A couple years back I had an iPhone 5. I gave that to my wife and got a Galaxy S4. I mainly wanted a larger screen and was tired of apple forcing the small screens on me when my large hands wanted something bigger. I grew tired of Android very quick. I couldn't wait for the iPhone 6 to come out so I could switch back. I have the same complaints many have had. What was originally a snappy phone quickly started lagging. It got old.
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Bye Bye iPhone: Have You Been There?
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Some bold words, given that some great phones came out this year...and I'm glad to hear it! Might be off topic, but may I ask why you thought the 6 plus was the worst at the time, while the 6s plus is the best?
I used to be there, having an Android for personal and iPhone for work, but I dumped my personal line and am using my work phone now as both.
I used to have an Asus Zenfone 2 for the dual sim and to carry one phone, but I started having issues with that, and went back to my old iPhone 5s once I dumped my personal line.
When I upgrade my 5s, it will be still be iPhone
As many people here, I've made a quick shift from iOS to Android.
It was like 2 years ago when I had an iPhone 4s (Been having some phones but every iPhone from the 3G to this 4s). Decided to buy a used Galaxy Nexus to try out Android. And at first I liked it. I was like wow wtf Apple you're way far from Android at this point. So I decided to buy a brand new Nexus 4.
Here came my happiness to customize my phone, but I quickly got bored of the bad battery life, this customization, the lack of phone cases in stores, having to google every single thing I wanted to do on my phone because I couldn't figure out how to do it..
Bought an iPhone 5 as a second phone with this Nexus 4 and ended up selling the Nexus. Then I only had iPhones, from this 5 to the actual 6s.
Here I am with my iPhone 6s Plus.
Android is good coming from iOS since you discover that you can do so much more stuff on it. But you have things that can annoy you too. This is soooo personal, but iOS is very THE mobile OS for me. AND, having a nice & premium phone makes me happy.
If you don't want to buy a phone for that much money, you like customization & don't think you're going to get bored of it, like being "free" with your device, Android may be for you. You need to figure it out by yourself! Buying an android flagship will help you make your mind I guess.
I seriously don't understand why third-party keyboards are so awful on the iPhone. They've had a couple years to figure this out. I hate Apple's default keyboard and when I try a third party keyboard, like Swiftkey, it just defaults to the Apple one, or it takes a long time to pop up. Your complaint is valid and Apple really dropped the ball on this one.
Left android after 6 years. The novelty wore off and rooting became a pita. If not for the plus, I would still be on android for the screen size alone.
Anyway at 1st I didn't like iOS as I was using all the Google apps. I imported all the info into the cloud, deleted Google and for now, Apple can keep me. Android needs to clean up and stop selling users short of they want me back
Anyway at 1st I didn't like iOS as I was using all the Google apps. I imported all the info into the cloud, deleted Google and for now, Apple can keep me. Android needs to clean up and stop selling users short of they want me back
I'm a little ignorant when it comes to phones, not because I don't like them or because I'm an Apple fanboi, but because I just don't care. Despite its drawbacks, I'm really invested into Apple's ecosystem and I'm fine with that. I know that other Android phones have more features, but I actually enjoy owning iOS devices because their feature set is predictable. I can upgrade to the new iPhone every year and it's literally a 30 minute process to import my old data into my new phone. My notes and files sync to my other various Apple devices and I don't really need to hassle with anything.
Not everyone will agree with me, but I think that we can all coexist.
Not everyone will agree with me, but I think that we can all coexist.
I was careful to say best iPhone
The 6 plus was just laggy, I had the most app crashes I have ever seen, safari tabs would reload, safari would often (about 1/20 pages) give me "page could not load error". These are all issues I did not have before NEARLY as much as I did with the 6 plus. The 6s Plus addressed all those concerns.
I made the shift to Android around the iPhone 4 time but quickly went back to iPhone as the Galaxy S4 I bought just wasn't up to par in speed and camera response.
Fast forward to now, I went from an iPhone 6 to the Galaxy S6 Edge. I've had the S6E for a month and a half now and you could not do anything to make me go back to iPhone.
This is refined device with impressive speed, camera and gives me abilities I cannot get with an iPhone now.
