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End this thread and admit iPhone is good but not great and a marketing blunder?

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Well after several weeks I finally sold my UK ‘unlocked to any O2 sim card’ iPhone.
I was never going to partake of the 18 month contract. Leaving aside the pathetic call and text bundles on offer I feel 18 months is 6 months to long for any mobile phone contract.

I have got shot for a number of reasons.

1. The poor camera meant I was back to carrying a separate digital one. Very annoying.
2. Edge coverage (when you can get it) is only ok for web browsing.
3. I was feed up of people moaning that I keep on sending them two text messages with only one word in the second message. All this due to the iPhones lack of a simple character counter.
4. No Bluetooth file transfer. All your mates are swapping files around you and your sitting there with latest, greatest phone and you can’t join in. That’s just wrong.
5. That would make a great ringtone for my phone. Hold on till I set that up. Dam it. I can’t do that either.
6. Most annoying of all was not being able to set a decent SMS tone. I never once heard the thing go off in my pocket.
I know there are several ways round some of these problems but as with unlocking the phone and 3rd party appz, you’re in a consent battle with apple. It’s just not worth the hassle. Not for a phone and especially not this phone.

To some up, iPhone is brilliant in some ways. Connected to Wi-Fi and its interface makes the best portable web browser by far. But in many others resects, some key to being a usable mobile phone, it fails miserably.
Many may disagree with the above but most will agree with this....The whole affair has been one hell of a marketing disaster.
Better Luck next time apple.


PS. Using an Nokia N95 8GB now and feel right at home again after what seems like a just ok holiday with 6 day flight delays on either side.

I actually agree with ALL of these and i am SERIOUSLY considering selling mine. Just haven't really found a suitable replacement yet.
 
Admit it you lot have wasted money on a phone designed for the US market place.
I have admited it and ditched the iPhone.

So you came to an Apple Mac forum and then the iPhone sub-forums to tell iPhone users that they have "wasted money" on their phones??

Are you gonna pay a visit to the Macbook forums here and tell everyone how they've "wasted money" there too??

The whole aim of this thread was not to provide new insight, solutions or help into the flaws almost all forum members here are aware of with the iPhone at all, was it?

What do you expect people to do, ignore their iPhone purchase and contracts and run down to their local Vodafone store and get a Nokia 95 8Gb on a new contract?? (Not too bad an idea seeing as I work in one of the largest ones :D)
 
So you came to an Apple Mac forum and then the iPhone sub-forums to tell iPhone users that they have "wasted money" on their phones??

Are you gonna pay a visit to the Macbook forums here and tell everyone how they've "wasted money" there too??

The whole aim of this thread was not to provide new insight, solutions or help into the flaws almost all forum members here are aware of with the iPhone at all, was it?

What do you expect people to do, ignore their iPhone purchase and contracts and run down to their local Vodafone store and get a Nokia 95 8Gb on a new contract?? (Not too bad an idea seeing as I work in one of the largest ones :D)

I belive some ppl are very happy with their iPhones and woundnt change them for the world. Others I think, if they are honest, are very dissapointed with iPhone and dont wont to admit it. And they really dont want to admint it when they have tied it to O2 for 18 months.
I just tell it how it is....and admit I made a mistake buying into iPhone. I am not stating I hate apple products or will be giving Macbook owners a hard time, I just think apple got the iphone wrong. Perhaps version2 will be better and if it is I might get one. I just ask people to ask themselves - 'Is my iPhone really that good?'
 
'Willy Waver'???.......Did you hear that one in the playground today??
Or you just like waving yours?

Using bluetooth to exchange files is the work of idiots is it. No No No....more like sour grapes as that apple you have cant. ;)

'Clunky, unimpressive with piss poor battery life'........well its a bit fatter than iPhone and shorter. Might suit your person being such a 'willy waver'

Unimpressive???...ok N95 8GB has no touch screen...but does everthing the iphone can do and more.

As for battery life.....the original N95 could have been considered piss poor on the battery life but the N95 8gb uses a differnt battery model all together offering 50-75% more standby.

I adivise you to go ly down in a darkened room with a cup of tea and have a wee rethink.

Well stop trolling then!!!!

I know the N95's not THAT bad, but lets be honest your just a penny scrimping gainsaying internet troll!
 
Just wait until iPhone 2. It will be better than the N95 and any other model N phone nokia has, and cost cheaper. ;)
 
Admit it you lot have wasted money on a phone designed for the US market place.

I have admited it and ditched the iPhone.

I admit I have wasted money on a phone designed for the US marketplace - wait, I'm in the US marketplace.... :eek:

All the iPhone copies should be out within the next few months. I've started to see the Sprint HTC Touch phone more and more. There will be a suitable touchscreen phone that you should like...
 
Well stop trolling then!!!!

I know the N95's not THAT bad, but lets be honest your just a penny scrimping gainsaying internet troll!

Go back into the stinking little hole which you popped out off!:D
 
Just wait until iPhone 2. It will be better than the N95 and any other model N phone nokia has, and cost cheaper. ;)

yeah....and I might be able to a buy a sim free one and not live in fear of Jobs and co bricking me for putting my own rigtones on and installing a simple card game.
 
