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Bye Bye... iPhone....Bye Bye
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I completely agree with that. And to tell you the truth if the next one is even that much better I will buy it too. And extend my contract again.
When you ppl dont buy your product, not due to lack of funds, but due to silly restrictions......that is a marketing blunder. Even apple know this now....but will never admit it. They will just launch V2 in the correct fashion and spin it to to suit them.
I have no problem with contrats....as long as they dont take the pi*s.
And no I aint a 'calling card type' and in no way have credit problems. In fact quite the opposite
Well sounds like you're well on your way to running Apple. Conrats on being smarter than one of the most successful marketing teams this year. I wish I was that smart... Of course I'd probably pick a better place to use my super genius than this forum.
Or maybe you're talking about something you don't understand. Stop taking you're completely unresearched OPINIONS and acting like you're some marketing whiz. You're not. You could always try for a job on the Microsoft marketing team. Other than that I doubt you'll find anyone to agree with your bizarre statements.
Enough with the SHOUTING and insults - I wonder whether you would be so keen on behaving that way face-to-face, rather than cowering behind internet anonymity..
You are very keen on telling everyone in your signature that you don't pay for "the silly O2 contract" because you have jailbroken your phone and use a cheaper SIM-only tariff. I'm very happy with my iPhone and I'm happy to pay the contract cost legally. 18-month contracts are becoming the standard in the UK, and in the US the minimum contract is two years, so we got off lightly in some respects.
Despite what you might read elsewhere, the iPhone is subsidised by the contract cost. This was demonstrated when the unlocked price of the iPhone in Germany was unveiled as £745. Sounds astronomical, but remember that Nokia sells the unlocked n95 8GB on its own website for £500. Are we to believe that the true unlocked retail cost of an n95 is almost twice that of an iPhone? Of course not. The iPhone's development was an enormously costly affair, involving the introduction of new technology like the multi-touch display, and no less than 200 patents. The n95 is basically a repackaging of readily available technology in a stubby little box.
If that makes the iPhone a luxury item, so be it. I don't think Rolex will be making plastic watches just so more people can buy them.. That business model is working extremely well for Apple, and Forbes magazine has called it a "stunning success". I assume they know a bit more about "marketing disasters" than you.
You lot are starting to bore me now.
You are so in love with you iPhone you just cant admit these two basic facts:
1. iPhone....great in many ways...flawed in others.
2. iPhone.....more would have sold if marketed as other mobile phones are.
You are so in love with you iPhone you just cant admit these two basic facts:
1. iPhone....great in many ways...flawed in others.
2. iPhone.....more would have sold if marketed as other mobile phones are.
When you ppl dont buy your product, not due to lack of funds, but due to silly restrictions......that is a marketing blunder. Even apple know this now....but will never admit it. They will just launch V2 in the correct fashion and spin it to to suit them.
I have no problem with contrats....as long as they dont take the pi*s.
And no I aint a 'calling card type' and in no way have credit problems. In fact quite the opposite
I highly doubt that apple will change their highly successful business model for the release of v.2. Once again (for someone who accuses others of not being able to read it doesn't seem to be one of your strong points) the iPhone has been a huge success for apple.
Let me reiterate:
Unresearched opinion: "For every 2 people I know with an iPhone I know 6 more who wouldve bought one".
Fact: Apple's launch of the iPhone was one of the most successful launches in mobile phone history. Its sales have exceeded even apple's expectations.
The iPhone has sold more than any other mobile phone being marketed the way it is. How can you be 100% sure that the exclusive deal isn't part of what is driving the sales? You can't, you only assume. If open availability is the key to marketing then why aren't there other phones out there that have sold 5 million in 6 months?
oh....this is painful now.
You lot are so blinded by the love of all things apple you cant see past the core.
Of course iPhone has sold more than any other phone in that that period. How could it not have given the press hype and the simple 'I want that factor'
But...and for the final time.....THEY COULD HAVE SOLD EVEN MORE IF THEY HAD NOT LIMITED THE SALES TO CONTRACT ONLY.
You lot are so blinded by the love of all things apple you cant see past the core.
Of course iPhone has sold more than any other phone in that that period. How could it not have given the press hype and the simple 'I want that factor'
But...and for the final time.....THEY COULD HAVE SOLD EVEN MORE IF THEY HAD NOT LIMITED THE SALES TO CONTRACT ONLY.
