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Ivy Bridge was released on April 23, 2012, not in 2011.

Nope, the present generation was released last summer.

What he probably mean is the Intel tick-tock strategy
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&...e6mYAI&usg=AFQjCNEgXGTHebWovA9dgEmFAF_Nl8wnCA

so according to this image, he's right about the architecture since Ivy bridge essentially just a die shrink with some side dishes

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Right, but Intel's new architecture does not ensure huge performance gains, but an update can. Ivy Bridge was a 20-25% gain over SB. Calling Ivy Bridge 2 year old tech is wrong and misleading.

yeah, well he should at least elaborate further about it. :D

i think the main focus for Haswell is more on the power consumption rather than performance.
 
Ivy Bridge was a 20-25% gain over SB.

That's a touch optimistic. The actual differences in CPU performance were closer to 10-15% on the whole. The real gains were in the GPU, where the HD4000 blows Sandy Bridge's HD3000 out of the water.
 
That's a touch optimistic. The actual differences in CPU performance were closer to 10-15% on the whole. The real gains were in the GPU, where the HD4000 blows Sandy Bridge's HD3000 out of the water.

I know. I factored in CPU and GPU. 15% averaged with up to 60% gains on the GPU is up to 35% all around, about 25% in real world.
 
Another reason to get the 15" pro. I often have tons of apps open at the same time and I've always found that quad core computers handle it better and allow things to run more smoothly. I'm sure someone might point out a reason why that is technically incorrect though.

You are really showing your lack of knowledge here. Also, it sounds like you are trying to justify your purchase. You can say you don't need Haswell and all that, but for the type of user you are it would benefit you greatly.

Up to you, of course.
 
I highly doubt the OP purchased it for $3k. He prob picked it up on craigslist for an awesome price.
 
As long as it makes you happy is all that matters. Regardless, its an beautiful useful laptop. :apple:
 
Ivy Bridge was released on April 23, 2012, not in 2011.

I think what he's trying to say is that the chip architect is 2 years old. Sandy Bridge was released in 2011 and Ivy Bridge is the same as Sandy Bridge just an updated version. But Haswell is a completely new architect and then the one after will use the same one as Haswell but updated and then they'll switch to a new architect and then so on... So you're both right in a sense...
 
2.7 GHz processor
16GB RAM
512GB hard drive

Don't want to wait for Haswell, the 50% battery life improvement is overrated since CPU these days is only a fraction of the total power draw (others are display, hard drive, graphics, wireless, etc).

I suppose it's also possible that Apple won't even update the 15" rMBP for some time. Intel's new chips seem to always have supply problems, so people waiting might have to wait longer than expected.

Yes, you're crazy!

Just kidding! :D Enjoy your Retina Macbook Pro! I've been enjoying mine since I got it September 2012. Best computer I've ever used.
 
2.7 GHz processor
16GB RAM
512GB hard drive

Don't want to wait for Haswell, the 50% battery life improvement is overrated since CPU these days is only a fraction of the total power draw (others are display, hard drive, graphics, wireless, etc).

I suppose it's also possible that Apple won't even update the 15" rMBP for some time. Intel's new chips seem to always have supply problems, so people waiting might have to wait longer than expected.

Good on you! As long as you're happy with the system and it does everything you want then go for it!
Personally I'm just waiting a tad longer to see what the updates bring, and I'll be jumping on the same ship as you! Considering the lack of upgradeability with these systems I'm also going to go for 16GB RAM and the 512GB SSD as a minimum, but I want to max out the CPU as much as I possibly can!
 
I bought my second rMBP about 2 months after my first started dying (having given problems since I bought it in June last year). The repair would have taken weeks and I use it every day in connection with my profession. I did not and could not wait (even though my first rMBP has now supposedly been repaired).

The new unit is a completely different kettle of fish. No overheating and no screen problems. I re-installed bootcamp for the first time last night and gaming on it was a revelation.

Thunderbolt 2 controllers are - according to a new article on this site - only going to start being released next year. It seems that Thunderbolt 2 will be a pre-requisite for 4K displays, which, as someone else has predicted, have probably been put on hold by Apple until thunderbolt 2 can be integrated into new units. This seems to me to indicate that whatever refreshed "Haswell" - based MBPs will be announced on Monday, they will not incorporate Thunderbolt 2. I would not like to go out and buy a new MBP only to have it incapable of properly supporting future 4K Thunderbolt Displays sometime next year. In other words, the "refresh" early next year will be worth waiting for.

