That's not a problem for governments and it''s probably better for the environment and climate.The problem is Apple stopped including the charger but didn't lower the price. Phone stayed the same price or got more expensive.
That's not a problem for governments and it''s probably better for the environment and climate.The problem is Apple stopped including the charger but didn't lower the price. Phone stayed the same price or got more expensive.
lol you know how many folks from around the world is just getting their first iphone? my sister in law back in turkey just got her first iphone last year. small example, yes i know, but it isn't hard to scale that up given how expensive techs are outside of us.Let’s take your totally reasonable example. If they buy all buy a new iPhone because they just landed on planet Earth a charger will cost them less than 5 percent each and once only (1st buy).
And here is the AirPods Recycling Program: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/airpods/dev4b98b4784/web
With all due respect, a charger is something NEEDED to use the device. The others you mention are optional.
I don't see an issue with giving the choice to the consumer, but if Apple was really concerned that everyone would choose the option of the charger, then that would be easily resolved by offering a discount for those that choose not to include the charger.
That way, everything is covered, preventing excessive waste by giving people an option to forgo the charger for a discount, and the people that want the charger can get it. All while keeping iPhone prices the same.
Keeping prices the same, and then charging people for things that were previously included in the name of the environment, seems pretty self-serving.
Honestly, I would rather Apple say that they are no longer including the charger to boost their margins or due to rising costs. At least they would be honest about it.
They're right to sue. The fact they don't give a charger anymore is PURE greed. They're just using "carbon emissions" propaganda to conceal their greed. Literally when you get a new iphone your purchase doesn't end there, you literally have to go online or go to a store to buy a new charger.
yes i do, since apple ship the iphone with usbc now none of my old 5w usba apple charger is compatible.
When the new common charger directive in EU is law in about 2 years, it will be illegal not to offer a mobile phone without a charger.
Does Brazilian consumer law, which Apple is currently violating, say anything about cases or screen protectors?
iPhones use a proprietary charging connector.
Most people don‘t have or use iPhones (or other USB-C powered devices, especially in Brazil).
Hence most people don‘t have an appropriate charger.
Apple's USB-C charger has not been around since 2007 and not nearly as widespread as the USB-A.
Tesla doesn't include a way of charging it's cars without purchasing the required hardware. That's not taking care of the customer either. Yet the cars are flying off the factory shelves. In 2022 it is what it is.I used to recommend Apple to all family and friends, especially elderly and technology challenged, under the assurance that no matter what, Apple would take care of them. They may not generously give you extra accessories like other companies, but they're going to give you everything you need for a great, simple experience, and that's why the premium price was worth it.
Refusing to include a charging brick is not taking care of the customer.
Apple should create another sku that has a charger voucher in the box and charge $20 more the sku.I really like that. It introduces a measure of personal responsibility and lets Apple off the hook. They'd still get some savings since many people wouldn't request one.
Good choice or not, this is the way it is. I bought this https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics...cphy=1023191&hvtargid=pla-1087581365270&psc=1 If I'm spending $1000 on a phone the extra $14 isn't going to be a deal breaker. However, at home I already have a drawerful of bricks and cables.doesn't mean its a good choice, i'm lucky that my usb hub for my mbp has the necessary peripheral. but for millions of others who doesn't have my setup its a bother. imagine a family of 4 getting their first iphone or something, they would need to spend 100 bucks on quality chargers because apple claim its better for the environment, which is a total bs argument from apple since they sell millions of disposable airpods every year.
The main purpose is to produce less Apple charges
My suggested method would produce less.What is best for the environment? Not producing anything. Would your solution result in more or less Apple chargers being produced and transported?
New iPhones come with USB-C to Lighting cables.That's not a problem. You can use your old USB-A charger. That's what I'm going to do.
This is an article about Brazilian consumer law.My post was in response to your comment that "giving people who need a charger a free charger is good for the customer" and if that is justification for the law then it may not be well thought at as there can be other things even better (more likely needed) for the customer. Including a charger (which most customers probably have) instead of things like a case or screen protector (which more are likely to need) is wasteful.
Brazilian consumer law, which Apple is willfully violating, says nothing about cases or screen protectors.If Brazil really wants to require an item to be included with an iPhone then why not at least give the customer a choice as to what that item is e.g., a charger, a case and screen protector, or something else of similar value. Otherwise, it can be wasteful.
Of course no one has to, I suspect that there is not anyone that could make a valid argument for Apple’s charger policy.
I believe Apple did the math on this. Sure there will be those who don't have a computer, don't have a phone, don't have any rechargeable gizmos that require a power brick...so should Apple produce 100s of millions of bricks to satisfy the small percentage (imo) of customers who have absolutely no usb ports? My answer is no.lol you know how many folks from around the world is just getting their first iphone? my sister in law back in turkey just got her first iphone last year. small example, yes i know, but it isn't hard to scale that up given how expensive techs are outside of us.
He doesn't have to provide a figure on how many use that service, just that the service exists.as for airpods, please provide a figure on how many folks actually use that service.
They are not willfully violating a law where there is an appeals process in place. That's not the way things work.This is an article about Brazilian consumer law.
Brazilian consumer law, which Apple is willfully violating, says nothing about cases or screen protectors.
Apple has been willfully violating it for around a year and a half, based on when the first fines were levied against them, and has filed the appeal so they can continue to violate it.They are not willfully violating a law that is now in appeal. That's not the way things work.
yeah, this is the way it is in the us, but not so much for brazil it seems lolTesla doesn't include a way of charging it's cars without purchasing the required hardware. That's not taking care of the customer either. Yet the cars are flying off the factory shelves. In 2022 it is what it is.
Apple should create another sku that has a charger voucher in the box and charge $20 more the sku.
Good choice or not, this is the way it is. I bought this https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics...cphy=1023191&hvtargid=pla-1087581365270&psc=1 If I'm spending $1000 on a phone the extra $14 isn't going to be a deal breaker. However, at home I already have a drawerful of bricks and cables.
Do you mean like when Apple dropped the included charger, while simultaneously replacing the USB-A to Lightning cable with a USB-C to Lightning cable? I fail to see how including a cable incompatible with the millions of previously-shipped charge blocks that would "reduce electronic waste". I'd imagine that all it really did was drive sales of cables and/or chargers to get an actual matching set, which was their likely intent in the first place.
services exist doesn't mean its been put to use. if hardly anyone uses the services its existence is irrelevant.I believe Apple did the math on this. Sure there will be those who don't have a computer, don't have a phone, don't have any rechargeable gizmos that require a power brick...so should Apple produce 100s of millions of bricks to satisfy the small percentage (imo) of customers who have absolutely no usb ports? My answer is no.
He doesn't have to provide a figure on how many use that service, just that the service exists.
old cable is yellowed out and doesn't charge half the time, and for some reason it really doesn't like my wife's iphone.You can use your old 5W USB-A charger to charge a new iPhone 14 with a your old (or new) USB-A to Lightning cable.
imagine a family of 4 getting their first iphone or something, they would need to spend 100 bucks on quality chargers because apple claim its better for the environment, which is a total bs argument from apple since they sell millions of disposable airpods every year.
Apple should create another sku that has a charger voucher in the box and charge $20 more the sku.
So basically you are saying you don’t already have at least one charger because you never ever bought an iPhone or iPad and you don’t have a Mac and you don’t prefer wireless charging.