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Good I never liked the 17" iMac

So, you were never forced to buy it.

I can understand the design problems of a chinless 17" iMac (maybe), but other than that it seems highly sensible to have a lower-end iMac available for people just entering the market. Absent a nearly zero difference in price between a 17" and a 20", it seems very useful to retain three models, including a lower-priced, smaller 17"

Also, how about bringing back the VESA mount for all models?
 
Brushed metal imacs...uhhh thatd be cool; i suppose. I trust apple would make it beautiful, but still...kinda odd.
 
what about a mac micro?

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Precisely. A good number of people, myself included, find the extra real estate under the screen to be aesthetically displeasing. The only thing better than removing the chin entirely would be adding a 2nd, smaller screen (2 inches vertical that spans the width of the screen) where the current chin is now, and use said new screen as a way to always have the dashboard/dock visible without interfering with the main screen. This is an idea that is admittedly over-the-top and would likely add a significant amount to the price, but I think it fits in perfectly with Apple's innovation.

For anyone who hates the chin. The powersupply is down there. If they put it behind the screen, the iMac would have to be considerably thicker. Sorry, I doubt the chin is going anywhere. I think it's fine on the 24" anyway.
 
It IS called WWDC after all.....

Someone joked on Page 1 (too lazy to go back and quote them) that Steve couldn't possibly talk 90 minutes about Leopard.... Well Steve DID fill up 90 minutes talking about a frickin cell phone in January. :)

But honestly I would be surprised to see ANY machine updates at WWDC. It's a DEVELOPER's conference. That mainly entails software and what other than Operating Systems do developers need to be told about?

So being that it is a software show and also a show that happens to be right before the iPhone launch, here are my predictions for WWDC this year:

• Steve will discuss the iTunes Store (Plus, movies, shows, market share, etc...)
• Then he will lead into the :apple: tv (Discussing the new model)
• Steve will shift gears and discuss the iPhone and all of its features that he couldn't go over at MacWorld.
• Segue into Leopard. This will take the bulk of the time, maybe 45-50 minutes worth.
• After Leopard, we will get to see the iLife collection which will now be called iHome. Just my stupid guess on the name, because....
• ... the brand new iWork will be unveiled.
• Both iApp Suites will heavily incorporate Leopard's new secret features.
• End with some "little heard from" singer playing the guitar and singing his new single that's available in the iTunes Plus Store as of today.
 
For anyone who hates the chin. The powersupply is down there. If they put it behind the screen, the iMac would have to be considerably thicker. Sorry, I doubt the chin is going anywhere. I think it's fine on the 24" anyway.

Simple solution:

Make the power supply external like the Mini's or a laptop's. Problem solved.
 
Bring Back The Floaty Screen!!

My mom has an old "floaty screen"/"sunflower"/whatever you want to call it and I REALLY don't wanna get her a new one because she uses it's ability to turn side to side, cant up and down and go higher/lower. It would really hinder her usage to get her a one that only cant's. Of course I'm not in the market for a desktop as I doubt I'll ever buy a desktop again - laptops are just so powerful and I don't really care about having a massive huge screen... But please - Apple - allow for more than just the canting of the screen - it can't be that hard - you did it before!!
 
i believe that prediction of WWDC is just about spot on! way to predict the predictable ;) but seriously, that makes a lot of sense, hpefully, if we are lucky, focus on lucky, at least one new hardware device or at LEAST update!
 
Mac Biz model coming?

If they're moving the iMac upscale a bit, perhaps Apple will finally release a Mac with features that would make Macs attractive to business desktops where the Mac mini is too little, the iMac too pretty (and inflexible) and the Mac Pro too much (and too large). Call it the Mac Business (or Mac Biz) to make the marketing message clear as possible. It'd signal that Apple is serious about courting the large business market.

Suggest specs:

* Room for two easily changed full-sized hard drives. With Time Machine coming, two is a must. Businesses will like the auto-backup.

* Four easily accessed RAM slots. Ship with 1 or 2 gig of memory as 1-gig modules so adding doesn't mean tossing anything out.

* Core Duo, Santa Rosa chip set, naturally.

* Inexpensive graphics card with dedicated RAM for graphics. Nothing fancy, just not shared RAM.

* Ports to drive two monitors. What the graphic cards can do, the hardware should support. Two monitors gives more screen real estate for less and lets users step up, using an older, small display with a newer, larger one.

* Ship without a keyboard, mouse or monitor. That allows workers to have their own preferences. Pass along the cost savings. Businesses don't like to discard. IBM beat their competition in the 1950s and 1960s because they let companies gradually move from punched card to digital systems.

* Built-in power supply.

* Bluetooth built-in. WiFi optional at a reasonable price. At some business, WiFi raises security issues. And don't sweat the absence of a camera or built-in mike. That's another security issue. Adding them doesn't cost that much for those who need it.

* Modest size without being Mac mini tiny. No need for something that wins design awards. That just makes the boss suspicious that he's paying too much. And make it quiet.

