Bus Passenger Beheads Seat Mate

brn2ski00 said:
How did his wife have no idea that dude was a looney?
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People can hide these things very well; my Dad had a friend that everyone thought was fine (his wife was even a shrink) and one day he committed suicide out of nowhere.
 
brn2ski00 said:
How did his wife have no idea that dude was a looney?
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How many times do you hear on the news "He always seemed like a normal guy" from the neighbours of the latest mass murderer with 100 bodies in his cellar?

People hide stuff all the time, I've known four people who have attempted suicide after I'd known them for a while, and I wouldn't have expected it of any of them. 50% success rate btw.
 
mpw said:
How many times do you hear on the news "He always seemed like a normal guy" from the neighbours of the latest mass murderer with 100 bodies in his cellar?
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Pretty much every time something like this happens. It really is tragic.

Good point.
 
mpw said:
How many times do you hear on the news "He always seemed like a normal guy" from the neighbours of the latest mass murderer with 100 bodies in his cellar?
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That's because neighbours know dick all about their neighbours. Just because a guy looks normal when taking out the trash doesn't mean they have a lot of insight about their neighbour. Reporters just need to interview someone who knows of him/her.

People hide stuff all the time, I've known four people who have attempted suicide after I'd known them for a while, and I wouldn't have expected it of any of them. 50% success rate btw.
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Yeah, I think I'd be pretty good at hiding it (if suicide had crossed my mind).
 
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the fact that he cannibilies the victim. He actually ate chunks of the guy. And when he was arrested they found one of the victims ears, his lips, and nose(or eye, can't remember which) in his pocket.

To say that someone should have stopped the offended is great, but it isn't as easy as that. By the time most people realized what happened he had already blead to death.

And apprently he was like a robot, completly emotionless as he repeattedly stabbed the man (something like 41 times I think I read).
 
nanofrog said:
If I had to guess, the guy is likely paranoid schizophrenic, and stopped taking his meds. :eek:

I had a family member that did something like this (self inflicted though). They tend to confuse the delusions for reality, and react to false perceptions. Sad.

If this is the case, he should be held accountable. Patients on these types of meds are instructed by their physicians not to abruptly discontinue them, yet made a conscious decision to do so. :(
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The problem is is that one of the features of schizophrenia is a lack of insight (medical term) into their condition - meaning that compliance with management regimes is often complicated. This, coupled with the alienating features of the disease such as withdrawal, blunted emotions and altered speech and behavioural patterns often lead to a loss of family support, leading to a viscious cycle of worsening symptoms.

The fact is though, Schizophrenia IS a disease - not a choice, not reduced to such words as SICKOs.


BBC News said:
BBC News
Murders committed by mentally ill people are not on the increase, despite popular belief, psychiatrists have claimed.
People who have drunk too much or taken drugs are more likely to kill someone, they said.

The finding comes in a study by the Royal College of Psychiatrists (RCPsych), which found a steady decline in the proportion of murders committed by people with mental disorders between 1957 and 1995.

It concludes that people are more likely to win the National Lottery jackpot [14,000,000 - 1] than to die at the hand of a stranger with a mental illness.

It also says the finding proves that the care in the community scheme is not a "dangerous experiment" and should not be reversed.

However, high-profile murder cases involving schizophrenic patients in community care have led the public to fear attacks from mentally ill people and the government to review the scheme.
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It is bizarre that we call schizophrenics "sickos" and not drunks or druggies. They have a disease that is difficult to manage - it is WRONG to tar them with the same brush just because the few that do commit crimes get in the news.
 
Vivid.Inferno said:
To say that someone should have stopped the offended is great, but it isn't as easy as that. By the time most people realized what happened he had already blead to death.
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Besides, how often do you see guys play-fighting, goofing off, etc.? Especially if the guy seemed so calm (as opposed to a yelling, screaming, rage, where you can see it coming). If I was watching the scene, it would probably in all honesty take a few seconds of processing during which time I am thinking "Is this a game? Are they playing? Is that a fake knife? ... What the heck??" By the time you realize what's really going on, it's too late.
 
Interfering, may not have stopped the victim from dyeing, but it would have stopped the mutilation. The family was denied an open casket funeral. Their last memory will be a horrifying.
 
iMac-Knight said:
Interfering, may not have stopped the victim from dyeing, but it would have stopped the mutilation. The family was denied an open casket funeral. Their last memory will be a horrifying.
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I agree with you about the families last memory, however the man was already dead. I don't want to sound insensitive, because it is truely horrible, but why risk your life protecting a dead body?

I honestly don't know what I would do in that situation, and I really hope I never have to find out.
 