With the issues iOS is now having with bugs, the new phone with different chips, fingerprint sensors getting hot, I really think the days of Apple being all for the consumer are over. IPhone is still a great device, it's just not in a league of their own anymore like it use to be.
Fast forward to now, I went from an iPhone 6 to the Galaxy S6 Edge. I've had the S6E for a month and a half now and you could not do anything to make me go back to iPhone.
This is refined device with impressive speed, camera and gives me abilities I cannot get with an iPhone now.
With the issues iOS is now having with bugs, the new phone with different chips, fingerprint sensors getting hot, I really think the days of Apple being all for the consumer are over. IPhone is still a great device, it's just not in a league of their own anymore like it use to be.
I was careful to say best iPhone
The 6 plus was just laggy, I had the most app crashes I have ever seen, safari tabs would reload, safari would often (about 1/20 pages) give me "page could not load error". These are all issues I did not have before NEARLY as much as I did with the 6 plus. The 6s Plus addressed all those concerns.
Did the regular 6 not have those same problems? I would think so, given it's pretty much the same spec?
Not as much. Regular phone has 750p resolution vs 1080p resolution of 5.5 inch plus phone.
Same processor and graphics have to power a higher resolution display equals lag
I started the smartphone game with a G1 (which I believe was the first android phone? and I absolutely LOVED it. Thought it was the best phone in the world. And to me it was....until it slowed down intensely. The software started acting buggy, etc. So I got the same phone, replacement and started having the same issues. I went and got the first galaxy a while later, and same thing. Loved it at first, os started acting buggy and choppy. Mean while alot of my friends had iPhones and never seemed to have this problem. I eventually tried out one of my friends old iPhone 3G and thought it was pretty nice. The first iPhone i actually purchased was an iPhone 5 and loved iPhones and iOS ever since. my younger brother recently switched from a note I believe, to an iPhone 5s, mom switched from that same galaxy I had, to a 5 and loved it, and my older brother recently switched from G1, to iPhone 4s to 5 now. He loved the 4 and i'm sure he'll love the 5. I now have an iPhone 6 and my dad, the biggest skeptic, had android and got the 6 with me and has absolutely no complaints about it. So much easier for him to use. our laptops, tablets are all apple now. I can definitely understand the financial aspect of wanting to switch, but as far as user experience, I will never go back to android again. Its just not worth the suffering to me.
I guess I got lucky with my 6 Plus. I would have occasional app crashes (probably a handful over the year I owned it) and tons of safari tab reloads, but never really got the page could not load error. After upgrading to iOS 9 and installing content blockers, the safari tab reload issue pretty much went away, leading me to believe the issue was not completely on Apple's end but also had to do with all the bloat and ad crap that site owners were mishandling.I was careful to say best iPhone
The 6 plus was just laggy, I had the most app crashes I have ever seen, safari tabs would reload, safari would often (about 1/20 pages) give me "page could not load error". These are all issues I did not have before NEARLY as much as I did with the 6 plus. The 6s Plus addressed all those concerns.
It depends. I still saw people that complained about safari tab reloading but generally speaking it seemed the 6 may have been a better experience than the 6 Plus. I got used to the 6 Plus speed after a while and it seemed fine, but when I helped my girlfriend set up her 6 after her last phone started going bonkers, I saw that there was a very noticeable difference in smoothness in the UI.
It basically came down to the scaling that the 6 Plus had to do. The native resolution on the 6 Plus was 2208x1242 but Apple would downsample that to a lower resolution of 1920x1080, whereas the 6 always displayed its native resolution of 1443x750. The two phones also had essentially the same GPU so the one in the 6 Plus would have to work harder, which could and in many cases would cause some jankiness and result in a less smooth experience.
It was less noticeable when using the 6 Plus day to day, but placed side by side the difference in smoothness was fairly easy to see. Luckily, the new GPU in the 6S and 6S Plus seems more than capable of handling the downsampling, resulting in a much zippier experience on the 6S Plus.
I cannot disagree with you on the 3rd party keyboards. Your summation of the issues are right on. Apple just doesn't give these keyboard apps all the resources in the system to really make them useful. I have some apps that don't even recognize 3rd party keyboards at all. This was never an issue with Android.
