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California Nominates Steve Jobs for $1 American Innovation Coin
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What a horrendous caricature, yikes. Makes it look so dystopian and authoritarian.
Steve Wozniak is no doubt a genius, a master, a true expert, and I mean no disrespect to him at all. But the reality is, not many masters actually change or push the world forward. Think about it—how many brilliant minds and engineers have spent their lives stuck in a cubicle, buried under bosses or partners who just don’t get it?
Think about Konrad Zuse - a true master in every sense. He had the skills, the vision, and the execution, yet no one truly understood his genius. If he had the right support, with his dedication and creativity, the world today might be a very different place, wouldn’t it?
That’s why I’d probably lean towards keeping Steve Jobs on the coin.
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I’ll buy that for a dollar! (sorry I had to)
That I can agree with you on - Woz was tinkerer/computer man and Jobs was more of the business end of the company if you will. Job was a visionary and quite often skated to where the puck was going, not to where it was. Forstall I love and is one of those I do miss at Apple. He was extremely intelligent and very very close to Steve both professionally and personally. I personally love the interview Scott did when he related a story about him being seriously ill and what Jobs did for him. Forstall was very much a rough grit of sandpaper, much like Jobs, but he got the job done in the end.
That said would he have made a good CEO? I honestly don't know. From all I've read it seems that Forstall frequently butted heads with people at Apple (Ive & Bob Mansfield being two off the top of my head) and that when Jobs passed the proverbial writing was on the wall for Scott.
California could have done better tbh, Apple Inc. and Steve Jobs was all and still is all about aesthetics and functionality, this coin is anything but, try again Governor Newsom.
I have to ask but are you a Scott Forstall groupie or something, I have observed you trying to keep his memory alive of employment at Apple Inc. he was an employee come and gone and he has probably moved on, it gives off a bit of a creepy vibe when you keep mentioning Forstall here.
Woz is a brilliant man but he is not a marketer he seems to be a quiet and private person only voicing his opinion when needed. Jobs on the other hand was a go getter and marketer. One can be brilliant with an amazing invention, however without marketing it will go nowhere. On the other hand a great marketer can sell ice to an Eskimo, Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field (RFD) was not just a tongue in cheek joke.
That's a pretty fair summary of how Jobs innovated. We take it for granted today, that a baby can just pick up and use an iPad, that any kid or adult or elderly person can use it daily with zero or minimal training. But back when Jobs started Apple it was taken for granted that computers were hard to use, and required a lot of learning, and were annoying to use, and you wouldn't let your kids use it unless they were natural boffins. Windows made computers easy to use for work and manageable for browsing and gaming, but Apple was taking it further than that even with the Lisa.
Woz is brilliant. But I think without Jobs, Woz would have been happy to make a computer for computer users, not for regular people. Woz was an engineer to his core. You can tell when a computer was designed by engineers.
Too bad Elon left California, because then we could rub his nose in the fact that Steve Jobs was a far greater inventor. With more than 40X more patents with Jobs listed as an inventor, there is just no comparison. Musk has some creative people working for him, but he himself is a dud, as are his insignificant patents.
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Fair, but that doesn't mean every typeface is available. All the states still have to adhere to whatever the U.S. Mint's requirements are.
FWIW I think Connecticut's Innovator coin design (already circulating) pretty much nails it. It recognizes an important and useful engineering innovation that most people don't know about, it's clever (a play on stylized state borders), and it looks modern.
I'm going to wait for the California $1 E to come out. 😜
The Apple 2E was my first computer and I really like the idea of Steve on the coin.
The Apple 2E was my first computer and I really like the idea of Steve on the coin.
They should ask Jony Ive to design it!
Well it will certainly NEVER be Tim Cook, Lol…the man who looks after investors first 👌👍
My guess is, like stamps, you have to be dead. Woz does not qualify. I'm sure he's fine with that.
He didn’t say Jobs is no good. He said Woz made the PC which is true. Woz made the tech. Jobs was an incredibly great communicator, marketer, and he understood how humans want to interface with technology. It’s not a heavy headset on their face like Tim made. Jobs knew what people wanted before they knew.
This doesn’t diminish Jobs to state that Jobs didn’t really have the technology understanding that many engineers had. But that isn’t saying Jobs wasn’t amazing. Creative genius was jobs. However it takes a team. Apple would be far better off with the team Steve built than allowing Tim Crook to fire all his competition within the company for CEO role. Tim is great at maximizing shareholder value. That’s the ultimate thing he has done. So for the shareholders who mostly make up the top 1%, he is godsend. To the long term viability of Apple, Tim has set it back decades.
Tim truly doesn’t understand the technology, people or marketing. He understands how to move mountains to get less and less innovative products made really well. He is a supply chain guy but he doesn’t understand Apple products any better than the average person who’s a fan here. He is driven by numbers not technology. In my opinion, we need a visionary at the helm - and someone like Tim to be second in charge making the visionary’s vision complete by putting the partners in place to get the products developed and also be profitable. Steve didn’t care about the money, he cared about the customers. Tim cares only about the shareholders who ensure he gets $50m to $100m or more annually.
Collecting, investing in precious metals and so on. It would help if we'd get rid of paper money but coins are here to stay.
