Bungie Splits from Microsoft, Mac Games Ahead?

[tekcor]

No

You don't see the awesomness in Halo 3??!?

No, I saw the awesomeness of Halo when it was announced at Macworld, long before the Microsoft buyout. Since I know what Halo should have been, I simply refuse to play it, because Microsoft completely destroyed it.

 

[ManchesterTrix]

No, I saw the awesomeness of Halo when it was announced at Macworld, long before the Microsoft buyout. Since I know what Halo should have been, I simply refuse to play it, because Microsoft completely destroyed it.

Seriously?

Not that I think Halo is a must-play game or anything. But that's your rationale? Plus the Halo as seen at Macworld had already been substantially altered before Microsoft ever aquired Bungie. The version shown at E3 2000 looked much better than what was shown at MacWorld, and then was rewritten again because 1. Microsoft bought them and 2. Design difficulties.

 

[Demon]

Awesome

Marathon!

The Halo world actually looks and feels a lot like marathon.
Those were the days, multiplayer frag fest.
Marathon was leaps and bounds ahead of everything else, the story and the multiplayer modes. Geez, just the mention brings back memories.

Anyone tried running marathon on the new Macs?

 

[mentatbashar]

Marathon!

The Halo world actually looks and feels a lot like marathon.
Those were the days, multiplayer frag fest.
Marathon was leaps and bounds ahead of everything else, the story and the multiplayer modes. Geez, just the mention brings back memories.

Anyone tried running marathon on the new Macs?

After about a ten-ish year break from Marathon a friend recently made me aware that Marathon, Marathon: Durandal, and Marathon: Infinity are able to run on newer Macs. I have a 733 Mhz Digital Audio G4 and it runs sooo much better than way back in the olden days... Of course there is a patch thingy that you have to download and install in the Marathon folder in order for it to run but it does well. I can't say if it will run on an Intel machine.

About the same time, much to my surprise, I found Marathon: Durandal available for download on Xbox Live. (Yes, I own an Xbox360 because of FFXI... so what and a PS3). Anyhoo, looks good on the box as well and still makes me jump out of my chair. Sneaky Pfhor. Warbling all over the S'pht ziggurat.

Try this link for all your Marathon needs:
http://marathon.bungie.org/

Good luck and have fun!

 

[surferfromuk]

One thing we do know is that once upon a time Bungie's heart and soul belonged exclusively to Macintosh and such flames of passion burn deep.

Imagine being a mac lover and being forced (legally) to 'stay away' from it?

Once you've had the money, global reach and huge success, going back to your roots is often a great way of re-energizing your ambition and putting the fun back into something that has become a treadmill.

Perhaps Bungie are sick of Microsoft's restrictive 'covenant'.

 

[mdriftmeyer]

and no one able to play it because of poor graphics cards.

In a few years every PC will be EFI default with PCI 3.0. The cards will be interchangeable between OS X, Linux, Windows and many other OSs.

http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/conventional/pci_30/

 

[Dogenzaka]

And yet SOME of you still don't research your facts.

* Microsoft owns 49% of Bungie.
* MGS is still Bungie's publisher
* Microsoft still runs the show at Bungie
* Everything Halo is owned wholly by Microsoft, this includes Halo Wars, the Halo Peter Jackson Project, and anything in the Halo universe.

:/

 

[roach]

If Halo had been developed exclusively for Macs, it wouldn't been successful. Heck, even it was PC only, it also wouldn't be successful. A lot of features, such as multiplayer, able to ride vehicles and etc thats featured in Halo, was already available on the PC, so it wouldn't been cutting edge. But with consoles, these are "NEW" features that creates excitement.

Sorry, but Mac exclusive games is not going to happen. It's hard enough for game companies to give PC some attention, let alone a Mac exclusive. Only way it could happen is if Stevie pony up millions of dollars to create an exclusive game--but he is not that stupid. I work in the industry and Mac does not even register in the radar. Porting a PC version--a year behind? That I can see.

As far a Halo titles are concern, I wouldn't be suprise if its owned by MS. Most of the games we developed are own by our publishers. They can contract the project to anybody they want to.

 

[Wrock]

Sorry, but Mac exclusive games is not going to happen. It's hard enough for game companies to give PC some attention, let alone a Mac exclusive.

The hope here isn't for a Mac exclusive game. Remember, before the buyout, there was Myth and Oni. These games were both Mac/PC simultaneous releases. That was what Halo was supposed to be.
The hope is for *any* Mac development. That Bungie might start developing for Mac again isn't farfetched considering their origins.

I'm still interested in seeing how this 40-50% stake works out before getting too excited.

 

[booksacool1]

Yay. Perhaps this means we will get something new, i.e. not halo 1 rehashes (2 and 3).
I was very disappointed with the developments in Halo 2 and 3, didn't seem revolutionary at all.

 

[diamond.g]

In a few years every PC will be EFI default with PCI 3.0. The cards will be interchangeable between OS X, Linux, Windows and many other OSs.

http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/conventional/pci_30/

That is great, but what about drivers? Will Apple finally let AMD/Nvidia muck around in the kernel? Or will Apple be stuck always on the last revision of a driverset? I always wondered how you change the settings of your GPU in a Mac (force AA/AF and a few other tweaks).

Yay. Perhaps this means we will get something new, i.e. not halo 1 rehashes (2 and 3).
I was very disappointed with the developments in Halo 2 and 3, didn't seem revolutionary at all.

What could have been done in H2/H3 that would have been seen as revolutionary?

 

[50548]

Yay. Perhaps this means we will get something new, i.e. not halo 1 rehashes (2 and 3).
I was very disappointed with the developments in Halo 2 and 3, didn't seem revolutionary at all.

