Budget Smartphone Comparison: Google's $449 Pixel 6a vs. Apple's $429 iPhone SE

Just curious, what was the % for your Pixel 4a for when it "just worked"?
It wasn't my Pixel 4a, it was an Employee's phone I was working on that had stopped receiving company email. So while I can't say how often it "just works" clearly it is probably under 99%.

My experience with the Moto X and X2 back in the day I'd say was 85%, Android then just didn't integrate well for a Mac User except through Chrome and Google Cloud. Though I don't think I would have rated the iPhone at the time at 99+% either. Both platforms have matured a lot.
 
It is fascinating to me that Apple still sells such an outdated form factor. I hope they will switch to the iPhone 12/13 mini body for the next SE.
Personally I'm gonna keep buying the iPhone that has TouchID as long as Apple keeps making them. I just don't like the faceID experience. Thankfully my 2nd gen iPhone SE still has at least 4 years of life left in it.. I had the original SE from 2016 to 2020 and I would have kept it even longer before giving it away (since I love the small size) but I really wanted a water proof phone.
 
Hmm didn’t know the 6a was only $449. Maybe I’ll upgrade my sister’s pixel 3 (?) come Christmas time…
 
Apple need to move the SE line to full front larger screens. The SE line is looking super tired. It’s the only product that Apple make that looks cheap.
There is a very sizable portion of the market that simply doesn’t want to learn FaceID and I don’t blame them. I’m hoping to get both my parents on an SE soon to replace their 6s and 8. They know how to use it, and I do enough tech support at work to not need to show them FaceID, gestures, etc.

It’s the “boomer phone” and the look of it has absolutely no bearing on these kinds of users, they want familiarity and comfort.
 
There is a very sizable portion of the market that simply doesn’t want to learn FaceID and I don’t blame them. I’m hoping to get both my parents on an SE soon to replace their 6s and 8. They know how to use it, and I do enough tech support at work to not need to show them FaceID, gestures, etc.

It’s the “boomer phone” and the look of it has absolutely no bearing on these kinds of users, they want familiarity and comfort.
It's 2022. Everybody (but Apple) is using underscreen fingerprint sensor.
 
I prefer the design and form factor of the SE. The smaller size is one of the primary reasons the product line was created in the first place. Is it outdated? Sure, but it still looks good, and those bezels everyone loves to complain about actually serve a useful purpose when viewing content in landscape mode: your thumbs comfortably rest on top and stay out of the way.

The display could use an update, but a lower powered display that’s pushing less pixels actually has its performance advantages. And are you really using a display of this size to do a lot of visual work? Probably not. Again, it still looks good.. nice wide color gamut.. and text is crisp and easy to read.
 
I think the 2022 SE is a miss, personally. The 2020 SE made sense, like a souped up 8. The 2022 is just… stale. It’s a 2020 with 5G and an extra GB of RAM.

That being said, I can’t recommend an Android over iOS until Android figures out an adequate way to update devices after 3 years.
 
MR braggin on that “superior” Touch ID button! I guess there’s a first time for everything.

But for the rest of it, **** all, the SE is plenty good. Folks got some funny priorities.
 
It is fascinating to me that Apple still sells such an outdated form factor. I hope they will switch to the iPhone 12/13 mini body for the next SE.
Timmy has parts bins to empty! It boggles my mind with the contempt they treat the iPhone SE and 'student' iPad with. The hardware lineup these days is nowhere near as strong/clean cut as it used to be, they've gone the way that I used to give Microsoft a hard time for.
 
I don't doubt that the Pixel 6a is a better phone than the SE, but the pseudo bokeh effect on the 6a just looks awful. I'm surprised that Google's cloud processing isn't better than it appears to be.
Software DOF is terrible. I'm surprised Apple is still shipping theirs the way it is now, even on their "Pro" phones it's a dog.
 
One does not have to be a tech enthusiast to appreciate larger screen (at the given phone size). SE design is an embarrassment.
One can also be a tech enthusiast and appreciate a smaller display (and features like TouchID).

The SE3 is powered by the same chip as the “Pro” models, and battery life has improved, so as far as I’m concerned, it’s up to date where it counts. The design being an “embarrassment” is overly dramatic assessment and sounds more like a personal problem for an insecure middle schooler or high schooler.

9 times out of 10, no one cares what phone you’re carrying around.
 
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I'll repeat myself every time the topic comes up: The iPhone SE isn't Apple's phone intended to compete with other midrange phones; that's the $499 iPhone 11, which has exactly what you'd expect from a budget phone: Slower CPU, less storage, not-as-nice screen, older-model camera, no 5G. Yes, it costs more than the competitor's lower-end phones. That's not surprising, it's how Apple rolls.

The SE is an outlier that's clearly not designed like a bottom-end device. It has an incongruently top-of-line CPU (two versions newer than the 11), 5G (unlike the 11), and up to 256GB storage (twice what you can get in the 11) in a 7-year-old form factor with an old-school button. It might be Apple's cheapest phone, but everything about it is designed as a fully modern phone for people who "just want a phone like my old one" or are change-averse for whatever reason and actually want it to look like that.

If the SE was really just supposed to be cheap, then Apple would have put a slightly older CPU in it and/or cut corners on the storage so they could get the price to $399 and not make it way higher-specc'd than the 11 that price-wise sits above it in the model lineup. It's not like someone settling for an incongruently old-style phone to save a few bucks will care that much about processor speed and 5G.

The only reason you'd slap a brand-new CPU, 5G modem, and up to 256GB storage into an anachronistic form factor is to make sure it'll be able to stay in service as long as possible, and because you're expecting people to buy it because of the old-school design, not in spite of it.

Not to say that there aren't some people who will buy one solely because it's $70 cheaper than the 11, but it just makes no sense as a product unless it's designed for people who want it to look like that.
 
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