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I completly agree with you on that one, same thing with me ive got my powerbook wich ive been useing as a desktop for about the last year hooked up to god knows how many things. I am really hopping for an update soon though, this imac update should help me gage weather or not its worth the upgrade to the macpro.
If you're using a Powerbook now and that's enough for you, albeit limiting your portability of said machine, upgrading to a Mac Pro would be like taing a demolition ball to a walnut, surely? Not to mention the addition of around a grand on top of the iMac price...

But I take your point about specs - the iMac is typically JUST underpowered in at least one department compared to what one would like.
 
Such a long thread....was this iMac image already posted ?

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Found it on http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/apple/index.html

I don't think so..but I wish you hadn't. :(
 
The MacBook Pro has 2 GB ram - why shouldn't the iMac get that? And, it would be more relevant with a 500 GB disk than a "small" 250.

Considering the iMac shared specs with the MacBook Pro, here's my two cents on what the new line will look like:

iMac 20"
- Core 2 Duo 2,2 GHz or 2,4 GHz
- 1 GB DDR2, max 4GB DDR2
- 250 GB 7200rpm, max 750 GB 7200rpm
- GeForce 8400M GT 128 MB or 256 MB
€1299,-

iMac 24"
- Core 2 Duo 2,4 GHz
- 1 GB DDR2, max 4GB DDR2
- 250 GB 7200rpm, max 750 GB 7200rpm
- GeForce 8400M GT 128 MB or 8600M GT 256 MB
€1699,-
 
A shame, then, that a 24" screen is just stupidly, crazily big. Way too big to sit in front of at a regular desktop distance (ie 18 or so inches) for any period of time. You have to physically move your head to see from one side to the other without giving yourself eyestrain.

People clamouring for 30" really blow my mind. How far away are their monitors???
 
That image of Mac there with the Pink ALU actually looks kinda cool, though personally pink would not be my first choice ;) i still hope that they keep them white.

But id like Apple to release a high-mid end iMac.... that is a mac for someone who wants a proper entertainment center to rival a PC, so higher spec graphics (and upgradable!) without having to go the whole hog with their professional systems.
 
Originally Posted by Cloudsurfer
Considering the iMac shared specs with the MacBook Pro, here's my two cents on what the new line will look like:

iMac 20"
- Core 2 Duo 2,2 GHz or 2,4 GHz
- 1 GB DDR2, max 4GB DDR2
- 250 GB 7200rpm, max 750 GB 7200rpm
- GeForce 8400M GT 128 MB or 256 MB
€1299,-

iMac 24"
- Core 2 Duo 2,4 GHz
- 1 GB DDR2, max 4GB DDR2
- 250 GB 7200rpm, max 750 GB 7200rpm
- GeForce 8400M GT 128 MB or 8600M GT 256 MB
€1699,-

For that price I'd certainly hope it would have something better than a £30 GeForce 8400 in it!!
 
You are not wrong my friend. Unless the iMac has suddenly been given a pair of dual core processors and the ability to take 16 Gb of ram.

So, aside from the new design (possibly), there's not really going to be that much of a compelling reason to upgrade/delay purchase of current build iMacs? I mean, the graphics card doesn't seem to be all that great of an improvement from the current model. Since the games thing was mentioned at WWDC last month, I still think that we're gonna see more RAM and at the very least, the same graphics card that's in the MBP.

But, who knows - it's all speculation. Maybe there's a machine coming in aimed at gaming? A long shot but not outside the realms of extreme impossibility.
 
But, who knows - it's all speculation. Maybe there's a machine coming in aimed at gaming? A long shot but not outside the realms of extreme impossibility.

Not impossible, but don't count on the machine being marketed for gamers. Apple just doesn't seem to market to the gaming market.
 
Not impossible, but don't count on the machine being marketed for gamers. Apple just doesn't seem to market to the gaming market.

Not previously but it seems now they might be starting too...:cool:

The thing that struck me about the WWDC keynote, was the id demo... its all well and good getting "next gen" support but right now only the pro systems are running graphics cards above a 7600 GT. Which, even now, is weaksauce. Definatly not something id expect to see next gen games running under.

