I have done this for the past three years with Apple. I either buy two or three from the start and return one or two. Usually one has an issue (pixel issues, dust under the screen, etc) and the other is fine. Rarely the first one i open is fine, so I send the second back unopened. I did not need to do this until 2010 - when their quality control went down the tubes. I have done this probably 10 times from the Apple online store and have never had an issue with being blocked from buying. I will continue to do this unless Apple proves that i don't need to do so. Sadly, quality conrol just seems to be getting worse. Get off of your high horses and think practically. This is simply using Apple's return policy. I don't have the time to play a one-at-a-time return and exchange lottery.
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Resolved Buying several iPads and refund the "bad ones"
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I think we all want an ipad because we like the product. If we are paying $500+ for a device we expect it to be free from defects. Some ipads clearly are defective. If you don't consider a screen that has a very noticeable yellow tint across 1/3 of the screen a defect than I dont know what else to say. Some are more subtle than others but the one's i've come across were all very distracting in daily use. Even the Apple genius was a bit shockd after he opend 5 boxes on the spot for me. I felt horrible and even said No it's okay I'll just return it for now. It was his insistance and to keep trying one more and even tried other carriers for me. Quite a nice guy
It was on the 5th one and 11th one for me that we both decided to give up. One of them was super bad. It was Pink, white and yellow. Apple genius was even like OMG this one is horrible!
Who is talking about buying 12 iPads? And who is talking about looking into the iPads under a microscope? Jesus. We're talking about a disgusting hue that is clearly visible.
I'm not sure my standards are on par with some of those here, with the countless apple products I've had including recent purchases such as a Mac Air, iPad Air, 3 5s', and a rmini I've yet to return one or notice issues with the screen, opening up 20 tabs so safari crashes and so forth. I almost feel like I'm not holding apple accountable for the ****** qc.
I don't blame you. My iPad Air came with a yellowish border, and a month later it got darker and greenish, extremely annoying. What do I do now? Can't do anything. I wish I had gone for a near perfect screen, exchanged as many times as possible, because now Apple is cool, but I'm not fine with a bad bad screen.
In other words, you didn't get the response you thought you would get. There weren't enough high fives and hugs cheering you on for what appears to be a drastic measure to what you see as being an obvious problem so the thread, in it's entirety, can be closed until people can rally behind you. Right? FWIW, I would give you a high five and a hug even if I disagreed with your decisions.
With this being said, you are and always will be the best candidate for a refurbished iPad. the iPad Air has clearly been bought and exchanged by many on this forum. This forum, not being the utopia that some believe, does not represent a high volume of people who have bought and exchanged their iPads; however, it does indicate that the refurb store online will have a great deal of iPad Airs that can be bought at a discount. These iPad Airs will have undergone another level of QC, the level many recall, and you are likely going to get an iPad Air that meets your expectations.
That is my advice to you. Perhaps that will result in you "winning the iPad lottery" and reduce the amount of cash you need to front to buy multiple iPads. Thoughts on that?
So basically you're saying that to get what he wants, he should also continue to waste his time and do the needless?
You can buy multiple iPads online with the same ID and credit card.
There is a great deal to add but I am sure it is comforting to see someone agree with your thought process. In fairness, if I were being overly dramatic and drastic in my decision making, I too would applaud and encourage support.
This is where I stand. I received a retina Mini as a gift. The first one came with a dent on the back. I didn't need a 10x loupe or microscope to find it. It was there and only discovered the second I opened the iPad because I flipped it over to stick it into a case. The iPad Mini's screen appeared to be great, as great as I expected it to be. I returned it, received another and it was dent free. This was expected and demanded; however, the screen also seemed fine. The gamma is lower, I knew this going in and it does not bother me one bit. I am not sure if my screen is just awesome or if I fail to see the flaws. I've written that previously.
In some way I wonder if I too am missing it and not holding Apple accountable for their shoddy QC. I do not deny that Apple's QC has indeed declined. My measure of decline starts from their intro to the Intel days, long before the iPad. The problem is, I cannot find a flaw that really puts a dent in my day. I also feel as though I enjoy this iPad as much as I enjoyed my iPad 1 and iPad 3, both of them were bought and the iPad 1 was only returned as the glass was literally not attached to the bezel completely. Flaws that would otherwise cause Apple to decline honoring a warranty later on (dents, glass coming up, etc) are flaws I do not accept. I don't doubt that some screens are bad, but I'm not sure it warrants multiple purchases at once.
At this point, if I were in the OP's shoes I would skip the iPad altogether. I believe the amount of stress I read in his posts outweighs the need to enjoy a product that to me is more of a luxury.
