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I wasn't the one you asked in your reply, so I wasn't replying to the question and simply asking a clarification question out if curiosity.

That said, this thread outlines at least a few items (a number of times) that have been omitted or changed in a way that made them at least somewhat less useful than before as far as the iOS 7 calendar app goes and its integration with the iOS 7 notification center.

Guess I'll go back and read 5 pages to find out what I'm not missing. Thanks.
 
Fantastical 2 is out and on sale for 2.99 right now. I highly recommend this app if you hate the stock iOS7 calendar. It syncs perfectly with the stock calendar (so you can still use Siri to add appointments). Just a great app all around imo and I don't even care if Apple "fixes" the stock calendar anymore (although I would prefer they do as the less apps on my phone the better).
 
Downloaded fantastical 2 today & like it so far. It does not have full page month view or full year monthly view but it does have a few nice features. Will probably use both for now & see what Apple does with their cal app.

Wouldn't take much for me to switch back to it exclusively.
 
The calendar stinks and here's why.

When you select a day it goes to that day and all I see is a 6 hour window. Before I could press the day and it would list my scheduled appointments at the bottom. I could see I had a lunch meeting and an 8pm call so instantly I could see where I was unavailable. That same task in iOS 7 requires me to have to scroll through the entire day to verify my appointments.

Now if we are ONLY talking about tomorrow, no big deal because I can pull up the list and see it or only have to scroll through one day. However if I want to quickly cycle through Monday Tuesday Wednesday this week next week and the week after it takes much longer and it is tedious. When I'm scheduling meetings with people I am instantly slower at responding for available dates.

You might like the new calendar because the changes do not affect you but it is not better than iOS 6. I'm not saying I want it the old one back, but I'm calling a spade a spade. It is worse and they will should do something about it.

? Siri: show my week's schedule ...
 
Downloaded fantastical 2 today & like it so far. It does not have full page month view or full year monthly view but it does have a few nice features. Will probably use both for now & see what Apple does with their cal app.

Wouldn't take much for me to switch back to it exclusively.

Me either. If they just made it like the old app and showed the hybrid month/agenda view I'd be happy.
 
Fantastical 2 is out and on sale for 2.99 right now. I highly recommend this app if you hate the stock iOS7 calendar. It syncs perfectly with the stock calendar (so you can still use Siri to add appointments). Just a great app all around imo and I don't even care if Apple "fixes" the stock calendar anymore (although I would prefer they do as the less apps on my phone the better).

Yep, I agree. This is absolutely the nicest looking, functional calendar I've seen in a while. It suits my needs to a "T". I would have willingly paid more but thrilled that it was only $2.99!
 
The only change I want to see is that when clicking on a certain day, it scrolls to the time of the first event on that day, rather than the current time. This would stop me having to constantly have to scroll up to see events for that day. No idea why they thought it would be a good idea to scroll to the current time for future days.

As to the OP: You whinging to Apple 10x just to get your voice heard more is extremely selfish to people who are mostly happy with the app. It's obvious that you want to have the loudest voice and that you think that your opinion is more important than others (otherwise you wouldn't send so many separate complaints through, one would have been enough). Theres about 5 very decent alternatives to the stock calendar app, why don't you just grab one of those instead setting out of a little vendetta?
 
We did, then they removed some of them. That's pretty much the whole point of this thread...

No there is a better way to your problem and they just removed the not so elegant solution. You do not know your way around iOS, probably get a different phone.
 
No because you should actually start using the functions that come with the phone.
Sorry but Siri isn't a better way, especially when it can't really be used in quite a few situations.

Not to mention that because there is a different way to do something means another more relevant and straightforward simpler way that was always there for years should somehow be removed is fairly irrational in itself.

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No there is a better way to your problem and they just removed the not so elegant solution. You do not know your way around iOS, probably get a different phone.
Talking to your phone is not a more elegant thing. Using that to justify removing simple features that were always there and were useful and didn't get in the way is even more silly.
 
Sorry but Siri isn't a better way, especially when it can't really be used in quite a few situations.

Not to mention that because there is a different way to do something means another more relevant and straightforward simpler way that was always there for years should somehow be removed is fairly irrational in itself.

You're missing his point...it was only relevant or a better way for you and yes, a bunch of other people...but for the millions of others using the phone as well as those getting it for the first time, the new format is much better.

I don't miss the day view from the old calendar one bit...never showed enough info and I always ended up tapping into the day for the complete view.

