Me too, what Bungie is currently producing is not for me and from what I gather not very good. Worse Arc Raiders is coming up and getting well received
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bungie rebooting Marathon
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I played Borderlands 1 and 2 with my Grandson. It was fun more from a coop standpoint than an RPG. I don't think I'd play it solo, it's shallow. There are places you go because you need things, people and critters you fight so forth and so on. We used to fight over, well not fight over but keep close track of weapons specs and sharing equitably.
The weapons in this game, the characteristic of the weapon (shock, fire, acid, etc) had much more influence on damage than the damage rating. So a 300 Shock weapons was better than a 500 or 600 plain Jane weapon.As far as $80 **** THEM! Never ever. Today it's unlikely I'll ever pay $70 for another game unless it's such a grand slam hit, I can't resist. And even if I paid the $70, I'd begrudge them, greedy so and sos. 😠
Some of it is "Duh" what made this game a hit? Yes it was in the dawn of video gaming, but it had a story a great story, so good they could of easily remade it, and just about followed the original story, add some twists, some intrigue, a charismatic companion to follow me around and $Ka-Ching$! Idiots! ☺️
It seems like this is an issue for ALL Major 'Corporate' Media Producers. Money talks, but it's not creative. You've got to have some genius involved in the process, vested in the creativity, the creation of a spectacular baby like Tony Gilroy (Andor) or James Cameron, not like, gee all the $ in the world, and we can't find a decent writer with some imagination $$JJArabrams$$ (Starwars 7-9). 🤨
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As in trying to use a formula to create, but missing the inspiration and creativity and essentially cloning a game off another hit? 🤔
For some reason Vampire the Masquerade 2 just popped into my head. The safe bet these days is to be wary about new games, do lots of research. With Balder's Gate 3, I failed that standard, bought the game, then discovered for lack of research and basically paying attention it was turn based combat, which I can't tolerate. Yeah I discussed this already in another thread, but fortunately I was able to return it before I fell out of Steam's Return Window. That was a $70 marked down to $55 on sale, a year or so after it's release. This maybe my future modus operandi for most games in the future.
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this is where art and business collide. Back then videogame coders did what was fun on small budgets. Now its a "suit" studying market trends and reading an excel sheet and orders the videogame in production to meet his "economic" findings.
On the good side, we still have "indie" they are just in the shadows due to the flood of games being released.
the 35min reviews on youtube are not making it easy. Late 2000s gamespot reviews were 3-5min long. Now they are tv episode in length because youtube won't monetize you until you have at least 10-15min video.
Colour me surprised. Was a given; state of gameplay, lacklustre reception, wasted development time & the stolen art fiasco... Bungie should be happy their doors are still open.
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Indeed, and that's what I find surprising. Tbh, I thought this was the straw that broke the camels back. Sony seems committed with reworking Marathon and releasing it in the future. I'm not going to lie, this smacks of Concord. Sony threw a bunch of money at the end to get it out the door, and it was a colossal failure. They're now throwing a bunch of money on another shooter/extractor - the market is so full of them
Could be down to the relationship or maybe Bungie has something else in the line that Sony has interest in. Either way I suspect Bungie is skating on thin ice and needs to deliver. Sony JPN looks to be taking more interest/control after Concord and is likely far less sympathetic to appeasing the few than Sony USA being more engaged with growth & profitability, more importantly repairing its reputation in the gaming space...
Personally, speaking Sony needs to get back to delivering great single player games and keep its eyes open for a good live service game such as Helldrivers that develops organically not constantly forcing the issue. Sony keeps the current path they risk more Concord level failures or games dropped mid development for being obviously bad with associated losses.
Good starting point would be to listen to the customers, not research groups & consultants loaded with personal agendas...
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