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While that is true we are talking of a small sample size, I think the point is more and more of us are feeling that way and I think the number is growing every day. I was at AT&T a few weeks ago and while I was there I saw 2 or 3 people come in with iPhones looking for something new. People who are not on this forum and not Apple die hards. People tired of small screens, wanting better cameras, etc. I think one got talked back into iPhone to use iMessages with her kids on iPod's while another went over to look at the Nokia 1020.

Point is it's not really as small a sample size as you think anymore.
 
While that is true we are talking of a small sample size, I think the point is more and more of us are feeling that way and I think the number is growing every day. I was at AT&T a few weeks ago and while I was there I saw 2 or 3 people come in with iPhones looking for something new. People who are not on this forum and not Apple die hards. People tired of small screens, wanting better cameras, etc. I think one got talked back into iPhone to use iMessages with her kids on iPod's while another went over to look at the Nokia 1020.

Point is it's not really as small a sample size as you think anymore.
I agree. I think people browse carrier stores, see those large screens on other phones, and buy one of those. I'd be much more likely to upgrade in October to the next iPhone if it had a 4.3" or 4.5" screen.
 
I'm in the same boat. If the next iPhone doesn't have a bigger screen, I'm moving on to the S4.
 
I think people are just mystified by the larger screen on the samsung and the clever ads theyve been seeing lately.
They dont realize that really, the iphone functions better than the samsung. they dont realize it because they forget about it, it's become an expectation rather than a feature.
In contrast, smoothness is still a 'feature' on androids.

I personally would buy a larger screen iPhone. but I wouldnt swap to a samsung to get it. maybe a nexus 5, but not a touchwiz.
 
I agree. I think people browse carrier stores, see those large screens on other phones, and buy one of those. I'd be much more likely to upgrade in October to the next iPhone if it had a 4.3" or 4.5" screen.
I don't think it's the screen size as much as it is the "newest model" factor. Most people in the phone store, whatever the time of year, are those whose contracts are up now. Due to the normal Apple product cycle, the people in the phone stores in October and November are more likely to currently own an iPhone. They'll see a brand-new iPhone vs. "yesterday's" Samsung and HTC.

In the end, when a new model comes out, people decide whether, on the whole, it suits their needs. Personally? I wouldn't convert to a different OS simply for a larger screen - the pain of the learning curve, the pain of conversions and migration… No, a bigger screen isn't enough (and I like "smaller" in my pocket anyway). Of course, that's one data point, and only my clones and I will behave as I do. ;) Besides, since I have a 2.5 year-old 4, switching to a 5S is a move to a bigger screen.

There are, of course, people for whom screen size is the tipping point. There's nothing wrong with that. Considering Apple's historic retention rates (and the amount of market research the company does), I suspect big-screen switchers fall within the statistical norm for platform-switchers, or are so close to the norm that it's not necessary to rush an all-new form factor out one year after the last all-new form factor.

Come September 12, we'll see if the next iPhone has a sufficiently compelling package of features to keep most Apple fans in the fold, and attract new ones.
 
I'll go ahead and say that the people on this site overall represent more of the hardcore Apple fans than the average populous out there. We are all people who searched out an Apple forum and actually registered to participate in it. If you don't notice the growing number of threads talking about wanting a larger iPhone you are blind. And if that's what us Apple fans, who are more inclined to go with what Apples doing, are wanting more and more how much more do you think the general public who really doesn't care about iOS vs Android is moving towards larger phones? Of all the polls I've seen on here and other places I haven't found a single one where the majority of those participating wanted the iPhone to retain a 4" screen, every single poll shows more people want larger. Argue about sample size all you want but if you don't see this trend in the market you aren't paying attention. If Apple continues to completely ignore what more and more consumers want they will continue to loose market share.

I'm starting to feel those who only want a 4" screen and make fun of the 5" 'phablets' haven't ever really used a 5" phone beyond playing with one at Best Buy. If you actually take some time with one (at least a few days) I think most would have a hard time going back to a 4" iPhone screen, I know I do.
 