As said above, Halo is UTTER CRAP compared to Marathon; therefore, Halos 2 and 3 should just follow the same trend. Apart from nice GFX and shoot em' up gaming, nothing revolutionary has ever been there.

 

[savar]

About the same time, much to my surprise, I found Marathon: Durandal available for download on Xbox Live. (Yes, I own an Xbox360 because of FFXI... so what and a PS3). Anyhoo, looks good on the box as well and still makes me jump out of my chair. Sneaky Pfhor. Warbling all over the S'pht ziggurat.

Yep, I've been playing M2 on xbox live for a few weeks now. What an awesome game. I forgot how much Halo and Marathon paralleled each other.

 

[tjanuranus]

Since these games are so expensive to develop. It leaves them room to port the games over to and develop current franchises for the PS3 and Wii...

Wii can't handle Bungie's games. Halo 3 on the Wii? haha. the thing would break as soon as you put the game in.

 

[tjanuranus]

As said above, Halo is UTTER CRAP compared to Marathon; therefore, Halos 2 and 3 should just follow the same trend. Apart from nice GFX and shoot em' up gaming, nothing revolutionary has ever been there.

Halo is Crap? are you insane? I wonder why it breaks every record there is as far as sales go. Maybe because just about everyone wants to play it? If it were crap it wouldn't be the biggest selling game ever. Halo 2 was now Halo 3 is. If people thought halo 2 was crap, Halo 3 wouldn't have sold like it did and currently is.

 

[tjanuranus]

halo 3 for ps3?

No way. Microsoft owns the Halo franchise. Besides no one has a ps3 anyway.

 

[Much Ado]

Maybe because just about everyone wants to play it? If it were crap it wouldn't be the biggest selling game ever. Halo 2 was now Halo 3 is. If people thought halo 2 was crap, Halo 3 wouldn't have sold like it did and currently is.

13 year olds know best?

Phhhrraaaagggg..... Kiss my *** you ********, ahah, lol, that was total Pwnage.

 

[Southern]

Bungie relationship with Microsoft to end. Bungie reported saying to Microsoft "it's not you, it's me"

 

[tjanuranus]

you think the majority of people buying this are 13 year olds? that's funny. you should have seen the line i was standing in to pick up halo. was a few hundred people and most of them were at least 17 or older. alot of males in their twenties (like me.) I have been playing video games all my life and have had many favorites, especially in the early 90's but playing this halo franchise is the most fun i have ever had. The multiplayer on line is the greatest. I played halo 2 for over two years! Now that is some replay value.

 

[Southern]

Actually I spend more time playing Marathon on Total Carnage than Halo, but that might have something to do with the fact that I hate trying to play an FPS with a controller - keyboard and mouse or not at all, thankyou!

 

[shyataroo]

Microsoft may still own the halo series IP but that doesn't stop bugnie from making a halo killer.

Who knows maybe they will finally make pimps at sea (which they've been developing secretly on macs since microsoft bought them out)

 

[Keljeck]

Halo is Crap? are you insane? I wonder why it breaks every record there is as far as sales go. Maybe because just about everyone wants to play it? If it were crap it wouldn't be the biggest selling game ever. Halo 2 was now Halo 3 is. If people thought halo 2 was crap, Halo 3 wouldn't have sold like it did and currently is.

TRANSFORMERS made a ton of money, but it was still a piece of trash. Just because a product makes money doesn't mean it's GOOD. Windows makes a lot of money, but it's still a ****** operating system.

I too see nothing spectacular in Halo, and I've played 1 and 2. From what I heard 3 isn't much different. I haven't played Marathon so I can't be all nostalgic.

As for Bungie's status, if Microsoft has a controlling share then it's a second party. First party is wholly owned, Second party is controlling share, and Third party is everything else. It looks like Microsoft has Bungie on a longer leash, but a leash nonetheless.

 

[tjanuranus]

TRANSFORMERS made a ton of money, but it was still a piece of trash. Just because a product makes money doesn't mean it's GOOD. Windows makes a lot of money, but it's still a ****** operating system.

I too see nothing spectacular in Halo, and I've played 1 and 2. From what I heard 3 isn't much different. I haven't played Marathon so I can't be all nostalgic.

As for Bungie's status, if Microsoft has a controlling share then it's a second party. First party is wholly owned, Second party is controlling share, and Third party is everything else. It looks like Microsoft has Bungie on a longer leash, but a leash nonetheless.

not a good example. you can't compare a movie to a video game. the fact that people are STILL playing halo 2 online shows that it's a great game. Millions of people around the world will be playing halo 3 for years to come just like they have with Halo 2. Unless you have really played it online you can't possibly understand. I also have Halo 1 for the Mac and it's cool but the multiplayer can't compete with xbox live.

 

[mcarnes]

I think windows and halo are a good comparison. I mean, they both suck and everyone still uses them. Blockbuster summer movies are like that in a way.

The majority of the public has poor taste.

 

[diamond.g]

Microsoft may still own the halo series IP but that doesn't stop bugnie from making a halo killer.

Who knows maybe they will finally make pimps at sea (which they've been developing secretly on macs since microsoft bought them out)

How are they able to secretly work on a Mac game, and hide that from Microsoft and have the general public know about it? unless you work for Bungie and are divulging NDA'ed info... I was always under the impression that Pimps at Sea was the code name for Halo 3. I seem to remember seeing people with that "game" on their gamertag while on live.

What I find interesting is the fact that MS is their publisher and everyone here is ignoring that. I imagine that Bungie probably wont be making a Halo killer, especially if Microsoft has first dibs.