I'm a he,..unsurprisingly....original retort there, i haven't heard that one before
Your just plain WRONG
If you were a shop, and were offered a product on which you knew you wouldn't make any money on at POS (point of sale) and which you couldn't guarantee would make your company any money after POS...AND you had to upgrade your entire network infrastructure to sell it..you wouldn't. Despite the halo effect, if it means your customer base stays unchanged you wouldn't do it, because as your friends point out with their cheapskate ways, they aren't prepared to take part in the upsell.
Which is essentially what the iphone is, it's an upsell from a normal mobile phone. Which is why O2's sales have a large percentage of new subscribers such as myself, jumping from other networks! (before you say...how can you prove that, i have a few friends at o2 one of whom is in the upper management and consequently KNOWS the sales figures)
I wish that was the case, unfortunately you can't stop biting and want the last word, you want to leave it but it eats you up inside with burning desire to get the last word even if it is wrong as has been proved time and time and time again throughout this thread
Your just plain WRONG
If you were a shop, and were offered a product on which you knew you wouldn't make any money on at POS (point of sale) and which you couldn't guarantee would make your company any money after POS...AND you had to upgrade your entire network infrastructure to sell it..you wouldn't. Despite the halo effect, if it means your customer base stays unchanged you wouldn't do it, because as your friends point out with their cheapskate ways, they aren't prepared to take part in the upsell.
Which is essentially what the iphone is, it's an upsell from a normal mobile phone. Which is why O2's sales have a large percentage of new subscribers such as myself, jumping from other networks! (before you say...how can you prove that, i have a few friends at o2 one of whom is in the upper management and consequently KNOWS the sales figures)
I wish that was the case, unfortunately you can't stop biting and want the last word, you want to leave it but it eats you up inside with burning desire to get the last word even if it is wrong as has been proved time and time and time again throughout this thread
I already tried to get this point across earlier, he didnt seem to be able to grasp such a complex idea so i gave up.
I'm a he,..unsurprisingly....original retort there, i haven't heard that one before
Your just plain WRONG
If you were a shop, and were offered a product on which you knew you wouldn't make any money on at POS (point of sale) and which you couldn't guarantee would make your company any money after POS...AND you had to upgrade your entire network infrastructure to sell it..you wouldn't. Despite the halo effect, if it means your customer base stays unchanged you wouldn't do it, because as your friends point out with their cheapskate ways, they aren't prepared to take part in the upsell.
Which is essentially what the iphone is, it's an upsell from a normal mobile phone. Which is why O2's sales have a large percentage of new subscribers such as myself, jumping from other networks! (before you say...how can you prove that, i have a few friends at o2 one of whom is in the upper management and consequently KNOWS the sales figures)
LOL.....just have a good long look and think about what you have written there. Think about how the current non iPhone mobile market works (flawed in many ways too) and how at each stage everyone gets their cut.
Its clear to me that you no nothing about how 'money makes the world go round' and have very little knowledge regarding marketing in general. Just because Apple is a big company, dont mean to say they always get it right marketing wise - remember 'Coke Classic'......no? Yur sound like your 14 or 15 years old, and nothing is more important than your shiny new apple phone. Well all this might change with the love of a good women - if you can put your phone down long enough to aquire one.
But I doubt it.Work on your spelling and grammar and we might take that remark more seriously.
Work on your spelling and grammar and we might take that remark more seriously.
Work on a better retort and I might not just think of you while flushing the toilet.
Was that 'Media Degree' purchased online off some 'Get a Degree Today' site.
Mmmm. I fear it might have been 'Dr' Moel
Turn your mac off and go to bed.....mummy will be coming up soon to turn the light off anyway!
The line between trolls and legitimate posts blurs when the mudslinging becomes more fun than the topic itself. Point taken. I'm getting out before the lock.
Point taken. I'm getting out before the lock.
The line between trolls and legitimate posts blurs when the mudslinging becomes more fun than the topic itself.
Yes I aggree.....lets end it now.
So it goodnight from him
and goodnight from me 
The line between trolls and legitimate posts blurs when the mudslinging becomes more fun than the topic itself.
I don't think the OP is a troll - he's getting himself far too wound up
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