures where that may apply but it's generally an outdated way of thinking that doesn't universally apply anymore. I'm certainly not a billionaire but I'm relatively successful and have had this dressing philosophy since prior to my personal success. I also spend a lot of my time on the west coast in technical circles where geek culture is the norm. If I'm in Manhattan speaking with execs in the financial sector that may be one of those occasions where I choose a different item from my wardrobe. If they come to me though I will likely still dress as I am most comfortable.

Geography (I'm mostly in the US and majority west coast although I spend a good amount of time on the east coast too), industry (I'm involved in tech a good deal but also legal, entertainment, and financial among others), and age (I don't consider myself young anymore but young-ish :) ) as well as a host of other factors could play a part here but I believe in general if you deserve to be in the room with someone (on merit) yet they are going to judge you on what you wore to the meeting (within reason) then that person isn't deserving of your time.

And not that I want to discuss the details of my clothing choices with the forum but having a simple "uniform" doesn't mean you have to dress like you just walked out of a thrift shop or a 'con. My daily dress is acceptable just about anywhere on the west coast (where our style tends to be a bit more casual to begin with, i.e. there aren't many restaurants with formal dress codes). If you show up at my office wearing something more formal than a blazer you'll be the one looking out of place.
 
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I agree. You don't have to suit up to dress decently. But the poster you responded to didn't say anything about Nike trainers and baggy jeans, so the reaction was a touch OTT. They just said they pick similar outfits.

Granted, that could range anything from simple coloured tops to bright yellow "I love big ol' booty" shirts. But I think they just meant simple smart stuff. Similar outfits doesn't mean you look like a cheap nerd; well, I don't think so anyway :)
Holy crap! I wore a shirt just like that to a job interview.
/did not get job:(

I wore the same shirt to court to argue a ticket.
/ended up with two:( Stupid judge. She had no sense of humor.

The very last time I wore that shirt was to a lady's night at a local bar
/met my ex-wife - she thought it was cute.:(

Moral of the story... If you're going to wear a "I love big ol' booty" shirt, make sure it's not yellow. It's bad luck.
 
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