I rather like the idea that google pays apple so much to be the default search engine and I then promptly change the default to DuckDuckGo. Anything that bleeds google dry!
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'Brutal Battle' Expected as Regulators Close in on Apple Around the World
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Global regulators want total power and control over everyone and their data. Apple are so far standing in their way. That is the issue as I see it.
This guy gets it. Seems he's in the minority around there though.
It's funny that you can't substantiate a claim that Apple is exaggerating it's claim about privacy as it would mean revealing their secrets. Ironic that.
But...........I have ZERO doubt that Apple exaggerates this and MANY other things.
Even worse you can bet if they forced apple to open up, they would then be whining about the hot mess and lack of privacy controls in the app market on iOS devices a few years later. Windows phone is a perfect example of consumer choice. MS didn't fail because they were too small to stand up to Apple (sure they are "smaller" but they're a 750lb gorilla next to apple's 800lb gorilla, probably not a significant difference). All the players are the time the iPhone came out could have switched over to iPhone like models but they chose to be disrupted. You can't beat apple up for having passed the blackberries of the world who kept saying that phones without physical keyboards would fail. The charging cable mandate might make sense for improving consumers' lives (emphasis: might) but regulating the ecosystems will be a disaster
Before Apple and Google entered the market, the cell phone market was mature. The smartphone market was still in its relative infancy. While it’s easy to conflate them, they are two different but somewhat overlapping markets. In the same way that the automobile replaced the horse as the standard for transportation, smartphones replaced cellphones for communication.
Did they regulate or punish Facebook, Cambridge Analytica, crypto scam companies, Murdoch Media, Thiel network, Putin network for all their crimes?
No they rewarded them for years.
Gave them contracts!! Sold to them land, mansions, islands, cheap politiXian’s.
These blood drinking villains twisted so many minds, manipulated billions of people, stole 100s of billions of dollars from so many people, spied on citizens, blackmailed and bribed politicians, demanded weaker privacy, sold data to dictators.
Now they bribe people to break companies like Apple.
They want to break the security and privacy of phones completely.
All this dirty lobbying and dark money must be revealed.
Otherwise ours lives will be zero privacy and without privacy comes the worst censorship and oppression. The people who preach ‘freedom maximalism’ today are just liars. They want religious fascism and it can’t happen unless they can look deep into our private lives.
No they rewarded them for years.
Gave them contracts!! Sold to them land, mansions, islands, cheap politiXian’s.
These blood drinking villains twisted so many minds, manipulated billions of people, stole 100s of billions of dollars from so many people, spied on citizens, blackmailed and bribed politicians, demanded weaker privacy, sold data to dictators.
Now they bribe people to break companies like Apple.
They want to break the security and privacy of phones completely.
All this dirty lobbying and dark money must be revealed.
Otherwise ours lives will be zero privacy and without privacy comes the worst censorship and oppression. The people who preach ‘freedom maximalism’ today are just liars. They want religious fascism and it can’t happen unless they can look deep into our private lives.
By mobile phone manufacturers AND operating system availability. Symbian, PalmOS, WebOS, Windows Mobile, iOS, Android, Blackberry, a healthier market without monopoly.
Nokia was always competiting with Motorola and Blackberry and had no monopoly, simply as that. You could even sideload(install) Applications from outside their store.
Do you believe you have the definitive answer to that question? Citations? Since Apple is so concerned about privacy, maybe they should offer a choice on setup, denoting DuckDuckGo as the privacy-focused option for the benefit of their customers and the maintenance of their privacy.
It's good that progress is being made. This is now inevitable. The end result will be better for Apple and for consumers. But it will take some time.
It would be great if Apple would tackle this problem in a proactive and creative way, but I guess that's not happening. Instead, big Tim Cook Apple will fight the change we need every inch of the way. Unfortunately there will be 0 cooperation.
It would be great if Apple would tackle this problem in a proactive and creative way, but I guess that's not happening. Instead, big Tim Cook Apple will fight the change we need every inch of the way. Unfortunately there will be 0 cooperation.
Oh ok, so NOT by consumer experience which is objectively better now. Just want to make sure since the regulators say this is 'for the consumers'.
Consumers obviously didn't prefer what that "healthier" market was offering in terms of products.
Why do you feel there is some inherent human right to "lower prices" that needs to be legislated? Besides the OS/iOS are free; hard to be lower than that.
Nothing prevents anybody from developing and manufacturing their own OS or electronic product.
Well a horse is not a car. A smartphone is a cellphone.
I need to prove to you, with a citation, that Google is the most popular search engine? Ermmm.
You will probably be surprised to learn that I agree with you. I just don’t agree with your premise that Apple are somehow hypocritical for taking the money, whilst still transparently offering a choice of search options. As I said. If they were forcing Google, then yep. But that’s not the case. So nope.
A smartphone has cellphone functionality, but it is far more than just a cellphone.
“An iPod, a phone, an internet mobile communicator... these are NOT three separate devices! And we are calling it iPhone!”
-Steve Jobs
That wasn’t the question. Reread and try again.
Yes, because the pivotal moment for Apple to become what they are today was (besides the return of Steve Jobs) when Microsoft and their entire conglomerate was week because of years of litigation and regulation.
I have never felt "locked in" to iOS or macOS. I use both because I feel they are the best solutions.
I don't need governments to "help" me.
I don't need governments to "help" me.
It’s a cell phone with added functionality. It’s not a new product like the difference between a horse and a car.
I don’t need to try again, and you don’t need to be so smarmy. You can just have a proper conversation, and you could, quite easily, see where I am coming from without agreeing with me, as I have done for you. But you won’t, because your agenda won’t allow you such compromises. Apple bad, regardless.
Duopoly? Oh no!
I'm still waiting for these same European regulators to breakup the 2009 Nokia monopoly.
I believe Symbian had around 45% to 50% of the global mobile OS market in 2009 (with several other players making up the rest) and I assume it was higher in Europe. However, dominating a market is not itself illegal. The legal issues come in if there are (alleged) antitrust/anticompetitive violations. Was Nokia doing anything "illegal" from an antitrust/anticompetitive perspective in 2009 to warrant a breakup of the company?
Or they achieved, maintain and/or try to expand their dominance through illegal antitrust/anticompetitive behavior. A reason why antitrust laws exist are to make sure dominant companies don't illegally exploit their dominance. Otherwise, there is no point in having antitrust laws and regulations.
🤣 You’re definitely wrong my dear, the thing is, not everybody puts greediness above anything else.
Anyway, same goes to the medical sector.
Their patents expires, and it’s good that way, they should expire even quicker in my opinion.
Humanity well-being goes beyond personal interests and needs to be regulated and secured. The ones who does not agree can still stop inventing stuff to exploit government resources a.k.a. citizens.
Nobody is forcing them to sell stuff that way, exorbitant growth comes with additional market regulations and responsibilities, that’s what Apple is facing now, they have chosen that route. Stay small, healthy and carefree, being big is not always an advantage.
The trouble is the very things people accuse Apple of using to maintain dominance are the same things people were cheering for when they were first released (App Store in 2008 and iMessage in 2011). I find the whole ‘different rules apply’ when you are a big company very problematic.
Just y’all wait until the “global regulators” start trying to meddle with the scope of CSAM when it is implemented. If it hasn’t already been. I think I’m gonna stay in a holding pattern with iOS 15 and just ignore the nagging. The time is approaching when updating to the latest OS on any device is going to be a mistake. That time may not be right now but things move real fast. Regulators gonna regulate.
Pleare rais a hand, who would not like interoperability? Who would not like to be able to move books, movies, apps, subscriptions, between devices and operating systems?