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am i the only one who is psyched on news like this? all it means to me is the stock will probably drop more because of people hating apple and panicking, then i can go buy more cheap, and i'm sure by summer or fall it will be irrelevant.


drop like a rock please, but only until i buy, then go up :D
See now that is a positive attitude, I like that! ;)
 
And at some point you will wake up from your daydream. Almost everything Apple has released in the last 2 years was disappointing, including the pointless MacBook Air. The only exception is the iPhone, which they managed to put in handcuffs...

disappointing to who? a bunch of internet nerds with nothing better to do than complain that we aren't all driving flying air cars or teleporting to our moon bases?

go to an apple store some time. check out the throngs of people shopping there and buying things. and while you're there, check out the line of people checking out the macbook air. they don't think it's pointless. as far as iphone, SDK may allow a few new useful features, but i'm pretty happy with it as it is.

i agree with previous posts that people need to get a life. a real one, not the fantasy one they are expecting apple to deliver to them.
 
I love when people who have no experience delivering enterprise software speculate on why software gets delayed. There are several reason why software is delayed. The consumers of software always want specific dates and the software developers always want to avoid dates.

If the SDK is truly delayed I don't think it has anything to do with how "Apple sucks now blah blah". Moreover mentioning the stock price is a horrible indicator about the quality of product a technology company delivers. Take a look at Intel and other tech companies.

Whining about a 3 week delay is childish. The majority of people are just consumers of technology and haven't even cracked open Xcode. Suck it up.
 
What are the fabulous programs people think we're going to get once this SDK becomes available? There are only a limited number of things you can do on a little pocket device and Apple has already programmed most of them.

Slingplayer for iPhone/iPod touch. That alone would be good enough for me to un-jailbreak my device.
 
And at some point you will wake up from your daydream. Almost everything Apple has released in the last 2 years was disappointing, including the pointless MacBook Air. The only exception is the iPhone, which they managed to put in handcuffs...

Re: the iPhone: With only AT&T here in the US Id say more like a Straight Jacket! ;)
 
I am sure that what happened is that Apple realized that the SDK was going to allow for too many cool apps and games from 3rd party developers so they had to go back and cripple the SDK some more. This way they can come out with a new SDK in about 6 to 8 months that will be what this one should be.

Apple, I am giving you a failing grade on this one. There is no good reason for the delay. You announced it over 6 months ago. I mean it's just an SDK!
 
Apple, I am giving you a failing grade on this one. There is no good reason for the delay. You announced it over 6 months ago. I mean it's just an SDK!

Maybe not, in Jobs' mind, when your stock is trading at 58% of what it was two months ago....

Maybe it's time for a major RDF event! :eek:
 
Hahaha. Nice. Why would the nano have wifi (you forgot to block it out)? The apps on the home screen don't use wifi XD.

I'm not sure how Apple would implement the Nano exactly. I think it would be really close to that so that is does not require a data plan, it would just be a normal cell phone. But then I think, if they don't include the data apps like web, email, widgets, then they will need to implement mms which I don't think they want to do, so maybe they would include some of the data apps. I don't know, what do you think? I know a lot of people are buying smart phones that have never had one before because of the iPhone, but the teen demographic and lower income aren't going to be able to afford those things and Apple will need to target those people too. Maybe they would include them but have them only work on WIFI that way people would only get a data plan if they wanted too but could still use the data apps.

P.S. Why the hell did they remove my post and my mock-up??? :(
 
Anyone have the link the to iPhone feedback submission page on apple.com??? I have looked and searched and can't find it anywhere. Thanks.
 
If this is true I'm seriously wondering why Apple can't seem to get anything out on time anymore (Leopard, Apple TV Update, SDK, more to come!).

1 - 3 weeks isn't bad ... look at the windows world, how many times did vista get delayed ? How long were the delays ?! Sure, Leopard was delayed by 6 months, but thats nothing compared to the delays MS brought about.

I dunno why everyone is up in arms over this, its a small delay ... I am sure it will be well worth the wait.
 
Is this better now?
 

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so it's not the full osx it was hyped to be.



no, in companies that take their coding seriously. when you have more coders than a few and the lifespan of the product is years, if not tens of years, you'll have a mess without proper and enforced coding standards. of course, such a mess would explain why apple's is delaying, not delivering.



as pointed out earlier, not making apis public does not imply not documenting them.



well that's obvious by now. the question is whether the reasons behind the amount of work are bad or worse.

- they didn't understand that ppl wanted to install 3rd party apps before customers started jailbraking (really bad)
- they haven't documented the code properly (really bad)
- the iphone osx is less of an osx than implied earlier (bad)
- the resources allocated for sdk in the first place have been reallocated (bad)
- they have general lack of developing resources (bad)
- the resources they have are not (yet) fully qualified (bad)

Excuse me, but when did Apple ever state that iPhone ran FULL OS X? They said it runs OS X, not that it ran full OS X. Of COURSE it doesn't run the full thing. If it did you wouldn't get the same battery life, and a lot more of your iPhone's 8GB space would be gone to the operating system installation..

What they did, as far as I can tell, is roll it out "ASAP." Everything ran as root, and hence it was locked down. I would be certain that their internal APIs had not matured either. What they've been doing for the last 6 months+ is tidying that up, putting the APIs in place, and firming them up so they can make them public. That's what happens when you develop software! Ideally you lock down the APIs right away, but that's not always possible, and Apple has sold probably 5M+ of these things now, so the odds are that they're comfortable with the decision to roll it out originally, warts and all.

I personally have no problem with any of that. I've been loving my iPhone since day 1, and I can live with the fact that custom apps are 9 months away.

Bottom line, it's NEVER about technology. EVER.
 
I would really like to see a dictionary program. It's simple stuff like that, which could really help the device see a lot of use especially by students. I know I remembered hearing about how the iPod was used by some college classes where you had to get the lecture digitally.

I definitely can't think of any reason not to have a several thousand page dictionary in your pocket.
 
What they've been doing for the last 6 months+ is tidying that up, putting the APIs in place, [...]

No, what they've been doing is playing catch up with hackers. I guess the delay was quite predictable considering the latest hacks. I would have thought it was longer though, I mean if all the people who should have worked on that SDK have to monitor irc chats for half a year...
 
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I'll wait until they get it rift, thanks. Don't rush out an unfinished product just to meet an artificial, self-imposed deadline.
 
I definitely can't think of any reason not to have a several thousand page dictionary in your pocket.

It would be just plain awesome. I'm not sure how much space something like that could take up file-wise, but it would be extremely useful.

I recall seeing how an ipod hacked to run linux, could be used to store wikipedia style entries, so pretty much anything could be possible. I can just imagine how programs could be bundled and sold once this thing gets off the ground. Educational basics, etc.
 
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