Some how to give up the Apple infrastructure that he is into for a bigger screen just seems strange. Not saying Android doesn't have some nice features and if only an iPhone then maybe the switch is no big deal but if you have iphones, mac computers, iPad and want to do things and not automatically sync stuff only for a larger screen. Plus any apps you have bought and need you are going to re-buy.
Just doesn't make sense to me.

What does the number of the phone make a difference anyway. He might as well just buy now and be done with the moaning about how Apple isn't keeping up
 
I'm in the same boat. If the next iPhone doesn't have a bigger screen, I'm moving on to the S4.

Same here. If the new iPhone doesn't have a bigger screen, I'm getting an S4. A gimmick like a fingerprint scanner isn't going to persuade me.
 
I for one am just disappointed Apple hasn't come out with a larger phone. It has nothing to do with waiting or stopping the moaning about Apple not listening to what more and more people are saying. I am still using an iPhone for the reasons given in the past few posts. I don't want the hassle of migrating to a new platform. Converting music that won't currently play on Android and getting things set up the way I want. I did try an S3 for a few days last year and returned it and switched back because it wasn't worth the hassle. Those barriers are seeming smaller and smaller though and I'm getting closer and closer to my tipping point. Come September 11th, I'll be making up my mind.
 
See, I went from a 4.5" Android, to a 3.5" one. I think that 4" would be the perfect size which is why I'm going back to iOS. It's not too cramped, but it's not too big.

iPad apps wouldn't work on a 5-6" screen. At least not the ones I use.
 
For me, I don't see the reason why Apple wouldn't make a larger screen iPhone. Yet this isn't just your brother in law. It's a lot of people including my parents who are extremely loyal to Apple.

I'm not complaining though, as I own both the iPhone 5 and the HTC One. However, if there's an option of getting a larger iPhone even at a higher price point, I'd definitely shift to that option.

Big screen is definitely not for everyone but the market for a screen larger than 4.3" definitely exists and it's a rather large market as well.
 
I find that when ever I move to android, once I've installed Roms, played with home launchers, enjoyed widgets, and customised the **** out of it - I want to come back to iPhone. My last switch was to HTC one for about two months and the same thing happened.
 
I was talking with my brother in law last night. He owns two 15-inch Macbook pros, iPads, and an iPhone 4s.

He expressed hope that this September's iPhone would be an iPhone 6 (main interest is in larger screen), and if it's an iPhone 5s internals-only update, he'll probably move to Samsung Galaxy. A 19 year old co-worker at my hospital said something similar two weeks ago.

I fear there are many others who share these thoughts. I know I've toyed with the idea the last several months, though I've remained loyal to Apple for ten years. I fear that Apple, whom I love as a company, is not reading the market either quickly enough or accurately, and their market share AND mind share is beginning to slip. Even companies as iconic and 'different' as Apple need to adapt to unexpected market changes; in this care - a clear desire by many users for larger screens.

If the iPhone 5s appears as rumoured Sept. 10, Apple will still sell millions, but I fear many will begin looking elsewhere.

Yeah.... That's not how corporations think, let alone successful corporations. They don't make products so they will "sell", they constantly aim to grow and innovate. Blackberry had that mentality and look where they are now.



I understand you might be an Apple loyal fan (and so am I) but you have to be open/understanding to what OTHER people want. You may be ok with a 4-inch screen but others want a bigger screen. Somebody saying they want a larger screen refers to them wanting 4.3-5" screen most of the time, this is just a ridiculous statement on your part.

this.


after so many years of the same people are getting pretty bored with iOS and the boredom only increases when full of bells and whistles android gets scrubbed in their face by friends, commercials and what not.

additionally, yes, the 3.5" and 4" displays are no match for the 4.7"+ for young people who use it for entertainment purposes.



and not everyone wants to have a phone AND a tablet (or cant afford it).

