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invaLPsion said:
On the 30th, if we don't hear anything at all about powermacs, I am going to take the dive and switch, I am not waiting to WWDC.

It's the 31st ... Me wonders if all those who said they were ordering on the 30th have placed their order yet. ;)
 
Weren't they supposed to buy Universal Music with that?

Whatever happened with that?
What else could they be planning to do with $6Bn?
Its not going on Apple stores....
 
Thor74 said:
If in fact we do have to wait until June/July for updates, and they do not include the full jump up to 3 gigahertz like Steve Jobs promised....

Well he should step down. Since it will be one of the easiest and actually most honest times Apple nay-sayers in the press/tech world will have to attack the company = loose stock value and embarrase us faithful apple owners... :mad:


I wonder how many Apple shareholders would agree with your assessment. After all, all that has happened for the stockholders since Jobs came back is ... they made a TON of money, the company has become very cash wealthy, their R&D remains among the best, etc. I'd like to see you sell your position to the stockholders. :p
 
nsb3000 said:
In the PC world, they get speed bumps every 3 months...Now I can deal with only every 6 months, cuz the Mac market is smaller, but every 12 months? This is ridiculous.

Have the P4s been speedbumped 1GHz in the past 12 months (which is a possibility for APPLE)? What about AMD? I don't think so. But I could be wrong.

If after a year the architecture is left alone and they are only bumped a modest 400-500 MHz then I will concur with your complaint. But we are looking at the possibility of a HUGE upgrade and revision. Personally, I prefer to see Apple get it right. :D
 
davetrow1997 said:
I can't stand it anymore. Will the individuals who are spelling LOSE with two Os please stop. It's killing me. Oh the humanity.

Loose (verb) to release, to let go, i.e. "let loose"
(adjective) not tight

LOSE is the proper spelling. Like, I'm going to LOSE my mind if people keep spelling it "loose." I will not "loose" my mind.

Feeling a bit stressed there dave? ;)

P.S. - I do, however, agree with yout point.
 
a17inchFuture said:
I predict in twenty years, apple wont even make computers anymore, and if they do, they'll be the worst in the market.

I believe they said something similar about Apple five years ago, and surprise ... they're still here!
 
MacRAND said:
......

Macs rule!
:cool:
.........
Excellent story, best post of the week for sure!

I'm not 50 yet (getting close to 30 though :eek: ) And my computer memories go back as far as the Commodore Vic-20 with it's 2k memory. The first word processing I’ve done was on my Commodore Amiga 500 (that I still have and still works!) This was also long before Windows 95 came out.

I'm not complaining about apple too much, but I do look forward to the Rev-B release. Maybe the upgrade from my current dual G4-867 Mhz might not be as significant as the upgrades you've had in the past with all those word processing systems, it will sure be worthwhile for me :p
 
jsw said:
The min/max G5 didn't change, no. But the middle is now nearly twice as fast as it was for anything capable of running on >1 CPU - and so would apply if merely running more than one app.

If the iMac suddenly came out as, say a 1.5 GHz G5, then I suppose that's merely a revision, since, of course, the best Mac would've stayed at dual-2 GHz.

Yes, there should be better/faster/cheaper ones by now, of course! But you can't say going from (1) 1.8 GHz G5 to (2) 1.8 GHz G5's isn't an update. If they came out with a quad 2.0, would that qualify? It's the same principle.

I believe "update" implies top of the line gets faster or better, along with the lower models. Apple just realized that the single 1.8 for $700 more than the single 1.6 was not selling well, and dropping from two dual machines at the top of the G4 line, to a single dual machine at the top of the G5 line was unwise in the first place. I believe the dual 1.8 was likely planned originally as the middle machine, but may have been released as a single because of a shortage of 1.8 chips or dual-config boards or some other unforeseen factor, but rather than delay the G5s altogether, Apple released it as a single so they could have a three machine line.
 
SpaceMusic_Guy said:
As far as the "Digi 001" goes, unless Apple changes the voltage signaling on their upcoming revision of the Power Mac, you NEVER will be able to use a Digi 001 with a G5. ...
I think it might work in the single 1.6 model. That machine has PCI slots instead of PCI-X, right?
 
Ari said:
I just wonder, who promised 2.4-2.6 GHz to be available in six months?

Was it SJ or mr. Rumor.