You can put your own ringtones on to your iPhone using Garageband.

Simply create a new project and using the Media browser drag and drop your desired song from your iTunes library in to the Garageband score.

Once the track's in there make a selection of no more than 40 seconds by clicking on loop and dragging in the selection bar above the score.

When you're happy with your selection, you'll find an option to export to a ringtone for iPhone in the Share menu!

Sadly Garageband can't unlock your iPhone…
 
If you had bothered to read what I said you would have understood I rate the iPhone head and shoulders above any mobile for web browsing.......but only when connected to Wi-Fi. On EDGE (if you can get it) the iPhone performs just ok. Opera Mini can give a decent web browseing experance on GPRS.....iphone on GRPS is unusable. The fact of the matter is that iPhone should have been 3G. EDGE is not up to the job. Admit it you lot have wasted money on a phone designed for the US market place.
I have admited it and ditched the iPhone.

Oh I bothered to read your post and I am in the US market. So yes the phone was designed for me. Edge works just fine for me. I also have Verizon with my Treo 700WX and can honestly say where I am there isn't much difference in browsing speeds as I do not get EVDO in all of the areas I travel to so not much difference there. Oh did I also mention I have an HTC Kaiser? That happens to be on AT&T oh and guess what not too much 3G coverage with that either so yes the iPhone was made for me in the US and gets relatively equal speeds compared to that as well with the benefit of having a longer lasting battery. So tout the 3G connections all you want the simple fact is it does not make a damn bit of difference if you can't get the signal anyway. It simply appears that your post was brought here to start these kinds of antagonizing comments. Well my Kaiser is better than your N95. How’s that?
 
The OP is simply ignorant for calling the iPhone a marketing disaster. It is such a disaster that every company that signed with the iPhone is making new customers and lots of money. On top of that, companies that didn't get the iPhone are desperately attempting to advertise new phones wishing that they would sell like the iPhone. Take a look on TV. Here in the US I can't watch TV for more than an hour without seeing at least 2 or 3 Verizon commercials trying to push their network and phones. I usually only see an iPhone commercial maybe 5 times in a week. For every whining unsatisfied customer like you there are about 20 extremely happy customers. Surveys have shown that iPhone customer satisfaction is extremely high, something that is almost never seen in cell phones. You can say all you want about barriers Apple put up and how many more they could have sold without the barriers, but the iPhone selling better than pretty much any phone in history is a success no matter what way you try to spin it. At the end of the day Apple is making millions of dollars off the iPhone, whether it is sold to someone who should have done more research like you or to someone who knew iPhone was right for them.
 
For a cameraphone, this is more than good enough quality for me.

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Just wait until iPhone 2. It will be better than the N95 and any other model N phone nokia has, and cost cheaper. ;)

Surely Nokia will have another model by then, to keep up with the times? I mean, we're probably talking two years here.
 
But you have to ask yourself....how good a camera does the average joe really need to carry.
One better than the iPhone is for sure.....but even though the 5MP on my N95 8GB is better than the 3.2MP on the K800i.......the 3.2MP was fine for me.

That's a highly subjective question - I, for example, have decided I need a DSLR, and picked up a Canon Digital Rebel XT. No camera phone could hope to replace that and the portability of the camera phone is irrelevant to me. But as the cameras in phones get better they are sure to cross into decent point-and-shoot territory. I suppose it's convenient to have the phone and camera in one package, although that means when you get rid of one you have to get rid of the other as well...
 
Admit it you lot have wasted money on a phone designed for the US market place.
I have admited it and ditched the iPhone.
You shouldn't assume everyone's requirements are the same as yours. I bought my iPhone about 6 weeks ago and it is, without a doubt, the best gadget I've ever owned. Over the last few years I've tried numerous devices in an attempt to get the perfect mobile experience for my requirements: A small sample is as follows:

Orange SPV
Orange SPV E100
Sony Ericsson P900
Nokia E61
Nokia N95
Orange SPV M3100
Samsung i600

I've also tried an N800 tablet with a simple 3G phone

All of these left me cold after a few weeks due to limitations and / or annoyances

However, the iPhone just gets better and better IMO. This is what it allows me to do:

1) Browse the internet with the best browsing experience on a portable device I've ever had. Brilliant on WiFi, great on EDGE (at least where I've used it), and painful but possible on GPRS (only ever had to use GPRS in the Scottish Highlands and the fact I could still log on and check my bank account from the top of a mountain made up for the slow speed!)
2) E-Mail. The E-mail client on the iPhone is (when coupled with an IMAP server) outstanding and has the feel of "real" e-mail which is something that all the other devices I've used failed to do
3) iPod - I have 36 albums, 2 movies and 16 hours of TV shows currently on my iPhone. Whilst this isn't as much as I can fit on my classic, it is more than enough to keep me amused! The integration between the iPod and phone functionality is superb and makes the whole experience even better. The iPhone also plugs straight into my Harman Kardon Drive and Play and gives me full access to my music from my car complete with browsable albums, etc. As an iPod it has everything (except extreme capacity) any other iPod I've owned has had, and then some: Watching videos on this device is a joy
4) Phone - As a phone it has far better sound quality than any of the ones I've listed above, and is simple and easy to use
5) SMS - love the way the SMS shows as a chat thread. Could be improved by the ability to send to multiple recipients, but it's not the end of the world
6) Interface - what can I say? The touch display is out of the top drawer and is head and shoulders above any other portable device I've ever used, both for general use and inputing text
7) Camera - fine for what I ever use a camera phone for (quick snaps). For serious photography I always use my D200 SLR

