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Having some buyers remorse here. Sold a mid 2011 13" Air to upgrade to the base rMBP. Running at the highest OSX based resolution (not using SwitchRes) and the lag is annoying. On any graphical pages such as Facebook, it is noticeably jumpy compare to the Air and Windows desktop I have.

Just installed Mountain Lion Dev 4 and was disappointed it's about the same performance. The three finger swipe up to show all apps struggles and is also choppy. Other small complaint: as thin as this is, it is still a beast compare to the air.

3 days left to decide if I want to return this and go with the new model 13" air...leaning towards it...

Does the lag go away at "best for retina" resolution (1440 x 900)?
 
seriously contemplated the RMBP but i'll be skipping this generation. as a dev/designer it will be useless to me as i'd have to use an external monitor anyway.

i can't see how it could suit anyones needs right now unless all you do is surf the web in safari or chrome canary. i mean, you can't even do simple word processing yet because theres no retina friendly word processor available.

for the people who are perfectly fine with their purchase, what the heck are you doing on it anyway? playing games? thats it? sure there may be a few aperture users but with no optimized photoshop version available, i can't see how this machine can be used for real work for a long time until apps are actually updated.

Have you seen a non-retina ready app on the rMBP? I too had the same thought as you until I went to the apple store to test one out. Yes CS6 and Office isn't retina ready but it is honestly a non-issue. Your work in photoshop and illustrator still look amazing. The tools bars just aren't as crisp as the dock. It is a non issue and after reading many posts about it being good and bad I've came to the conclusion that people saying "non retina ready apps look horrible" are over exaggerating.
 
I loved the rmbp I saw in person at BB. Ordered one within 24 hours of that lol. My biggest complaint with the rest of the macbook lineup is video hardware. Intel IGP in my opinion will always be practically worthless for any gaming or anything. Then the 13" macbook has the good 650m but with hald the vram and the 15" with the 1gb 650m costs more than the retina when configured in a similar way! I say rmbp all the way :)

The Intel HD4000 is actually just slightly slower than the NVIDIA GeForce GT330M in the 2010 Pros, and considerably faster than the 9600GT in the 08/09 Pro. About on-par with the 6490M in the base SB (2011) Pro I believe.

Of course it doesn't hold a candle to the 650M, but it's not as weak as the previous GMA graphics by a long shot. It'll do basic gaming perfectly fine. Maybe not at native res on the Retina display, but on most other computers (including the regular Pros) it'll be pretty good.

On the Air, the HD4000 is underclocked as it's on an ULV processor, but it's still much better than any IGP produced before and is comparable to many lower-end dedicated GPUs.

Having some buyers remorse here. Sold a mid 2011 13" Air to upgrade to the base rMBP. Running at the highest OSX based resolution (not using SwitchRes) and the lag is annoying. On any graphical pages such as Facebook, it is noticeably jumpy compare to the Air and Windows desktop I have.

Just installed Mountain Lion Dev 4 and was disappointed it's about the same performance. The three finger swipe up to show all apps struggles and is also choppy. Other small complaint: as thin as this is, it is still a beast compare to the air.

3 days left to decide if I want to return this and go with the new model 13" air...leaning towards it...

Are you running on the full 2880x1800 resolution? On Best for Retina and 1680x1050, it's actually pretty fluid for me.
 
Have you seen a non-retina ready app on the rMBP? I too had the same thought as you until I went to the apple store to test one out. Yes CS6 and Office isn't retina ready but it is honestly a non-issue. Your work in photoshop and illustrator still look amazing. The tools bars just aren't as crisp as the dock. It is a non issue and after reading many posts about it being good and bad I've came to the conclusion that people saying "non retina ready apps look horrible" are over exaggerating.

Yes the photo-editing stuff is ok as only the menus are pixelated, however, my 2 other primary apps Excel + Word basically stink. All the text and numbers look really fuzzy compared to my hires glossy 2011 MBP. Considering Apple hasn't yet fixed Pages & Numbers show that us number/letter crunchers are out of luck for now.
 
No, Scaled "More Space"....1920x1200 I believe.

That's pretty strange, 1920 on mine is fairly smooth until I open up two 1080p videos. That's when the 650M kicks in and it becomes smooth again.

I've uploaded a few videos and linked to them here, do check it out. Hopefully your issue is fixed in the ML GM.

Funny thing is, I went to see if there was any rMBPs in stock at my local equivalent of Best Buy and checked out the new Ivy Bridge Airs and Pros. The screen on the 13" Pro is simply laughable and the screen on the Air was slightly better, but still nowhere near the Retina in terms of clarity.
When I initially turned on my Retina Pro I wasn't all that stunned by the clarity (certainly didn't feel like the jump from my 3GS to the iP4) but now that I can do a direct comparison between the Macs there's really a difference. Just my 2c., and of course YMMV.
 
