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"Buy a case for it" & "Update next month" - Apple Supervisor

The EFB eliminates the need for an iPhone except, perhaps, for weather.

The iPhone might serve your somewhat simpler purposes for runway headings, etc., but for the big stuff, the EFB has it all, and is being adopted by Part 121 all over.
 
Built said:
The EFB eliminates the need for an iPhone except, perhaps, for weather.

The iPhone might serve your somewhat simpler purposes for runway headings, etc., but for the big stuff, the EFB has it all, and is being adopted by Part 121 all over.
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I actually read about that on AOPA. I won't be a professional pilot long enough to find out what the future holds, as I mentioned I'll be going into ATC, but curious nonetheless.

http://www.aopa.org/flightplanning/articles/2010/100506ipad.html

So do you actually fly or are you in a different aviation field?
 
thatsmyaibo said:
Gizmodo found the phone quite a while ago which means it was being field tested. If the Apple QA couldn't pick up on a problem that took consumers 1 day to figure out, then there is a huge problem. This phone was released faulty and extreme fanboyism isn't going to make it better.
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When they field tested it, they kept it in a case that disguised it as a 3GS. Thanks to Apple's paranoid secrecy, they probably did very little "naked phone" testing out in public areas.
 
churchrd said:
I'm fascinated that you guys are able to use a consumer product(iphone or ipad) to aid you in your line of work.
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Actually I am too. My 3GS would randomly just go into a coma, I'd hate to think what these guys would do if that happened at 20,000 feet. Hopefully that manual is close by for reference in case of a CONSUMER device failure.

You know what, I'm just not flying. Between the Captains having vodka tonics on lunch and using Ipods to refer to........I dunno, just not warm and fuzzy about it.


:D


"Ladies and gentleman we will be taking off soon, your captain is just loading his app and creating a playlist, then we will take off as soon as he finishes syncing to his Macbook Pro that sits in his lap. Buckle up."
 
Ferris23 said:
Actually I am too. My 3GS would randomly just go into a coma, I'd hate to think what these guys would do if that happened at 20,000 feet. Hopefully that manual is close by for reference in case of a CONSUMER device failure.

You know what, I'm just not flying. Between the Captains having vodka tonics on lunch and using Ipods to refer to........I dunno, just not warm and fuzzy about it.


:D


"Ladies and gentleman we will be taking off soon, your captain is just loading his app and creating a playlist, then we will take off as soon as he finishes syncing to his Macbook Pro that sits in his lap. Buckle up."
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You wouldn't take ANY electronic reference without a hard copy, paper chart and approach plates. Any could fail, or batteries die.
 
Nyse said:
You wouldn't take ANY electronic reference without a hard copy, paper chart and approach plates. Any could fail, or batteries die.
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Just making sure, these guys say they are flying using the Iphone instead of a paper manual.
 
Ferris23 said:
You know what, I'm just not flying. Between the Captains having vodka tonics on lunch and using Ipods to refer to........I dunno, just not warm and fuzzy about it.


:D


"Ladies and gentleman we will be taking off soon, your captain is just loading his app and creating a playlist, then we will take off as soon as he finishes syncing to his Macbook Pro that sits in his lap. Buckle up."
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lol!
 
Ferris23 said:
Just making sure, these guys say they are flying using the Iphone instead of a paper manual.
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How incompetent do you think they are?

I'm not a pilot, but if I were I think I'd find some of the comments and sheer ignorance in this thread insulting.
 
Does the phone even work at 30,000 ft in the air ?

This sounds like a BS line to me. I am sure that pilots get all that information they need before they even step onto a plane and start flying. Besides, it has already been stated that there is no issue if the phone is in a case. You can resolve your entire issue by putting your phone in a case.
 
Sinfire said:
Does the phone even work at 30,000 ft in the air?
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Read the rest of the thread....in fact, your question is answered on the first page.