New iMacs need something in the 8800 or 2900 range! If you have a 24" screen on your imac, be nice to play your games at a resolution near to its native res. :confused: IMO games are a major part of PC's nowerdays, and the lack of proper support hardware wise on mid-range Mac's just serves to lose customers that might otherwise be willing to give them a try.
 
IMO games are a major part of PC's nowerdays, and the lack of proper support hardware wise on mid-range Mac's just serves to lose customers that might otherwise be willing to give them a try.

True, very true. I found it ironic that in the South Park episode "Make Love not Warcraft" they were all playing on iMacs. I guess the creators are :apple: fans.
 
Are you guys still waiting?

I bought an imac 24 when you started talking about the update back in March. That was almost 4 month ago. It has been a great 4 month of daily use, with this amazing machine

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Imac 24 3gig ram
 
I bought an imac 24 when you started talking about the update back in March. That was almost 4 month ago. It has been a great 4 month of daily use, with this amazing machine

Ha, just goes to show how waiting sometimes isn't a good idea. However, I honestly believe that buying now would be a bad idea. I'm glad you were able to start enjoying yours.:)
 
Hmm, you know I saw my first iMac G5/Intel design (Yeah I am that new, and I went in that blind) in person at a college tour (Full Sail) and I have to say I hate the chin so much. After looking at the Apple displays and seeing the iMac, the chin overwhelms the screen, it makes it look fullscreen and small. I hope it's gone. The couple iMac G4's I have seen in person were far better, IMO.

Before today I would have said I would hate a brushed metal iMac, but I have to say I would love one after seeing the new MBP's in person, the metal aspect is not overwhelming like I thought it would be, and it's really a nice subtle difference from the screen, where I could see being distracted by the white of the iMac, but that's just me. (Like I prefer black electronics because they counter the screen's brightness, if you catch what I'm saying)
 
Very interesting...I guess that's why there's so much Apple product placement in South Park episodes. Frankly though, there are a lot more Macs on TV and in movies than PCs. I think it's an industry standard.

Perhaps because the Mac's particular strongpoints (media & editing) are what that industry seeks, and therefore what they use?
 
You see...

If you're using a Powerbook now and that's enough for you, albeit limiting your portability of said machine, upgrading to a Mac Pro would be like taing a demolition ball to a walnut, surely? Not to mention the addition of around a grand on top of the iMac price...

But I take your point about specs - the iMac is typically JUST underpowered in at least one department compared to what one would like.

the thing is, I do video editing and i've been planing on getting a macpro for some time now and i've been debating between the macpro 24" imac and the 17" mbp, but since the macpro is in mid product cycle right now and the imac's are overdue, I think its worth the wait to see if the new 24" fits my needs, if it supports 4gigs of ram and a better graphics card i don't see any reason why not get that.
 
There's no way that both 20" and 24" iMac models will come with anything less than 2GB RAM. I just can't see that happening.

I don't think Apple will, to be honest. The iMac is still geared towards the general public. A public that mostly doesn't need 2GB of memory. Those who do need it they'll just charge a €180 premium. You know as well as I do that Apple selects the best memory and charges a premium for that. There's a reason the MacBook Pro starts at €1899.

As for my choice for the 8400M GT: according to benchmarks, it performs about as good (or bad) as the X1600. And that's fine, for most. It does everything, except heavy gaming, with relative ease. The 8600M GT will, as I believe, only be a BTO on the 24" model, as that's the most likely candidate to make it into office enviroments for heavy photoshopping/video editing/3D modelling. I'm not sure how the 8600M GT performs in gaming, but I think it fares alright.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a higher end card in the 20" model, but since when did Apple do what we want?
 
im sorry did you say that the 8600M GT performs are good/bad as the x1600?!!?? from what i can tell its a hell of a lot faster. every single test ive seen on them is really positive compared to the x1600.

8600
3DMark03: 10840
3DMark05: 6029
3DMark06: 3323

X1600, scores as follows:

3DMark03: 8000
3DMark05: 3500
3DMark06: 1800


abouts 65% more power :)

Edit: just found out that the normal clocked version of the 8600 is about 90% faster than the x1600, especially in the higher res areas.
 
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