On the things the iPhone lacks, here's my take:

1) MMS - I can understand why people want this but it's really not an issue for me: I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of MMS messages I've ever sent so don't miss it at all
2) Bluetooth file transfer - Again, can see why people might want it but it's not something I've ever really used so don't miss it
3) Custom Ringtones - got that covered off with 1.1.2: Quicktime or Garageband do the trick
4) Custom Apps - I jailbroke my phone when I first got it, but found I wasn't really using any of the apps beyond the standard set so put it back to how it came out of the box and haven't really missed not being able to install custom apps and can wait until the SDK comes out this year
5) 3G - before I got the iPhone I always thought the lack of 3G would be a deal killer. It honestly isn't for me: EDGE works perfectly quick enough for my requirements and whilst I wouldn't complain if the iPhone had HSDPA speeds, I'd far rather have iPhone on EDGE than any of the others on 3G
6) GPS - I've had phones with GPS in and never used it (beyond a five minute play because it was there) - I've got Sat Nav integrated in my car which does a far better job than any phone could hope to do!
7) 18 month lock-in to O2. So What? I moved from Orange to O2 for the iPhone and (so far), I've found the O2 coverage better, faster and more reliable than Orange. I'm more than happy with O2 and don't envisage moving away from them now.

In conclusion, whilst the iPhone may not be perfect, it is, for my requirements, the best fit I've ever had and the things it's missing are nowhere near as important as the things it has. I absolutely love my iPhone and it is the best investment in Technology I've ever made in my life :D
 
I purchased my iPhone about a week after it came out. I was so excited with the iPhone, I purchased some Apple stock. I have been more than pleased with both purchases!:D

Mike
 
Well I'd love to contribute to this forum and thread but I'm to busy on the Nokia forums telling them their phones suck.
 
Please for the love of English teachers in the country, learn to spell. Actually reading your text before posting would be nice.

Example.

To some up. WFT does that mean? some in this case is a word pertaining to the fact that the subject is plural. Correction. To sum up. sum in this context is summing up all the above points.

Nothing to see, move on.
 
That's a highly subjective question - I, for example, have decided I need a DSLR, and picked up a Canon Digital Rebel XT. No camera phone could hope to replace that and the portability of the camera phone is irrelevant to me. But as the cameras in phones get better they are sure to cross into decent point-and-shoot territory. I suppose it's convenient to have the phone and camera in one package, although that means when you get rid of one you have to get rid of the other as well...

Anyone I know belives that when the SE K800i and the likes of the Nokia N80 launched (now that was a crap phone), the 'cross over' between mobile cameras and standard cameras happened, for the average person.
 
On the things the iPhone lacks, here's my take:

1) MMS - I can understand why people want this but it's really not an issue for me: I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of MMS messages I've ever sent so don't miss it at all
2) Bluetooth file transfer - Again, can see why people might want it but it's not something I've ever really used so don't miss it
3) Custom Ringtones - got that covered off with 1.1.2: Quicktime or Garageband do the trick
4) Custom Apps - I jailbroke my phone when I first got it, but found I wasn't really using any of the apps beyond the standard set so put it back to how it came out of the box and haven't really missed not being able to install custom apps and can wait until the SDK comes out this year
5) 3G - before I got the iPhone I always thought the lack of 3G would be a deal killer. It honestly isn't for me: EDGE works perfectly quick enough for my requirements and whilst I wouldn't complain if the iPhone had HSDPA speeds, I'd far rather have iPhone on EDGE than any of the others on 3G
6) GPS - I've had phones with GPS in and never used it (beyond a five minute play because it was there) - I've got Sat Nav integrated in my car which does a far better job than any phone could hope to do!
7) 18 month lock-in to O2. So What? I moved from Orange to O2 for the iPhone and (so far), I've found the O2 coverage better, faster and more reliable than Orange. I'm more than happy with O2 and don't envisage moving away from them now.

In conclusion, whilst the iPhone may not be perfect, it is, for my requirements, the best fit I've ever had and the things it's missing are nowhere near as important as the things it has. I absolutely love my iPhone and it is the best investment in Technology I've ever made in my life :D

I am happy that you like the iPhone but your 'lack list' breaks the deal for me.

The O2 18 month contract is a TOTAL RIP OFF!
To get custom ringtones and appz you have to Jailbreak the phone and are in a consent battle with firmware updates. Also the if the phone screws up and needs repair apple will tell you to get lost. WHO IN THERE RIGHT MIND WOULD BE BOTHERED WITH ALL THAT!!
 
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