I myself will most likely start looking at other phones as well. I personally don't like the android software but with rooting and google play versions I think I could find something that would work for me.

Larger screen and a slice of key lime pie please.

I'm in the same boat. If the next iPhone doesn't have a bigger screen, I'm moving on to the S4.

I'll go ahead and say that the people on this site overall represent more of the hardcore Apple fans than the average populous out there. We are all people who searched out an Apple forum and actually registered to participate in it. If you don't notice the growing number of threads talking about wanting a larger iPhone you are blind. And if that's what us Apple fans, who are more inclined to go with what Apples doing, are wanting more and more how much more do you think the general public who really doesn't care about iOS vs Android is moving towards larger phones? Of all the polls I've seen on here and other places I haven't found a single one where the majority of those participating wanted the iPhone to retain a 4" screen, every single poll shows more people want larger. Argue about sample size all you want but if you don't see this trend in the market you aren't paying attention. If Apple continues to completely ignore what more and more consumers want they will continue to loose market share.

I'm starting to feel those who only want a 4" screen and make fun of the 5" 'phablets' haven't ever really used a 5" phone beyond playing with one at Best Buy. If you actually take some time with one (at least a few days) I think most would have a hard time going back to a 4" iPhone screen, I know I do.

Same here. If the new iPhone doesn't have a bigger screen, I'm getting an S4. A gimmick like a fingerprint scanner isn't going to persuade me.

If you folks that don't like a 4 inch screen, and will jump ship to an Android if apple does not go wider, why haven't you left yet ? No one is holding you back if you feel that Apple is not giving you what you want. Can't understand why you haven't left. :confused:
 
If you folks that don't like a 4 inch screen, and will jump ship to an Android if apple does not go wider, why haven't you left yet ? No one is holding you back if you feel that Apple is not giving you what you want. Can't understand why you haven't left. :confused:

I love this attitude that if you challenge the apple strategy of people want what we give them we must leave and never participate in this discussion forum again. :confused:

I thought we were discussing something pretty fundamental that a growing number of users want. This place would have a lot less participation if everyone just left as you suggest. You knew what this topic was about. If talking about it rubs you the wrong way don't open it. I'm not even suggesting apple drop the 4" size. I just feel like others that it only makes sense to offer 2 sizes like they do in the rest of their product line.
 
Looks like many people are sick of Apple doing a major revision every other year. I agree with them 100%
 
People are constantly posting, "I'm leaving Apple". But people are also posting, "This is my first iPhone" and "I left Apple and now I'm back" threads to.

I think it will all balance out and be ok.
 
If you folks that don't like a 4 inch screen, and will jump ship to an Android if apple does not go wider, why haven't you left yet ? No one is holding you back if you feel that Apple is not giving you what you want. Can't understand why you haven't left. :confused:

You misunderstand.

My concern is for Apple, as it's a company I care about and have loyalty to. Much like the Blackberry engineers that put their concerns in a public letter a year ago, I feel uneasy about Apple's slowness to adapt to a very-rapidly changing market. With Apple's vast resources they could be at the forefront, but instead it feels like they're either misreading the market or are comfortable with the status quo.

I don't want Apple to become another Sony or Blackberry.
 
I understand the brother in law's point of view. I would love the iPhone with a bigger screen. But what people fail to realize is that with a bigger screen, other problems begin to rise. Just to name the worst: battery life, apple has not been notoriously great in this area and increasing the screen while keeping the same form factor they won't be able to fit a larger battery in. Samsung can do this because there phones are a lot larger than the iPhone. I'm sure once this is figured out, we will have what we want. Just don't think that apple is delibertly not making larger screen phones. But I agree I would love to have a 4.5"-5" iPhone.
 
If you folks that don't like a 4 inch screen, and will jump ship to an Android if apple does not go wider, why haven't you left yet ? No one is holding you back if you feel that Apple is not giving you what you want. Can't understand why you haven't left. :confused:

Ahhh the Blackberry mindset. How that work out for them?
 
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