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Bus Passenger Beheads Seat Mate
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What I don't understand is the statement that everyone acted swiftly and bravely. This guy pulls out a knife and starts to stab the fellow next to him. The decapitating part would take some time to finish off. I just don't see how this was allowed to get that far.
Swiftly and bravely? I know the article states a few passengers "tried" to stop him, but it doesn't seem like they made much of an attempt IMO. None of us were there, but it sure seems like they could have done something more, at least stop him from hacking the head off.
Swiftly and bravely? I know the article states a few passengers "tried" to stop him, but it doesn't seem like they made much of an attempt IMO. None of us were there, but it sure seems like they could have done something more, at least stop him from hacking the head off.
If I had to guess, the guy is likely paranoid schizophrenic, and stopped taking his meds. 
I had a family member that did something like this (self inflicted though). They tend to confuse the delusions for reality, and react to false perceptions. Sad.
If this is the case, he should be held accountable. Patients on these types of meds are instructed by their physicians not to abruptly discontinue them, yet made a conscious decision to do so.
I had a family member that did something like this (self inflicted though). They tend to confuse the delusions for reality, and react to false perceptions. Sad.
If this is the case, he should be held accountable. Patients on these types of meds are instructed by their physicians not to abruptly discontinue them, yet made a conscious decision to do so.
If I had to guess, the guy is likely paranoid schizophrenic, and stopped taking his meds.
I had a family member that did something like this (self inflicted though). They tend to confuse the delusions for reality, and react to false perceptions. Sad.
If this is the case, he should be held accountable. Patients on these types of meds are instructed by their physicians not to abruptly discontinue them, yet made a conscious decision to do so.
He should be held accountable hands down, no exceptions.
WHAT A SICKO
Except he was sleeping when the attack started, hardly anything close to running his mouth, and even if he were earlier, the attacker simply could have moved to another seat. And according to an article I read on this, he started off in a different seat from the guy he decapitated, then he moved to the seat where he attacked the man. I think this was more on the part of the schizophrenic man who did not take his medications or did not take medical care. Not that there is an excuse, in my eyes, insanity defenses and defenses based on mental instability are BS, I know that there are millions who disagree with me, but from the view of the victim's family, I would want full justice for this horrible murder. He still should be locked up for life.
My thinking as well.
Comes down to "fight or flight".
Those without any military or law enforcement training are likely to flee if possible. Its how humans are wired, as it were. Combine that with most being taught "flight" as the correct response.
It's easy to say someone should have done something. But simply put, there is no way to know unless you were in that situation.
well, it's easy for us to judge, but we weren't there. I thought the same thing initially - why didn't anyone start yelling at the guy or try to jump him?, but that's too easy for me to think. I will say this, I've never beheaded anyone, but i'm a hunter and it doesn't take long to field dress a deer. Part of that is removing the head from the body. A deer's neck is thicker than a human's and it doesn't take that long. Not hard to do. (apologies to any animal lovers out there...just trying to make a point and not be disturbing on purpose).
Someone like the attacker, in a rage, with a sharp knife....it wouldn't take long at all. I know that is disgusting to think, but it's true. It would not take long.
This story disgusts me. I just don't understand nor will I ever think any of us will.
He should have been taken out before he made it all the way to the front of the bus.
For that matter, if somebody were armed it is quite possible the perpetrator could have been taken out before fatal wounds were inflicted to the victim.
At the very least, if the perp were taken out he would not be wasting tax payer dollars in the penal system.
Sigh. Perhaps the next time this sort of thing occurs the bystanders will be better prepared.
For that matter, if somebody were armed it is quite possible the perpetrator could have been taken out before fatal wounds were inflicted to the victim.
At the very least, if the perp were taken out he would not be wasting tax payer dollars in the penal system.
Sigh. Perhaps the next time this sort of thing occurs the bystanders will be better prepared.
Ah, but the revulsion is made all-encompassing BECAUSE it happened in Canada.
This is so far from the norm here that it defies description.
Can you do better??
True. This guy needs to be monitored in a way that doesn't happen in prison.
I agree with you completely (heck I even wrote "none of us were there"), but it still seems to me that someone could have done something. Especially after reading some other reports with comments from passengers and they say things like "he was like a robot". This wasn't a man in a rage, wildly flailing his knife. He was methodically stabbing this person to death and everyone ran. Sure nothing says I wouldn't do the same, but I'd like to think I would have made an attempt to intervene a little sooner than after I had already gotten off of the bus.
But it's all just talk, I'm certainly not going to condemn anyone that was there, it's not their fault this happened.
To all those saying someone should have engaged the beheader...
...how would you have done and not endanger your life (thus ending up with two dead instead of one)?
...how would you have done and not endanger your life (thus ending up with two dead instead of one)?
...how would you have done and not endanger your life (thus ending up with two dead instead of one)?
Because you have to TRY.
I may get cut once or twice, at 275 lbs, I would be a match for him. I'm sure there was at least someone on the bus, ho could have intervened. Wrap your arms with a shirt or two, and jump his butt.
P.S. Cleanup-get rid of the avatar please! I keep swatting my monitor!
I have been thinking the same thing, and since you broke the ice, I'm gonna second that.
Dripping.
The guy was, by then, already dead, and they were behind everyone else.
All you would have done, at risk of life and limb, is stop the beheading.
Poor choice.