Apple never expects customers to upgrade iPhone every year.
It is up to customers to decide.
Are you saying Apple should release new phone every 4 years ?
Apple does support iPhones for longer than other phone manufacturers.
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Brazil Fines Apple $19 Million for Continuing to Sell iPhones Without Charger
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It is up to customers to decide.
Are you saying Apple should release new phone every 4 years ?
Apple does support iPhones for longer than other phone manufacturers.
Win win for every one, Apple doesn't have to pay fine, Customers would be forced to pay $20 extra with every iPhone purchase.
Apple would be making more money.
If you think price of iPhone is expensive then you shouldn't buy one.
market & customers should determine the price of a product not government.
I think this law should be rewritten to actually avoid both waste and consumer-screwing. But I understand why it was written that way. And the principle was the pretty acceptable "I buy a device, it has to work out of the box".
...but do they give USB-C cables in there too? I live in Italy and I know a whole lot of people with zero USB-C chargers or even PCs in their homes. Mostly older people but still, they should be protected precisely because they're technologically impaired.
Anyway, even if the standard was USB-A, the law should still take in consideration all cases.
I can easily picture people in Brazil having no USB-A chargers at home. They're probably not the ones who buy iPhones regularly but the law has to be generic and protect someone buying their first USB-A device from having to be forced to purchase a charger. How would you write that? Mandatory included charger only for cheap devices? And what if the standard was a proprietary one? Should it be ok not to include it?
I'd prefer Apple to give me a free charger at the advertised price or let me choose to give it up for a discount on another accessory, or something like that. They could do this to prove it was just an environmentally friendly move, they didn't because they love profit too much.
On the other hand, Brazil could choose an acceptable standard or something. But until they do, Apple must comply with that partially very reasonable law.
Correct, every business wants to make more money. Apple is not charity.
Are you not asking for a raise in your company every year ?
wouldn't you be mad if you didn't get a raise every year ?
Lot of people complaining about Apple not including the charger with iPhone purchase.
we don't need government to fix this issue.
Vote with your wallet people, if people stop buying iPhones Apple will change this practice.
and may be good solution to Apple would be to include charger with every iPhone and jacked up price by $20.
then Apple wouldn't be paying fine, customers who already have charger would be paying $20 extra for the phone & Apple would be making more money by including the charger.
start thinking people, don't depend on government for solutions.
Every time government tries to solve problems they make it expensive to people.
Government doesn't know economics or technology.
we don't need government to fix this issue.
Vote with your wallet people, if people stop buying iPhones Apple will change this practice.
and may be good solution to Apple would be to include charger with every iPhone and jacked up price by $20.
then Apple wouldn't be paying fine, customers who already have charger would be paying $20 extra for the phone & Apple would be making more money by including the charger.
start thinking people, don't depend on government for solutions.
Every time government tries to solve problems they make it expensive to people.
Government doesn't know economics or technology.
When did this happen, i purchased my Car in 2021 and i got charging cable with 15 amp adapter.
Do you mean like when Apple dropped the included charger, while simultaneously replacing the USB-A to Lightning cable with a USB-C to Lightning cable? I fail to see how including a cable incompatible with the millions of previously-shipped charge blocks that would "reduce electronic waste". I'd imagine that all it really did was drive sales of cables and/or chargers to get an actual matching set, which was their likely intent in the first place.
I used to recommend Apple to all family and friends, especially elderly and technology challenged, under the assurance that no matter what, Apple would take care of them. They may not generously give you extra accessories like other companies, but they're going to give you everything you need for a great, simple experience, and that's why the premium price was worth it.
Refusing to include a charging brick is not taking care of the customer.
Refusing to include a charging brick is not taking care of the customer.
Not without a power cord, which is the relevant comparison
I really like that. It introduces a measure of personal responsibility and lets Apple off the hook. They'd still get some savings since many people wouldn't request one.
That’s ridiculous and absurd, and in no way a a good analogy. However in that same line, Apple does provide you the antenna and equipment to connect to the network. You analogy is the equivalent to saying that Apple should provide the electricity that keeps the phone charged
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Does Brazilian consumer law, which Apple is currently violating, say anything about cases or screen protectors?
When the new common charger directive in EU is law in about 2 years, it will be illegal not to offer a mobile phone without a charger.
no gov't funnel that type of money down to anything, it goes to the gov't coffer, you think the us gov't give the money they fined johnson and co from the opioid epidemic and gave it to the victims?
Of course it makes sense.
A lot of people will not over time buy a charger for every consumer device they buy.
It's not about giving customers a choice. The motivation for Apple is to produce less cheap chargers.
The best way to achieve this is to make it cumbersome and expensive to get chargers from Apple.
I'm not sure why people are arguing this like its a theoretical issue. Brazilian consumer law says that people have to be given chargers (Apple can simply give them to people who request them) and Apple is violating that law which is why Apple is being fined. Brazil needs to crank up the fines like the Dutch did until it becomes an amount Apple does notice.
In EU, you will be able to take any company to court who refuses to sell you a mobile phone without a charger.
As a non-American, I find your post bizarre. The only thing McDonalds charges extra for here is extra meat. You're actually bragging about how badly consumers are abused in your country and then criticising a country that has laws which actually protect consumer interests at the expense of corporate profits.
Why do you care so much about billionaires profits? You say you hate that they charge 50 cents for extra lettuce. In most of the world, they don't. And yet you want to criticise the rest of the world for not allowing it.
Besides which, your post entirely misses the point. A McChicken is perfectly usable for its intended purpose without extra tomatoes. An iPhone is not usable for its intended purpose without a charger.
In 2026, it will become illegal to refuse to sell you a PC or MacBook without a charger in EU.