Vivid.Inferno said:
...I don't want to sound insensitive, because it is truely horrible, but why risk your life protecting a dead body?...
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I don't think in tackling the guy my first thought would be that I was doing it to protect a dead body; in all likelihood those on the bus during the attack may only have been aware of the attack, not whether the victim was dead at the point that they chose to act or not, and in choosing to act they may have been trying to prevent him moving to another victim.
 
The bottom end of humanity has found reason to be interested in this terrible tragedy:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2008/08/08/westboro-protest.html?ref=rss

Border guards to turn away church group aiming to picket bus victim's funeral

Canadian border guards are under orders to prevent members of a fundamentalist American church from crossing into Canada to protest at the funeral Saturday of a Winnipeg man brutally killed on a Greyhound bus last week.

Westboro Baptist Church, a controversial Kansas-based sect, intends to picket the funeral of 22-year-old Tim McLean to tell Canadians his slaying on July 30 was God's response to Canadian policies enabling abortion, homosexuality and adultery.

"God is punishing Canada for passing laws against WBC — by exposing Canadians as cannibals and highway decapitaters," the church says in a news release on its website, which refers to McLean as "The Headless Canadian."

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day's office sent an alert to border patrol to "look out" for people with signs and pamphlets consistent with the messages that the church promotes and to keep them out of the country, Winnipeg MP Pat Martin told CBC News on Friday.

"Entering Canada by a U.S. citizen isn't an absolute right, and if you're coming here only to disrupt the social order and to promote what we consider to be bordering on hate crimes or hate language, they shouldn't come into Canada," Martin said.

"We're not going to allow these people to compound the tragedy of the McLean family loss, and Canadians simply won't tolerate these lunatics disrupting what should be a respectful service."

Freedom of speech is not absolute, Martin said.

"Your freedom to swing your arm in the air ends when it touches the end of my nose," he said. "What these people were going to do was hurtful, harmful and disruptive to the peace, order and good government that we guarantee to our citizens, so they have no place in this country."

A counter-protest against the church's picket plans was launched on the social networking site Facebook on Thursday. More than 500 people have since joined the group; postings indicate they plan to form a "human wall" around the family to shield them from the church protest, if it takes place.

The Westboro Baptist Church and its founder, Pastor Fred Phelps, gained infamy by protesting gay-pride rallies and the funerals of people who have died from AIDS-related illnesses.

In recent years, church members have also picketed the funerals of American soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, claiming the deaths are also God's punishment for the country's tolerance for homosexuality.
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The worst part about the WBC is that they have their young children holding signs that they don't even understand. :mad:
 
I am so angry about the WBC. They have no right to be here. And some did make it into Manitoba. They expressed mailed their signs and pamphlets, so the crossed the boarded without anything identifiying them.
 
Did you guys hear about that the weirdo who beheaded the victim, also ate his brain and intestines, or is that all just mumbo jumbo people have come up with?
 
sn00pie said:
Did you guys hear about that the weirdo who beheaded the victim, also ate his brain and intestines, or is that all just mumbo jumbo people have come up with?
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He did cannibilise the victim, but not his brain or intestines. Considering he was holding the head, he couldn't have eatten the brain. I believe, nvm, we don't need gory details. But yes, what you heard sounds like the rumour mill.
 
I hate these extremist groups like WBC that try to claim that an act like this was the work of God. Trying to relate all AIDS related deaths to homosexuality, come on, who are they trying to kid. Think of countries like Haiti and look at the spread of AIDS there, the passing on of it there was not because of a homosexual community, but rather a lack of knowledge and lack of protective means. These people at WBC are trying to take a horrible act labeled as being done by God, to be honest, anybody who believes the message they are trying to portray I have one message for, SCREW YOU:mad:
 
JML42691 said:
I hate these extremist groups like WBC that try to claim that an act like this was the work of God. Trying to relate all AIDS related deaths to homosexuality, come on, who are they trying to kid. Think of countries like Haiti and look at the spread of AIDS there, the passing on of it there was not because of a homosexual community, but rather a lack of knowledge and lack of protective means. These people at WBC are trying to take a horrible act labeled as being done by God, to be honest, anybody who believes the message they are trying to portray I have one message for, SCREW YOU:mad:
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Their website is godhatesf*gs.com. It's dispicable. There is no reason for hate like that. I hope if they try and cross the boarder into Canada to protest they are arrested. The boarder guard has been told not to let them into our country.
 
Right, they thought their fight was so righteous that they had to skulk about in the dark.

I would throw their asses in jail, for anything, and let them out in about 6 months.
 
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