This sounds like a BS line to me. I am sure that pilots get all that information they need before they even step onto a plane and start flying.
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Again....read the rest of the thread! The pilots do get this info in the form of papers & charts, but the iPhone apps get rid of the hassle of trying to find the right page and details to look at.
Besides, it has already been stated that there is no issue if the phone is in a case. You can resolve your entire issue by putting your phone in a case.
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I don't think you understood the point behind this thread.... read it again and come back later.


*walks outside...*
"AHHHH!!!!!!"
*goes back to work*.
 
Built said:
...and there's a LOT less room in a Cessna cockpit.
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Seriously...we get it. He's "Part 135". He flies charter. It's smaller than "the big iron". Yours is bigger. You win.

OP: Sorry about your luck, obviously you had to pay a premium for the new phone. Hopefully the issue gets sorted out soon, but in the meantime I'm looking for a case anyway simply because I can only imagine my horror if I drop this thing and it cracks.

I'm lucky that I haven't experienced any reception issues - if getting a case helps boost reception even more, such is life, right?

PS - Congratulations on keeping your cool through one of the craziest, most stupidly responded to threads I've seen on here in awhile.
 
ANIM8R said:
Seriously...we get it. He's "Part 135". He flies charter. It's smaller than "the big iron". Yours is bigger. You win.

OP: Sorry about your luck, obviously you had to pay a premium for the new phone. Hopefully the issue gets sorted out soon, but in the meantime I'm looking for a case anyway simply because I can only imagine my horror if I drop this thing and it cracks.

I'm lucky that I haven't experienced any reception issues - if getting a case helps boost reception even more, such is life, right?

PS - Congratulations on keeping your cool through one of the craziest, most stupidly responded to threads I've seen on here in awhile.
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Thanks. I'm actually flying today at 2 and ended up getting the clear Belkin case from Best Buy. Was hoping I could walk around showing off the beauty of the natural design but this case isn't half bad and does help the reception issues.

I just hope Apple announces something soon and I hope nobody accepts that buying a case or holding it differently is a legitimate fix.
 
ANIM8R said:
PS - Congratulations on keeping your cool through one of the craziest, most stupidly responded to threads I've seen on here in awhile.
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I'll second that. I thought the thread interesting because I have a friend who uses an iPad for the same thing and the usefulness of the unit for flight is actually quite impressive. Certainly more impressively than 80% of macmorons.com

thatsmyaibo said:
Thanks. I'm actually flying today at 2 and ended up getting the clear Belkin case from Best Buy. Was hoping I could walk around showing off the beauty of the natural design but this case isn't half bad and does help the reception issues.

I just hope Apple announces something soon and I hope nobody accepts that buying a case or holding it differently is a legitimate fix.
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I hit the reception problem immediately and went to AT&T to get a case. They had a really nice case but not on display. A woman led me back to a desk drawer where the iPhone 4 cases were kept and that was that, no more reception problems, it looks nice, it has rubber sides so it won't slip out of my hand or shirt pocket. Why they only have 3GS cases on display is beyond me but whatever, the problem is in the past. Enjoy the flight!
 
Out of 5 pages of replies, I think only 2 or 3 actually were on topic. (and not about whether or not the OP is a pilot or whether its safe to use an iPhone in a cockpit)

To the OP: Apple is in a pickle. There are a lot of unhappy customers due to the reception issues. But there are many other customers who are not experiencing any issues whatsoever. There could that a certain batch of iPhones that were shipped were faulty. Or maybe it is dependent on your particular location. It would not be cost-effective for Apple to do a total-recall on iPhone4s and giving away free bumpers would force them to admit that they are at fault. (which they do not want to admit)

But there isn't a single mobile phone on the market that is perfect. And many of these phones do have the same reception issues if held in certain ways. Due to new safety standards, newer phones are required to put their internal antennas in the lower section of the phone as it is pointed away from the brain. The iphone software update may help things as well as bumpers. But if people want to send a message to Apple that they are unhappy with their phone, RETURN IT. If everyone who has complained about having an unusable iphone on this message board actually returned their unit back to Apple, Apple would pay more attention. Arguing with customer service reps or venting on message boards will do nothing.

And if you are a pilot using an iPhone with reception issues, DEFINITELY return it for a phone or tablet pc that works properly.
 
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