I agree with you! What is the deal with Halo, I think it's identical to Doom 3 or Unreal 4. Just a booooooring shoot em uper.
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Bungie Splits from Microsoft, Mac Games Ahead?
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I agree with you! What is the deal with Halo, I think it's identical to Doom 3 or Unreal 4. Just a booooooring shoot em uper.
After playing it I assumed that MS had likely interfered with the development process - the story just wasn't as rich as other bungie games (pathways into darkness doesn't count)
I agree. I tried Halo 1 several times, but I can't see what's so good about it. Games like the Myst series, Shenmue on Dreamcast, or the first half of Far Cry were both fun and worth playing through more than once.
Apple needs to find a top notch company and have them do an exclusive Mac Game. At least this is good news.Time for Apple to buy Bungie!
Any reason why posts form you, and only you, are 2x as wide as every other post?
And it has been this way, for me, for a while now.
No biggie. Just curious...
What If...
What if the
TV evolves to also include gaming capabilities?
Assuming all hardware was up-to-snuff, would anyone be interested in such an evolution?
What if the
TV evolves to also include gaming capabilities?Assuming all hardware was up-to-snuff, would anyone be interested in such an evolution?
What if the
Assuming all hardware was up-to-snuff, would anyone be interested in such an evolution?
It would be nice to have simple games like the iPod ones IMO...
It's unlikely Halo 3 will see a Mac release at all. Microsoft has been very stingy lately with Games for Windows and Xbox 360 exclusives, 360 and Windows games for which they own the IP. They own the IP, the brand, the characters, everything for Halo. Halo 3 will probably be Vista-only beyond the 360 version.
Halo has been an enormous success. The original made Xbox a viable console contender. The sequel, although disappointing to some was still as games go a very good game. Halo 3 has been much better received. All them sold incredible numbers and created a great media frenzy. But Halo is done. Bungie is moving on to other projects. The caliber of console games Bungie produces cost a fortune. I'm sure MS will continue to finance upfront, a la Gears of War, certain AAA titles, and therefore will own the IP and keep them exclusive to MS platforms. But other AAA titles, if they can create a large market for them on 360 and then 6 or 12 months later release them for PlayStation 3, that's even greater sales while not greatly diminishing the reason for lots of people to own a 360. For less grand titles, the difference between losing money and breaking even, or even making a small profit, could be simultaneous on two or three platforms.
And remember, Wii remains the overall bestselling current generation console. There's a lot of money to be made developing for Wii right now, and Wii titles rarely really compete for sales with 360 or PlayStation 3 titles.
@Clevin
It is like people have selective reading when it comes to the press releases. Microsoft has equity stake in Bungie. So anything they do Microsoft gets money (and first dibs on). I don't understand how this is getting overlooked.
@Clevin
It is like people have selective reading when it comes to the press releases. Microsoft has equity stake in Bungie. So anything they do Microsoft gets money (and first dibs on). I don't understand how this is getting overlooked.
It's not really getting overlooked, it just doesn't mean that they'll continue to be MS/xbox exclusive.
MS owns 45% of the company, that's not a controlling stake. MS will offer them deals to get exclusive titles, and they'll probably get some, but if Sony or Nintendo offered big bucks for an exclusive, MS doesn't have the power to stop them from taking it.
That is true. MS may not have controlling stake, depends on how the other 55% is divided. But no one can deny how good of a deal that would be for MS, to make money off Bungie regardless of who they make games for. Especially if MS is the publisher. The real question is what IP's did Bungie "take with them" in this deal.
As far as I can tell it looks like Bungie is now in 2nd party status.
from here.
I don't mean to be rude, but I cannot believe that nobody knows about Marathon, Pathways, Myth, and Oni (lol ).
I was down there, in the trenches, slogging it out with the Phfor with just my pistol and shotgun instead of studying for class.
Everyone has suddenly awakened to the fact that this "little known" game called Marathon bears "some" resemblance to Halo.
It's obvious that Halo is Marathon. AAAAARRRRGGGHHH!!
Ok, rant off. Whew, I'm spent.
).I was down there, in the trenches, slogging it out with the Phfor with just my pistol and shotgun instead of studying for class.
Everyone has suddenly awakened to the fact that this "little known" game called Marathon bears "some" resemblance to Halo.
