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Regulators need to work out why OEMs are using android rather than creating their own OSes and ecosystems. Then outlaw that to encourage them to create competing products.
 
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That really wouldn’t do anything as the internet will work the same regardless. Let them get and keep the $$$.
The internet might work the same, but millions of Apple's customers would stick with whatever default Apple sets on iOS. You'd think Apple's big talk on privacy would push them to offer DuckDuckGo as the default, but as usual Apple applies their claimed virtues only when doing so isn't at odds with whatever choice makes them the most money.
 
"Apple became a very successful company by innovating and creating awesome technologies"

Yep and then Tim Cook took over.

"No one is really locked into the walled garden."

Im sorry but that simply is not true and I don't have the time go into it. You can start with iMessages.. which is extremely hard to get away from in the states if your whole family uses Apple.
Messages is sms compatible- so it doesn’t matter who or what platform you’re texting from or too. It’s not really a lock in. Not compared to messaging apps like signal or WhatsApp, where you must actually have the app.
 
A viable competitor against Apple and Google in the smartphone field would be great. Lower prices, better features, and less lock-in. I'd probably still stick with Apple, but we'd all benefit.

That said, the way to get there is not through regulations drafted by government bureaucrats.

While I agree, thinking Apple and Google will allow "us to get there" is laughable at best.
 
The internet might work the same, but millions of Apple's customers would stick with whatever default Apple sets on iOS. You'd think Apple's big talk on privacy would push them to offer DuckDuckGo as the default, but as usual Apple applies their claimed virtues only when doing so isn't at odds with whatever choice makes them the most money.
You would have a point if the only option was Google. But it’s not, so you don’t.
 
They're the only two successful companies in mobile platforms because they're the only two that make anything people want. If you want to beat them, make something better. Keep government out of this ****. They **** up enough stuff as it is.
 
But then, Apple was established back in 1970s, so a good 30 years passed since then and iPhone alone exists in market for 20+ years. All these time are just something a startup could not compete in a timely manner Without some dirty tricks. So yeah, another disruptor in the smartphone market is highly unlikely nowadays.

iPhone has been around 14-15 or so years... Apple at the time was doing ok, not like they are now. Yes, Apple has been around for over 50 years... but are new to the smart phone/phone market.
 
They're the only two successful companies in mobile platforms because they're the only two that make anything people want. If you want to beat them, make something better. Keep government out of this ****. They **** up enough stuff as it is.
Completely agree. People don’t seem to understand the reasons for governments to do this. It’s not what they’re saying, it’s not to help us in any way shape or form. It’s naive to believe that, as many here championing it seem to.
The end game to gain control over our data which is currently kept in varying degrees of security by Apple or Google. Governments want to ban encryption in its current form. They would love nothing more than to be able to access anything they want when they want. That’s the plan. Not to enable competition. It’s laughably clear.
 
No it wasn't. Before Apple and Google the best smartphone was Palm and that wasn't very smart really. Unless you think that flip-phone was "mature".

Are you forgetting about Rim and Blackberry, which had their own eco system and were the standard for phones with keyboards and their own messaging systems? I didn't say anything about smart, please re-read what I said and typed. I said phone. The phone market was mature. Flip phone, slide phone, regular phone, etc were all in play at the time, and weather they are smart or not is neither here nor there since technology has evolved a little since then.
 
“Lock-in” has become a meme. Countless people switch back & forth between Android & iOS all the time. There’s no lock-in, just laziness.
Right, I guess Microsoft was just lazy and so thats why Windows Phone died.

The market will likely not support more than the duopoly. Developers don't want more platforms to have to support. Switching between iOS and Android might be simple for you if you haven't a ton of time and money already invested in one or the other, but thats not how either Google or Apple (especially Apple) work.. they take every advantage to lock you in. At least with Google they allow side loading, and they create all their apps for iOS, etc...
 
No it wasn't. Before Apple and Google the best smartphone was Palm and that wasn't very smart really. Unless you think that flip-phone was "mature".
From what I have heard that Handspring group that Palm acquired was a really small group of engineers. They didn’t have nearly the resources that Apple had.
 
That you can change. Stop being dramatic.
Nobody said you couldn’t change it. Stop arguing against a point that wasn’t even made. The point is that Apple’s self-proclaimed privacy stance would dictate they use DuckDuckGo as the default. But they don’t because they’d rather take the $$$.
 
I'm excited I'll be able to put a Whirlpool spinner in my Samsung washing machine.
If it fits, you can, there is nothing stopping you. There are third-party parts available for washing machines, but the spinner rarely breaks, it’s usually the heater, motor or the springs holding the spinner.
 
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I want bureaucrats to make mobile platforms general purpose computing platforms like a PC or Mac is, if the user wants so (thus you could stay in the walled garden if you want).
Is your TV a general purpose computing platform? Your car's infotainment system? Smart speaker? Game console? Digital Camera? WiFi Router?
 
Nobody said you couldn’t change it. Stop arguing against a point that wasn’t even made. The point is that Apple’s self-proclaimed privacy stance would dictate they use DuckDuckGo as the default. But they don’t because they’d rather take the $$$.
But of course it about the money. But that’s irrelevant to what you’re suggesting. If the option is presented to choose your search engine when you first launched safari, do you think that many people will opt for something other than Google? Google’s relevance in this field has nothing to do with Apple. I say take the money.

As I said, if they were being paid to keep Google as the only option, you would have a point. But they aren’t, so you don’t.
 
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I don’t think anyone on macrumours who is in favour of such government intervention over a businesses product and livelihood actually runs their own business. Becuase if they did, and the government started dictating to you how or what you did, when you did it and how much you charged for it, I think you would see it differently.

Of course though, it’s not that. It’s just anti Apple sentiment. That’s all, and that’s why it’s always funny to read these threads about the same old posters jumping over themselves to prove some kind of point.
 
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