For everyone gleefully saying Yasss Queen, imagine if the world had done this five years ago and forced the use of Micro-USB on mobile devices, how would we have USB-C devices? But since USB-C is just a port shape its probably the most future proof thing we could hope for until wireless becomes worthwhile.
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Brazil Latest Country to Consider Forcing Apple to Adopt USB-C for iPhones
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Mazdas, and Im sure other brands, now have the option of wireless charging pads and wireless CarPlay.
If the legislation is in big part about e-waste though, there shouldn’t be two different cables with different properties either… for arguments sake, if I have one USB-C cable and/or slot that only does power delivery, then I’ll need ANOTHER one for data if I had wanted to “re-use” said cable somewhere else… except that this extra cable can’t be lighting, has to be USB-C.
Same Thunderbolt vs USBC, they should all be thunderbolt then for maximum reuse.
I would agree to never ever see again USBA/B/micro/mini/etc connectors and cables starting as of now though.
One cable, I guess you mean. You can already use one charger.
The last time, it wasn’t a mandate, it was only a suggestion. Apple didn’t include an adapter. Also, this new legislation (from the EU) doesn’t allow getting around it with an adapter.
Bring it on, they’ve diverged with iPads and it’s a pain, never mind the disposable nature of lighting cables. God knows how many weve gone through in the household, no such issue with usbc.
One standard will be utopia.
One standard will be utopia.
To be fair this is more like forcing all countries to use the same power outlet, voltage and mains frequency. (Which actually would also be total common sense, but would be way too costly to implement considering each country in the world is 100 years or so down the line of using its own system, not to mention the billions of 'legacy' devices in use.)
This. Locales that don't have these type of nanny restrictions, will see the products with the greatest innovations. These types of regulations, imo, will only serve to stifle innovations.
Political bodies dictating technology. The future connector might be this....😆
I think the EU regulation requires renewal every given amount of years.
Otherwise it elapses.
Till too slow. Companies can't launch new tech immediately and have to wait at least until the next cycle.
At this point I will just wait for the iPhone USB C. Bad news for my iPhone 7 tho xD
Yep, they do. In general people are pretty slow to adopt to changes. It took people nearly a decade to adopt to wireless earphones and even that not entirely by choice.
Cost and compatibility.
If, as with the EU, all they really require a a USB-C plug and a PD; Apple and others can make custom pin configurations using the USB-C plug and still comply. Nothing, in the EU version at leasts, ensures compatibility beyond basic PD charging.
More likely Apple doesn't really care about the legislation as long as it doesn't impact their timeline for introducing USB-C iPhones. Apple could, for example, not introduce one in the EU until 2025 by moving the introduction date of the last Lightening iPhone to before teh cutoff date where all new devices require USB-C.
If Brazil's date impacts Apple's plans I suspect Apple will try to influence the date it takes effect.
An EU model would make no sense and likely cost more do to a smaller production run.
I think they are, judging by the iPad; although they could surprise everyone and go wireless.
As others point out, their are uses for teh iPhone where a cable is needed.
Nothing in the EU legislation would make life much easier beyond basic PD charging.
I suspect a port will be around for some time.
Wireless.
If legislature sets standards we'd still be using RS-232. Even when technical committees write standards there are enough variations that result in incompatible implementations. Look at PD in USB-C. Not every charger and cable supports PD yet it is in the standard. An TB uses the same plug but is different.
I'm not sure. Governments will end up putting Apple in a corner with these regulations, and this one specifically is a good thing. There's no reason to use Lightning anymore. USB-C is fast, small, reversible, and sturdy when plugged in. It meets all of Apple's criteria.
How long will Apple continue to use Lightning ports if that weren't for the governments to put an end to it?
Even 1 additional year is too much.
Because this is clearly Brazil's biggest issue to worry about. 
That might be true in other scenarios. But specifically regarding consumer tech and charging ports, there is no physical or wireless port/cable on the horizon that promises anything more than what the best USB-C version can deliver (Thunderbolt, etc.), or a standard that can't be made to fit within the specifications of USB-C cable/port technology.
You can go through all the literature and news articles on the subject. There is no such tech in the near future. It's all speculation and prototypes at best, none of them markedly superior to USB-C on enough metrics to warrant a shift away from USB-C.
Plus, even Apple itself repeatedly touts USB-C as superior by comparison to products that don't feature it and clearly segments its cheapest products to never get it so that you have to buy at least the mid-tier iPad Air to get increased transfer speeds and display connectivity.
Look at this extensive marketing paragraph -Apple doesn't even mention a single word on transfer speeds on iPhones and hasn't done so for close to 10 years because of how embarrassingly inferior it is by industry standards, or just plain terrible by comparison to what iPads Pro and MacBooks get for absolutely no good reason other than pleasing its shareholders.
Furthermore, Apple has kept Lightning at USB 2.0 speeds for all iPhones since it was introduced in 2012 with the iPhone 5. It even shortly implemented a new USB 3.0 version of Lightning but only used it in one or two generations of iPads Pro only to jump to the much better USB-C for the 2018 iPads Pro. Not even iPhones Pro could get this marginally upgraded version of Lightning.
If Apple actually cared to give consumers better than the best of what other brands can offer, then it would have opted for USB-C or a superior, proprietary port/cable.
Instead, all of Apple's aggressive "innovation" has tied iPhone buyers to the vastly inferior, USB 2.0 speed Lightning port for nearly a full decade.
In this particular case, government regulation isn't stifling innovation. It is dragging the entire tech industry forward by the ears because it's been holding iPhone users back for way too long.
Additionally, Apple will always be able to sue the EU and win back its freedom once it can present the numbers on all the innovative ports it hasn't been able to put in its products.
So until Apple gathers all its evidence and paperwork we can hopefully get back to industry standard transfer and charging speeds for iPhones for the moment. The only downside to this is for Apple's shareholders who will slowly have to kiss that sweet Mfi royals money goodbye. But for consumers, this is nothing but a win.
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Is USB 2.0 the greatest innovation in cable/port tech? Because Apple globally and in the U.S. has up to this point been 110% free to do as it pleases with its products yet has kept Lightning at USB 2.0 speeds for over nine years and is heading for more than a decade post iPhone 14 launch.
Companies/industries do NOT innovate if stifling innovation or arbitrarily sticking to proprietary tech generates too much money.
Only "nanny" restrictions can fight this kind of scrupulous stifling of innovation and enforcing of outdated, inferior technology, like Lightning is.
Again, USB-C is just a connector specification. If these governments really cared, they would also mandate the USB4 specification.
We still don't know what charging connector Apple will use on the iPhone 14. It's likely Apple prototyped iPhone 14 models with USB Type C ports that support Thunderbolt 3/USB 3.2 Gen 2, and it would not be far-fetched that Apple gives the go-ahead to start production of the iPhone 14 with USB Type C ports next month.
Did the government mandate these innovations stop at a certain point?
Lightning was an innovation.
And that is why innovation will crawl to a halt in certain locations. Outdated tech will stay that way due to these regulations. Ymmv on the opinions.