Commodore 128

Still have my Commodore 128. :D

<wonder if it has "antique" status, and thus could claim big bucks on the open market. - LOL>
 
AidenShaw said:
Pentium III 0.450 GHz - introduced 26 Feb 1999 (250 nm process)
Pentium III 1.400 GHz - introduced 8 Jan 2002 (130 nm process)
speedup 3.1x

Pentium 4 1.40 GHz 256 KiB cache - intro 20 Nov 2000 (180 nm process)
Pentium 4 3.40 GHz 1024 KiB cache - intro 2 Feb 2004 (90 nm process)
speedup 2.4x

PPC 970 2.0 GHz - intro
speedup 0x

Note:
P3 timeframe = 35 months
P4 timeframe = 39 months
G5 timeframe = >10 months

Let's see where we're at in another 25-29 months before we try THIS comparison. If Apple releases 3 GHz by September, we'll be at 1.5x in just 15 months, on pace to destroy the P4 by these numbers, and to equal or beat the P3 by the time we hit 3 years.
 
Ah the trusty Amiga...

Mac-Xpert said:
Excellent story, best post of the week for sure!

...The first word processing I’ve done was on my Commodore Amiga 500 (that I still have and still works!) This was also long before Windows 95 came out....

Mine still works too, And Sensible World of Soccer is the best game of all time.

The 1.6GHz G5 does have PCI.
 
Historically, even just one dual G5 2GHz PowerMac is a true super computer

cubist said:
Excellent story, MacRand. Beautiful!
Thanks.
Until I wrote that looong history of me growing up with the computer age, I really didn't realize how old I really am. But since today, March 31st, is my birthday, trust me, all my family and friends are really rubbing it in with delight.

Looking back when there was no such thing as a "personal computer" that an ordinary person could own, really not even an electronic hand held calculator, or an LED or LCD to look at, just expensive B&W TV monitors or burning wires for digits, I can hardly believe that it's been 60 years since the Navy literally found "bugs" screwing up their gigantic (calculator) computer (not plural) running on vacuum tubes circa 1944...and we think that Apple has seemingly insurmountable Heat Problems putting the G5 chip in a tiny PowerBook. :rolleyes: Thank God the Navy's WWII computer is older than I am today, unfortunately, not by much. At least, I'm still working.

In just a few years, we'll be burning 150 GB BluRay Tri-Layer holographic discs for HiDef video on our Macs with the latest SuperDrives, spinning hard drives will be relegated to duties in refrigerators, water heaters, and intelligent trash compactors, while 500 GB CompactFlash cards will stay the same size and shape, but will run at 320x speed (not todays 40x, soon to be 80x) providing affordable massive memory for laptops, Camcorders, and iPod MicroMinis (version 9), which will have a color screen, projected surround sound from 4 tiny Bose speakers, and derive power from cold fusion batteries the size of a dime that last 3 years between recharges.

Since I have already waited patiently for the future that has unfolded before my very eyes, I can sure wait a few puny months for the 2nd build of a 15" G5 PowerBook with 16x dual-layer DVD burning SuperDrive and 4 FireWire1600 ports. :cool: ZOOM!
 
MacRAND said:
Thanks.
Until I wrote that looong history of me growing up with the computer age, I really didn't realize how old I really am. But since today, March 31st, is my birthday, trust me, all my family and friends are really rubbing it in with delight.

Don't feel bad. A guy in the company next door turned 50 today. All the employees had t-shirts on that said Dave is 50 today on the front and Donated by AARP on the back.

Happy birthday!
 
rdowns said:
Don't feel bad. A guy in the company next door turned 50 today. All the employees had t-shirts on that said Dave is 50 today on the front and Donated by AARP on the back.

Happy birthday!

Happy B-Day MacRAND, I hope that you had a great day.

I'm a member of AARP. I actually joined when I was around 50.
 
Apple Resellers in Australia match US 23" deal

Apple Resellers in Australia match US 23" screen $800 AUD mailback when purchasing it with a G5...offer ends 26 June...

So I don't expect much for April...
 
UK

UK Apple store has followed suit offering £270 off. (Or 400Euros). So the discount matches the US discount. It would be lovely if the original prices of the diplays were equivalent to the US......

Thats a minimum of £3000 (with a G5 1.6) for a discount of less than 10%.
Whereas your $3800 gets you a 13% discount.

Why anyone would buy one of these from Apple UK is beyond me. You can save $1500 by getting this deal from the US. Way less than a day return to NY or somewhere to pick it up.
So much for valuing the UK market highly.
 
Brilliant savings in Europe

Yes, I was waiting for this.. and now a new powermac, and i'll be settled :)

No, seriously, there's something interesting in the promotion conditions..

(in dutch)
Deze aanbieding is alleen geldig bij aanschaf van een van de volgende configuraties:alle Apple Power Mac G5-computers die gedurende de actieperiode verkrijgbaar zijn .Apple beeldscherm: M8537ZM/A 23-inch flat-panel Apple Cinema HD Display.

Translation of the bold text:
"All Power Mac G5 models available during the period in which the promotion is valid".

Well..don't exactly know what this really means, but hey, enough to make me think we will still see new powermacs prior to WWDC!

And then, i'll get this 23" as well :D
 
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