I can now not only scroll through and see monthly dates more easily in the current month view, but I simply need to turn my phone sideways to get a quick glance at my appointments...and scroll through the upcoming weeks details if I like.

They added WAY more than they "took away"...and yes, that is in quotes as you still have simple access to all of the info. It is simply some slight format changes for the better.

Dot colors will most likely change, but I don't see them changing the month view on the phone at least as there was no room to see the info properly...even in other apps that still offer it.
 
No there is a better way to your problem and they just removed the not so elegant solution. You do not know your way around iOS, probably get a different phone.

My problem is that I can't get a proper overview of my week's upcoming events in the stock calendar app. But you're telling me that it's more elegant to exit the calendar, talk to the phone, remember the response, go back into the calendar app, move things around in darkness, then exit the app again, talk to the phone again and then see if I need to make additional changes, than to simply have everything in front of you as you're working?

Then you must think the calendar app in OS X is ridiculously crappy, and I can't even begin to imagine what you must think of a proper paper agenda, having everything visible... Uh, anything but elegant! Right?

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You're missing his point...it was only relevant or a better way for you and yes, a bunch of other people...but for the millions of others using the phone as well as those getting it for the first time, the new format is much better.
Are you saying the vast majority of iOS users, especially first time users, benefit from having a calendar where it's far more difficult to get a proper overview of coming events and having to use Siri as a workaround, than to have everything right there in the app? Based on what?

I can now not only scroll through and see monthly dates more easily in the current month view, but I simply need to turn my phone sideways to get a quick glance at my appointments...and scroll through the upcoming weeks details if I like.
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If Apple would make the landscape mode more like this (being able to see more than five hours, for instance by pinching) and the search mode (ticker) a proper view instead of some sort of workaround, I'd say they'd improved the calendar app immensely. Do you agree?
 
My problem is that I can't get a proper overview of my week's upcoming events in the stock calendar app. But you're telling me that it's more elegant to exit the calendar, talk to the phone, remember the response, go back into the calendar app, move things around in darkness, then exit the app again, talk to the phone again and then see if I need to make additional changes, than to simply have everything in front of you as you're working?

Then you must think the calendar app in OS X is ridiculously crappy, and I can't even begin to imagine what you must think of a proper paper agenda, having everything visible... Uh, anything but elegant! Right?

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Are you saying the vast majority of iOS users, especially first time users, benefit from having a calendar where it's far more difficult to get a proper overview of coming events and having to use Siri as a workaround, than to have everything right there in the app? Based on what?


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If Apple would make the landscape mode more like this (being able to see more than five hours, for instance by pinching) and the search mode (ticker) a proper view instead of some sort of workaround, I'd say they'd improved the calendar app immensely. Do you agree?

No...I don't agree.

Who are you meeting with at noon on Nov-11? Whoops...you can't tell because you can only see "Meet..."

It takes two hours to "pick up car"????

I WISH I could live in a world where I had time for 2 hour lunches with Jenn!

It's very convenient that almost all of the appointments on that example are hours long.

In the real business world, meetings rarely last more than an hour and there are a ton of them all day.

Apple has "optimized" the calendar app for circumstances such as these considering the size of the phone. On the iPad, they actually allow one to see the month in the format that everyone on here is complaining they took away...and they did that because you can actually see the info on that size device.

My only complaint with the app is as follows:

*Colored dots seem like a no brainer to add to the monthly view for those of us using multiple calendars.

That's it!
 
You're missing his point...it was only relevant or a better way for you and yes, a bunch of other people...but for the millions of others using the phone as well as those getting it for the first time, the new format is much better.

I don't miss the day view from the old calendar one bit...never showed enough info and I always ended up tapping into the day for the complete view.

I can now not only scroll through and see monthly dates more easily in the current month view, but I simply need to turn my phone sideways to get a quick glance at my appointments...and scroll through the upcoming weeks details if I like.

They added WAY more than they "took away"...and yes, that is in quotes as you still have simple access to all of the info. It is simply some slight format changes for the better.

Dot colors will most likely change, but I don't see them changing the month view on the phone at least as there was no room to see the info properly...even in other apps that still offer it.
The new way is better for millions if people, especially if compared against the old way where those extra useful features were there? It'd be interesting to see anything that supports those numbers and conclusions.
 
The new way is better for millions if people, especially if compared against the old way where those extra useful features were there? It'd be interesting to see anything that supports those numbers and conclusions.

