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Brazil Fines Apple $19 Million for Continuing to Sell iPhones Without Charger
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I think it’s silly for consumers to be ok with their vendors eliminating goods and services than maintaining and even increasing the price of what is being sold. They should knock 30 bucks off the cost of the phones for not including a charger.
meanwhile apple probably made that 10 fold peddling chargers, cases and screen protectors
you mean the chargers with a usb B connector end that were replaced with usb C end.. don't think they work anymore..
The charging/data cable is still included with iPhones sold in Brazil, isn't it? If it still is, then at least customers without chargers could still charge their phone by plugging it into the computer, or even the cigarette lighter of their car if they have an adapter.
Of course, there are those who argue that the charger is an integral and necessary part of the phone (it is necessary to charge the device, after all), but for devices that can also charge wirelessly, would Apple then be required to include a Qi wireless charger?
What percentage of the population now has access to a charger? How many people buy their first iPhone and have never owned a single device with a charger, whether tablet, smartphone or any other similar device?
Of course, there are those who argue that the charger is an integral and necessary part of the phone (it is necessary to charge the device, after all), but for devices that can also charge wirelessly, would Apple then be required to include a Qi wireless charger?
What percentage of the population now has access to a charger? How many people buy their first iPhone and have never owned a single device with a charger, whether tablet, smartphone or any other similar device?
While I think all this charger thing is good for the environment and all the e-waste generated, specially for something that sells in millions, I don’t see how the accessories thing argument applies. You don’t need a case/headphones/specific software to be able to use a phone/laptop, those just bring extra value, but you do need a charger otherwise next day you can’t even turn it on.
I’d buy the argument of “a la carte” if the charger price was deduced from the phone price, but it’s not the case in fact you are paying the same (or even more) as when it was included, just that it isn’t. If we are going to justify the charger policy let’s do it for the right reasons (environment), not the wrong ones (shilling for a big company).
You assume a lot about my family's ownership of tech stuff. But since you're so curious, she has one of the tiny little square (slow) USB chargers. BTW I'm not inferring that a government should be able to mandate these things. If Apple actually pisses off enough consumers who need a charger, and expected one, that Apple's problem.
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There is no way they are going to subtract the charges if you don’t want tomatoes and onions. I don’t think they do. They still charge you the same. But you do make a very good point. Lawsuit, 😂
Here's a thought: why couldn't Apple sell two versions of the iPhone, one with charger in the box and one without? Then the customer could choose, and everyone would be happy. You could either choose to save money and help the environment a little by buying the charger-less version, or go for the convenience and pay slightly more for the charger version.
Wait. You actually go to McDonald's for burgers? Are you in one of those sad and lonely places that don't have In-n-Out? I feel so sad for you.
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A simple way to solve this would just be to offer people a free charger at purchase if they want it, or maybe the phone is $5 cheaper without it, whatever. If they want it, just toss in the charger in its current separate packaging. No need to rework current packaging.Either way you let people who need one get one, and those who don’t can help the environment.
Funny how these topics show exactly how many fanboy are still on MacRumors.
It’s simple: a country has laws, you want to sell your stuff in that country? You follow their laws.
It’s that simple.
It’s simple: a country has laws, you want to sell your stuff in that country? You follow their laws.
It’s that simple.
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Mcdonald's has the best French fries. Hands down. 👌🏻 They also have the best Coca-Cola. Not sure what it is but it hits differently. In n Out is cool but it’s always so busy 😂
I have a box with chargers, mostly Apple, but a couple of Amazon and Samsung, too.
Yeah, the question is: at what point in time does the product no longer remain a viable, usable product? What makes it a finished product? I think that manufacturers should have the ability to decide these things, not governments. If customers don't like it, they don't have to buy the product.
It is a rather bold and somewhat presumptuous move to not include the thing that supplies power to the device in the box. Then again, if it's well-stated by the manufacturer that this part is extra, I don't see what the problem is. Either you agree with the terms and buy the adapter, or you don't, I would think.
Exactly. The way Apple did it destroys their own “it’s for the environment” argument.
It’s no coïncidence their phone’s suddenly shipped with usb-c cables.
Good point about laws. The thing is, laws are not always the best thing for everyone, and not all laws are the most sensible or practical.
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Interesting. A lot of people would want the adapter anyway, just in case... or they could just resell it, if they're thinking about making a little money of a "freebie." Most people would want the adapter if it came as a free option. On the other hand, give them a discount and they may not want the adapter any more.
Just ignoring them still isn’t the way to go though.
You know, they also used to include EarPods. Why not force them to include those? And my iPhone on June 29, 2007 came with a dock! Where is my dock? I’m owed 14 docks since I’ve had every iPhone except the 5S (that was an expensive, busy year for us). They also should be forced to include 30-pin to Lightning adapters and those Lightning to headphone jack adapters. Otherwise they need to include AirPods instead of EarPods. Macs should also be forced to include disc and floppy drives and serial ports. The iPhone should include a FireWire 400 and FireWire 800 adapter for older Macs.
All jokes aside we really need the court to force Apple to bring back 3D Touch. I seriously miss it so much.
All jokes aside we really need the court to force Apple to bring back 3D Touch. I seriously miss it so much.
Different from petrol, the longer an electronic products powered by Li-Ion batteries stays on the shelf unopened, the greater the chance that the customer will not be able to power up the unit at all once they unbox it.
Apple is not complying and thumbing its nose at the laws of that country… perhaps there should be a little bit harsher ruling where they take some of the local executives to jail and also padlock the retail outlets that are found to continue selling them, along with confiscating the inventory in the distribution centers within the country… that would get the Apple leaders/executives attention that are based in Cupertino and Wall Street NYC… thats the problem with these huge corporate behemouths - they are allowed to be viewed as too big to enforce laws against; - and thats just not true, they (the countries law enforcers) just need to enforce them vigorously and forcefully… the courts have spoken… its time to enforce! Maybe that will influence them in how they conduct themselves in this country (USA) too… doubtful.
Good point, you are right. Laws cannot be ignored, unless you're willing to pay the fines. In this case, I imagine that Apple was willing to pay the fines because the benefits (apparently environmental, but also probably logistical and supply-related) outweighed the costs.
Yes. They should include everything. Why not? Do you own Apple stocks and worried that it might impact the rate of return on your investment?