It's obvious that Halo is Marathon. AAAAARRRRGGGHHH!!
Ok, rant off. Whew, I'm spent.
Easy there tiger! I'll jump when something materializes from this split...I'm so happy I want to do a rocket jump!
I don't mean to be rude, but I cannot believe that nobody knows about Marathon, Pathways, Myth, and Oni (lol
I was down there, in the trenches, slogging it out with the Phfor with just my pistol and shotgun instead of studying for class.
Everyone has suddenly awakened to the fact that this "little known" game called Marathon bears "some" resemblance to Halo.
It's obvious that Halo is Marathon. AAAAARRRRGGGHHH!!
Ok, rant off. Whew, I'm spent.
Oni was Bungie? That was a terrible game.
Frankly, I'd rather see them try something new -- a new franchise other than Halo. I just completed Halo3 and the unfinished feel of the solo campaign left a sour taste in my mouth. It's clear that they didn't flesh the game out as much as they could have, and I wonder, based on recent comments, if the breakup was the really the result of M$ cracking the whip, or if Bungie just got sick of developing for the Halo universe/storyline. If it's the latter, it's time to move on and get the creative juices flowing again. Let M$ have Halo, and build something better for the Mac.
From what I read, most are gone:
"Alex Seropian and most of the original Bungie team left a long time ago to form Wideload, leaving Jason "Kiss Ass" Jones as the only remaining original Bungie developer in the hands of MS. I dunno how much Jason had an impact on the Pathway into Darkness story, the Marathon story or the Myth story but I'm guessing not that much. I think Jason Jones was the lead programmer so all the creative goodness went to Wideload. It kinda shows too. The Halo series had a somewhat lackluster storyline."
"Alex Seropian and most of the original Bungie team left a long time ago to form Wideload, leaving Jason "Kiss Ass" Jones as the only remaining original Bungie developer in the hands of MS. I dunno how much Jason had an impact on the Pathway into Darkness story, the Marathon story or the Myth story but I'm guessing not that much. I think Jason Jones was the lead programmer so all the creative goodness went to Wideload. It kinda shows too. The Halo series had a somewhat lackluster storyline."
AFAIK, Jason (the man) Jones, co-counder of Bungie and creator of Marathon, stopped working on Halo after Halo 1, and started a new project. Perhaps he had a hand in Halo 3, but afaik he didin't touch Halo 2, and started spending the majority of his time on the next Bungie game.
Of course this is the way these things work. Game developers have minds and dev teams starting on the next project before the previous game is released. After Halo 3 was released, you'd expect a short vacation, and then everyone returns to work on the project that a smaller number of employees have already hashed out.
Bungie already has many ideas, and they have said that Halo 3 is the lasst Halo. Period. At least as far as they were concerned.
This could of course be a reason for the split. Bungie has never been one to "milk" a name for all it's worth (*cough*blizzard*cough*) And let a name die after 2 or 3 games. Microsoft probably wanted to see a Halo 4, or something else in the Halo-verse, and they refused, wanting to move on to the next project, story, idea, and genre.
I fully expect Microsoft to milk the Halo name for all its worth. I don't much like Microsoft
bring back marathon!!! marathon 4?!
I LOVED marathon -- "they're everywhere" -- so glad Bungie is somewhat indepentent again!
Interview 1
Interview 2
Interview 3
Interview 4
Good reads, all of them. Looks like Bungie owns itself. So I am not sure to the truthfulness of the 40% rumor.
Interview 2
Interview 3
Interview 4
Good reads, all of them. Looks like Bungie owns itself. So I am not sure to the truthfulness of the 40% rumor.
I don't know. Reads like marketing/nondisclosure agreement spin to me, but then I'm a cynic. I am seeing far more in these articles about how good the move will be for the 360 than rekindled desire to develop for the Mac. Not much good can come from Microsoft being a major Bungie shareholder (if the 40% is true).
Microsoft didn't do Myth 3. Microsoft/Bungie sold the rights to Oni/Myth to Take Two for Take Two's stake in Bungie. MumboJumbo developed Myth III and Take Two published it. Bungie won't be doing Myth 4.
That's as maybe but for us gamers who use Macs, it would be nice to have a small slice of the gaming pie.
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