I guess about as much support as you and others have from one or two threads on an enthusiat website claiming it is awful and unusable...except the "lack" of complaints seems to lean in my favor...:p
 
No...I don't agree.
So in short, being able to make the current ticker (search function) a standard view when opening the calendar, and being able to zoom out in the current week view would NOT be an improvement? It wouldn't change anything for you, and it would make me want to use the app. How is that not an improvement?

Who are you meeting with at noon on Nov-11? Whoops...you can't tell because you can only see "Meet..."
I use that view to get an overview of my week, for more details I do one of four things: use the ticker view, zoom in, click the event to get the popup with details, or double tap to get the day view.

It takes two hours to "pick up car"????

I WISH I could live in a world where I had time for 2 hour lunches with Jenn!

It's very convenient that almost all of the appointments on that example are hours long.
Are these serious arguments?

In the real business world, meetings rarely last more than an hour and there are a ton of them all day.

Apple has "optimized" the calendar app for circumstances such as these considering the size of the phone. On the iPad, they actually allow one to see the month in the format that everyone on here is complaining they took away...and they did that because you can actually see the info on that size device.
So what you're saying (don't forget what you said earlier...) is that the vast majority of iOS users are people in the real business world who has tons of meetings all day, and therefore removing something that the rest uses is justified? And you're not joking?

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I guess about as much support as you and others have from one or two threads on an enthusiat website claiming it is awful and unusable...except the "lack" of complaints seems to lean in my favor...:p

So you think all of the calendar apps out there only cater to a small minority of calendar users, sort of like a niche market for the few iOS users that don't have tons of short meetings all day and therefore wouldn't want anything but what Apple offers in iOS 7?
 
My problem is that I can't get a proper overview of my week's upcoming events in the stock calendar app. But you're telling me that it's more elegant to exit the calendar, talk to the phone, remember the response, go back into the calendar app, move things around in darkness, then exit the app again, talk to the phone again and then see if I need to make additional changes, than to simply have everything in front of you as you're working?

Then you must think the calendar app in OS X is ridiculously crappy, and I can't even begin to imagine what you must think of a proper paper agenda, having everything visible... Uh, anything but elegant! Right?

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Are you saying the vast majority of iOS users, especially first time users, benefit from having a calendar where it's far more difficult to get a proper overview of coming events and having to use Siri as a workaround, than to have everything right there in the app? Based on what?


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If Apple would make the landscape mode more like this (being able to see more than five hours, for instance by pinching) and the search mode (ticker) a proper view instead of some sort of workaround, I'd say they'd improved the calendar app immensely. Do you agree?

Siri works everywhere, you never have to quit the app. Welcome to the future!
 
So in short, being able to make the current ticker (search function) a standard view when opening the calendar, and being able to zoom out in the current week view would NOT be an improvement? It wouldn't change anything for you, and it would make me want to use the app. How is that not an improvement?


I use that view to get an overview of my week, for more details I do one of four things: use the ticker view, zoom in, click the event to get the popup with details, or double tap to get the day view.


Are these serious arguments?


So what you're saying (don't forget what you said earlier...) is that the vast majority of iOS users are people in the real business world who has tons of meetings all day, and therefore removing something that the rest uses is justified? And you're not joking?

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So you think all of the calendar apps out there only cater to a small minority of calendar users, sort of like a niche market for the few iOS users that don't have tons of short meetings all day and therefore wouldn't want anything but what Apple offers in iOS 7?

I'm not joking and "yes." And do you REALLY not believe that app maker specifically did not use 2 hour events at a minimum to make up for the fact that you can't tell what the events are WITHOUT them being that long?

And to your last point...if you want something different or a feature that really only important to a minority of the MILIONS of users out there, you can buy an app for $2.99 and tell the world how great it is. It doesn't change the fact that Apple made the changes it did because they felt (and it is their product) that it is better. If they feel that the "problems" you listed are real, they will change the app....but I'm betting that out side of colored dots, the current app will stay as is because it is easier to see and use this way.
 
I guess about as much support as you and others have from one or two threads on an enthusiat website claiming it is awful and unusable...except the "lack" of complaints seems to lean in my favor...:p
So basically at least some threads and articles about bad changes to the calendar and almost none about the good ones. Got it.

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Siri works everywhere, you never have to quit the app. Welcome to the future!
Don't want to talk to my phone to get something I could easily do with the way I interact with my phone normally (through touch) and perhaps even more importantly quietly. Plus tell any if this to an iPhone 4 user with iOS 7--Siri will be a lot of help there.

You can just was easily say to use another calendar app that still has those features. None of that explains why simple usable things should be removed making the app worse in some ways.
 
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