However, there are many other things that I do like with apps on the iPhone. Example Touch ID works with so many more apps in the Apple ecosystem than Android. It's so great being apple to login to my bank or credit card accounts with Touch ID vs having to remember passwords. I do use a password app, so I have them saved in case I need them, but generally have not. I didn't find any of my banking apps supported this feature via Android.
Coming from the Note 4 I really strongly considered the Note 5, it was a natural upgrade (though not really a big one). Nonetheless the issues I have with the Note 4 have not been addressed (ram management, lagging thereby having to clear partition and app cache to make it run smooth, skipping stuttering bluetooth when streaming music) All Androids are blazing fast when you first get them. Yes having the ability customize, select default apps is wonderful on Android. However, sometimes in a PITA too because it will ask you to select over and over sometimes like it doesn't remember. I have no issues with the default Apple apps. IN fact I've grown so disgusted with Google that I really don't want any of their apps parsing my data anymore. Just a person choice!
It's possible. I don't have any content blockers on the 6s plus and it runs great though. I personally don't feel it's a legitimate argument (not implying you're making it) that you need an ad blocker to be able to browse the web on a $750 device. I still stand strongly by my statement that Apple finally fixed the issues of the 6 plus and gave us the phone we deserved last year.
Lag, none (makes sense because of how the screen is displayed). Everything else, including safari reloads, yes.
Try a content blocker. It'll open your eyes to just how slow the trackers make the sites load. It's easily 10x faster. Night and day.
A few years ago I wanted to try out the HTC One. I love the look and feel. To me it was the perfect phone. After two days I returned it to the store. The OS wasn't smooth. Certain apps didn't load or work as well as on the iPhone. So, yes if you enjoy the Android ecosystem that's great. But if you don't then you just don't.
Both ecosystems have their pros and cons. To each their own.
Is there one you might recommend?
I am not against them. I am against having to use them for (what I consider) a usable device. The 6 plus was literally the only device I ever used where I found myself wanting (outside of maybe a feature or two). I felt it was a waste of money, frankly. Never felt that about an iPhone. EVER.
No worries, I understand how ridiculous an argument like that would sound. By no means am I trying to defend Apple's decision to put in 1GB of RAM into the 6 and 6 Plus because I have had the Air 2 almost since its launch and web browsing was an outstanding experience compared to my 6 Plus.
However, I also believe that content creators also have some responsibility as ads and tracking have gotten way out of hand, especially with sites that end up opening new tabs and automatically taking me out of Safari and to the App Store in order to peddle their wares. No! Don't do that, I'm not going to download your ****** software even if you bring me to the App Store and put it right in front of me, free or otherwise. I just don't want it.
Regardless, had Apple put 2GB of RAM into the 6 and 6 Plus, I think everyone would have had a better experience and not run into as many issues with tab reloads. Personally, I think the 6 was pretty much okay aside from this aspect during my use of it for about 3-4 months, but the 6 Plus was definitely undercooked with its UI issues as they demanded a lot from that GPU due to the downscaling and such. That being said, the 6S Plus seems like a winner so far.
@BasicGreatGuy has a thread where he reviews many of the currently available content blockers right here. The reviews are kind of randomly spread throughout the thread so I put together a sort of tier list here with links to all of the full reviews.
As of now it seems like Adblock Fast works pretty well and is free, so that might be a good place to start. I use it as well but I often go back and try out others to see if improvements have been made, since as of now none of them work perfectly for all the places I visit, but of course some are slightly better than others.
Not sure if anyone replied to that issue, but here's how I changed from archive to delete [ bothered the hell outta me too! ]
Settings >> Mail, Contacts.. >> choose your mail account ( I use gmail), and on the next screen tap on your email account ID again >> click on Advanced >> Change ' Move discarded messages into ' from Archive Mailbox to Deleted Mailbox.
Tap on ' Account ' to go back, and then tap ' Done '
You're set, but if you have multiple email accounts these steps have to repeated for each one!
Touch ID is AWESOME. There is no doubt about it. The keyboard issue really is my only gripe at this point, I'm quite happy that I made the switch. I can definitely see the good points about both OS. I don't really have any issues with Android, I didn't leave out of frustration or any bad experience. There are certain things that bug me (ram management being a big one), and I agree with you completely about google.
In any event, I've decided I'm keeping my iPhone, I'm really enjoying it so far