* Perhaps offer an option with OEM Windows (Vista or XP) in some virtual configuration. That'd help companies transition.

* No high/low end models with different CPU speeds so close togethre, they hardly matter. Just one core model with numerous Dell-like options. Pass along the inventory savings.

* Beat Dell at its own game. Make some options so easy to add (a second HD, RAM, WiFi), that users or computer staff can do it themselves rather than have them Apple-installed. Pass along the inventory & labor savings.

* Give it to us about the time Leopard comes out.

Remember, the more people using Macs at work, the more they'll buy and use them at home.

--Mike Perry, Inkling Books, Seattle
 
The problem I see is in the aluminum. The Macbook Pro and Mac Pro's getting crappy reception as it is...with the Macbooks and iMacs with better WiFi reception because of the plastic vs. aluminum. I sure hope that is addressed...
 
i believe that prediction of WWDC is just about spot on! way to predict the predictable ;) but seriously, that makes a lot of sense, hopefully, if we are lucky, focus on lucky, at least one new hardware device or at LEAST update!
I hope so too. I get that it's the WWDC and that it should all be about software, blah, blah. But he did spend 80% of his MacWorld keynote talking about a phone. He could spend some time at the WWDC to intro the new iMac and then use it to demo Leopard and all the other iSoftware apps predicted... I think an iMac intro would fit in nicely.
 
but changing the whole line material wise I think would be a mistake. The white plastic is a signature to consumers, like the earbuds on an iPod.

Yes, but there was a time when the white plastic of the iPod was an Apple "signature" and look how that changed. Now, only one model is even available in white, and it seems like the black version sells better (speculative just based on what I've seen people buying/carrying).
 
If they're moving the iMac upscale a bit, perhaps Apple will finally release a Mac with features that would make Macs attractive to business desktops where the Mac mini is too little, the iMac too pretty (and inflexible) and the Mac Pro too much (and too large). Call it the Mac Business (or Mac Biz) to make the marketing message clear as possible. It'd signal that Apple is serious about courting the large business market.
--Mike Perry, Inkling Books, Seattle

a'la Apple III!:eek:
 
Save the 17"

I'm not happy at all about the (potential) discontinuation of the 17" iMac. For those of us with small desks and cramped quarters, 17" is more than big enough. I don't even know where I would put a new 20" iMac. As for the "chin," I don't even notice it. I'm too busy staring at the screen. I like the fact that the monitor isn't too wide so as to obscure the rest of my workspace. Its height doesn't matter one whit.
 
Someone joked on Page 1 (too lazy to go back and quote them) that Steve couldn't possibly talk 90 minutes about Leopard.... Well Steve DID fill up 90 minutes talking about a frickin cell phone in January. :)

But honestly I would be surprised to see ANY machine updates at WWDC. It's a DEVELOPER's conference. That mainly entails software and what other than Operating Systems do developers need to be told about?

So being that it is a software show and also a show that happens to be right before the iPhone launch, here are my predictions for WWDC this year:

• Steve will discuss the iTunes Store (Plus, movies, shows, market share, etc...)
• Then he will lead into the :apple: tv (Discussing the new model)
• Steve will shift gears and discuss the iPhone and all of its features that he couldn't go over at MacWorld.
• Segue into Leopard. This will take the bulk of the time, maybe 45-50 minutes worth.
• After Leopard, we will get to see the iLife collection which will now be called iHome. Just my stupid guess on the name, because....
• ... the brand new iWork will be unveiled.
• Both iApp Suites will heavily incorporate Leopard's new secret features.
• End with some "little heard from" singer playing the guitar and singing his new single that's available in the iTunes Plus Store as of today.

I'm not going to write up a better agenda, but I can guarantee that this aint' it.
 
Thanks for the history lesson :rolleyes:

Point is, Apple doesn't care if it's iconic or whatever, they're eventually going to redesign it. If anyone thinks differently, they're being dim. You could say the MacPro design is iconic (hey, they kept the G5 design and everything!) But eventually, it will change. As simple as that.

A) Don't quote history if your not prepared to learn from it. ;)

B) your posts cancel each other out. You say apple changes everything and "If anyone thinks differently, they're being dim" yet you sight how the Tower design lasted almost identically through the first G5 (2004) will into the Intel switch and adopting two processors (woodcrest and now Clovertown). Add to that the mini never really changed since it's release and neither has the Powerbook/MacBookPro (not counting the iSight) in quite some time, yet they both had significant upgrades since the introduction of their current look.

I know there is a really good chance that there will be a new design unveiling for the iMac, but the idea that "Apple doesn't care if it's iconic" is dim in itself. The reason Apple is where it is and is who it is is due to the fact that they DO recognize when something is iconic and let it evolve (that's why the full size iPod isn't every colour in the rainbow). Maybe if you paid attention to history you would sound like you know what your talking about instead of saying things like "But eventually, it will change. As simple as that." when it's not that simple as apple has a track record of showing us that.
 
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