Only regret is getting the 8/512 at the apple store instead of ordering bto immediately on launch. I will just return it when then 16 I ordered the next day arrives or when the 14 days are up, whatever comes first... I have no current need for 16 but maybe one day there will be
 
Have you seen a non-retina ready app on the rMBP? I too had the same thought as you until I went to the apple store to test one out. Yes CS6 and Office isn't retina ready but it is honestly a non-issue. Your work in photoshop and illustrator still look amazing. The tools bars just aren't as crisp as the dock. It is a non issue and after reading many posts about it being good and bad I've came to the conclusion that people saying "non retina ready apps look horrible" are over exaggerating.

yes i have. have you actually used illustrator on the RMBP? its horrible. vectors/text are pixelated looking. i didn't bother to test photoshop since zoom levels are all screwed up on the retina screen.

i have no idea how you're getting amazing results from illustrator. please explain.
 
That's pretty strange, 1920 on mine is fairly smooth until I open up two 1080p videos. That's when the 650M kicks in and it becomes smooth again.

I've uploaded a few videos and linked to them here, do check it out. Hopefully your issue is fixed in the ML GM.

Yeah that looks much better then mine. My scrolling looks similar to the video posted a few after yours where it's jumpy. Not sure what i'm missing...
 
I genuinely believe the Air is best for most people. The Pro, best for others. The biggest remorse I've seen is based on the lack of retina optimized apps, but that will only get better and better.

Eh...what?

This is a silly post.

The Air is right for some, the rMBP for others.

A lack of Retina apps is hardly a reason to be remorsful.
 
Ill be using my £2000 Retina Pro for reading Anandtech, Engadget and maybe the odd game in bootcamp.

I am the definition of Overkill.

lol tell me about it..

I am in sales at work, so I email and use safari for research...and that is it.

The owner of the company is really cool, I asked him for one of these and he said sure why not.

So now I email and use safari on a 3K dollar machine.


As far as regrets, I didn't pay for it so I don't have any haha

However, I am a smoothness freak and this isn't as smooth as my mid 2011 15 pro...I installed ML and that helped a ton, but it is still not perfect-smooth like I expect apple products to be. I am hoping that software updates will fix it over time. I will say, that above being a smoothness freak, I am a screen freak even more, and this screen is amazing to say the least.
 
lol tell me about it..

I am in sales at work, so I email and use safari for research...and that is it.

The owner of the company is really cool, I asked him for one of these and he said sure why not.

So now I email and use safari on a 3K dollar machine.

And so the middle class taxpayers foot the bill. It's a wonderful racket capitalism :)
 
And so the middle class taxpayers foot the bill. It's a wonderful racket capitalism :)

not sure if serious...

We are a private company, we can spend that money however we want...we pay a ton in taxes just for the "privilege" to operate.

capitalism FTW
 
The "Dude";15155106 said:
Interested to see how BF3 runs. I love my rMBP by the way. No regrets whatsoever.

I got mine set up on Windows 8 release preview. It runs great, looks great.
 
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mac jones said:
lol tell me about it..

I am in sales at work, so I email and use safari for research...and that is it.

The owner of the company is really cool, I asked him for one of these and he said sure why not.

So now I email and use safari on a 3K dollar machine.

And so the middle class taxpayers foot the bill. It's a wonderful racket capitalism :)

Take your communism elsewhere. If a company wants to buy an expensive laptop, it's their prerogative. Tax payers don't pay for it; the owners of the company pay for it.

I swear, our education system is failing us...
 
No remorse here.. 1st mac ever, and I'm loving how fast working with large designs in photoshop is. Amazing! I don't have any issues in AI either. CS5.5, (I don't have v6)
 
No buyers remorse in terms of the hardware. The hardware is fantastic and hat they've shaved off the weight and thickness has really made a difference.

What is disappointing is that the software really, truly is not up to the task. This machine takes anywhere up to thirty seconds to wake from sleep, double that of my two year old windows machine with a traditional HDD. I really do hope this gets fixed either in a patch or with ML. As it stands it seems like the software is really struggling to cope.
 
A little, but not much. It was neck and neck between the 13" MBA with 2.0GHz i7 and 8GB of RAM or the base rMBP. In the end, the Air would have cost me $1,629 and the rMBP, with the dedicated graphics, bigger screen and better resolution was $370 more, or probably $10 a month for the life of the machine.

It's my first Mac and I love it, but $2,000 is still a lot of money for anything.
 
How do you know the middle class pay for it? He might sell superyachts or banjos?

I'm guessing the poster is thinking because the business gets to deduct expenses, taxes are avoided that then fall to the middle class. Typical statist zero sum thinking.
 
This machine takes anywhere up to thirty seconds to wake from sleep, double that of my two year old windows machine with a traditional HDD. I really do hope this gets fixed either in a patch or with ML. As it stands it seems like the software is really struggling to cope.

WHAT? 30 seconds to wake from sleep? I don't believe you. Are you talking hibernate or sleep? My 2010 MBP wakes from sleep in less than half a second.
 
Ordered a rMBP about a week after the release and was thoroughly excited. Then the anandtech review came out, which I felt was very thorough and credible. As a result, buyer's remorse set in big time and I had to cancel my order :(

Waiting for ML to be released-if the lag issues are resolved I'll place another order, otherwise I'm waiting for Haswell.
 
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