I think even people with actual OCD would be offended here. Unless buying and returning multiple iPads is part of the OCD you're referring to, I think there's a another and a better word for this behavior. Unfortunately, I do not know what to call it.
Seeking a device with a good screen is certainly not OCD behavior and probably doesn't come with a diagnosis. I agree however that purchasing multiple devices at the same time is excessive and inappropriate behavior. Most iPads probably come with good or reasonable screens but there are some that don't - I returned 3 iPad Airs with yellow screens before getting a 4th with a good screen. I think the multiple returns seen here are done by people like myself who love Apple products but want the quality that Apple is capable of providing. When it is good it is great. I find comments about OCD and those that imply that because I haven't had to return an Apple product there must be something wrong with you or your standards, to be offensive and not helpful. I don't know what my limit on returns might have been, but when you have had iPads with beautiful, bright even colored screens it is hard to settle for less.
I suppose it is a good thing that I never stated or implied that I tie the behavior to OCD then, right?
I can see the next iPad costing us all at least another $100-$150 more.
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That is simply no true as part of the profit margin is always waching the QC.
They can not make everyone happy, at least some of the people here. They think that for what they pay all should be perfect in their eyes. It is just not practical for their Apple stuff and for life in general.
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That is simply no true as part of the profit margin is always waching the QC.
They can not make everyone happy, at least some of the people here. They think that for what they pay all should be perfect in their eyes. It is just not practical for their Apple stuff and for life in general.
I agree, "OCD" isn't really the right word. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive–compulsive_disorder
While the definition of persnickety does fit the behavior, the word just doesn't have the same ring to it.
I suppose it is a good thing that I never stated or implied that I tie the behavior to OCD then, right?
Right.
I can see the next iPad costing us all at least another $100-$150 more.
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I doubt it, but if that's what it takes to get a good screen the first time, I'll pay it.
I personally find it more offensive for people to buy iPads just to try them (though Apple supposedly condones this) or to borrow one while waiting for the release of another, than returning a product because you aren't happy with it, but that's just my opinion.[COLOR="#808080"]
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Nor is it as insulting or fun to say, but every bit as unhelpful to the topic at hand.
Seems quite relevant to the sub-topic of naming the behavior. True, it isn't as fun to say -- and it's pretty common so it shouldn't bother anyone but those who are always looking for an excuse to be offended. If the person using the term wished to offend there's more salty language they'd use.
Yes, I think persnickety is more general behavior, if someone is persnickety, they always are persnickety to things.
What I'm calling OCD here is like contracting a virus. It's a transition from a healthy person to an ill one. Someone buys an iPad and the screen looks great to them. After days or weeks of happy usage they stumble upon these threads and all of a sudden, their screen is not good anymore. That's what I call OCD here.
How about calling it MROCD then?
This shouldn't offend the actual general OCD patients.
Yes, I think persnickety is more general behavior, if someone is persnickety, they always are persnickety to things.
What I'm calling OCD here is like contracting a virus. It's a transition from a healthy person to an ill one. Someone buys an iPad and the screen looks great to them. After days or weeks of happy usage they stumble upon these threads and all of a sudden, their screen is not good anymore. That's what I call OCD here.
How about calling it MROCD then?
You are still using the definition of OCD inappropriately. OCD is a serious medical condition that you are mocking with your inaccurate usage.
Many here probably have had noticeable screen issues out of the box, while others may have been influenced by the power of suggestion. Either way, you are not qualified to state who is suffering from OCD on the forum. A diagnosis of such cannot be made by doing what you have been doing.
It would work much better, if you dispensed with the OCD rhetoric.
Respectfully, you're taking the usage of the term too seriously. The term is a common colloquialism that few would likely confuse with the actual disorder. JMHO, but it's rather silly to think anyone is making a medical diagnosis on MacRumors.
Couple of links as food for thought:
http://mentalillnessmouse.tumblr.co...o-you-feel-about-people-misusing-the-term-ocd
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1583316/
http://beyondocd.org/information-for-individuals/what-ocd-isnt
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This. Goodness gracious. Some people are entirely way too sensitive around here.
Anyway, OP, if that's what it takes that's what it takes. You know what they say about smoke and fire .......
So you're saying consumers shouldn't be entitled to a screen that doesn't have yellow or uneven tints?
My iPad is fine, but I certainly acknowledge this issue. If the screens are as subpar as many are saying - and there's no reason not to believe them - then why NOT do your own personal QC until you get one that you are happy plunking down your hard earned cash for?