From my own experience, the current (early 2013) rMBPs may have matured to the point where their initial teething troubles (which I experienced first hand) have been ironed out. The "revised" or "new" Haswell based units which are supposedly going to be announced in the near future may also have teething troubles. As far as I can see, the more drastic the revision to the hardware, the greater the risk of problems initially.

In the meantime, I agree that the processor and graphics bumps represented by Haswell will not be revolutionary. And my current rMBP has more than enough battery life for the amount of time it spends unplugged from my TBDs.

I thought I would weigh in with my own point of view as some of the comments on this thread were disturbingly unsupportive.
 
I bought my second rMBP about 2 months after my first started dying (having given problems since I bought it in June last year). The repair would have taken weeks and I use it every day in connection with my profession. I did not and could not wait (even though my first rMBP has now supposedly been repaired).

The new unit is a completely different kettle of fish. No overheating and no screen problems. I re-installed bootcamp for the first time last night and gaming on it was a revelation.

Thunderbolt 2 controllers are - according to a new article on this site - only going to start being released next year. It seems that Thunderbolt 2 will be a pre-requisite for 4K displays, which, as someone else has predicted, have probably been put on hold by Apple until thunderbolt 2 can be integrated into new units. This seems to me to indicate that whatever refreshed "Haswell" - based MBPs will be announced on Monday, they will not incorporate Thunderbolt 2. I would not like to go out and buy a new MBP only to have it incapable of properly supporting future 4K Thunderbolt Displays sometime next year. In other words, the "refresh" early next year will be worth waiting for.

From my own experience, the current (early 2013) rMBPs may have matured to the point where their initial teething troubles (which I experienced first hand) have been ironed out. The "revised" or "new" Haswell based units which are supposedly going to be announced in the near future may also have teething troubles. As far as I can see, the more drastic the revision to the hardware, the greater the risk of problems initially.

In the meantime, I agree that the processor and graphics bumps represented by Haswell will not be revolutionary. And my current rMBP has more than enough battery life for the amount of time it spends unplugged from my TBDs.

I thought I would weigh in with my own point of view as some of the comments on this thread were disturbingly unsupportive.

I totally agree ;) Better a v1.2 with ironed bugs than an uncertain v2.0 if you need to work with the machine.
 
I bought my second rMBP about 2 months after my first started dying (having given problems since I bought it in June last year). The repair would have taken weeks and I use it every day in connection with my profession. I did not and could not wait (even though my first rMBP has now supposedly been repaired).

The new unit is a completely different kettle of fish. No overheating and no screen problems. I re-installed bootcamp for the first time last night and gaming on it was a revelation.

Thunderbolt 2 controllers are - according to a new article on this site - only going to start being released next year. It seems that Thunderbolt 2 will be a pre-requisite for 4K displays, which, as someone else has predicted, have probably been put on hold by Apple until thunderbolt 2 can be integrated into new units. This seems to me to indicate that whatever refreshed "Haswell" - based MBPs will be announced on Monday, they will not incorporate Thunderbolt 2. I would not like to go out and buy a new MBP only to have it incapable of properly supporting future 4K Thunderbolt Displays sometime next year. In other words, the "refresh" early next year will be worth waiting for.

From my own experience, the current (early 2013) rMBPs may have matured to the point where their initial teething troubles (which I experienced first hand) have been ironed out. The "revised" or "new" Haswell based units which are supposedly going to be announced in the near future may also have teething troubles. As far as I can see, the more drastic the revision to the hardware, the greater the risk of problems initially.

In the meantime, I agree that the processor and graphics bumps represented by Haswell will not be revolutionary. And my current rMBP has more than enough battery life for the amount of time it spends unplugged from my TBDs.

I thought I would weigh in with my own point of view as some of the comments on this thread were disturbingly unsupportive.

Yeah, this whole 4K/UHD video support is starting to disturb me as well. But technology is ever-evolving, there's no guarantee that what you buy at any point in time is completely future-proof. There will always be something bigger and better.

4K is definitely the future standard though, so it's troubling to say the least that we're on the fringe of that format and nothing at the present is guaranteed to support it.
 
Let's be honest, spending 3k on this first revision turkey when Haswell has just launched is downright stupid and completely unjustifiable.

Especially with all the bugs the initial Haswell release will include... for free... :) It'll be at least 6 months for the refresh that fixes the bugs.. and then Footwell will be around the corner.
 
2.7 GHz processor
16GB RAM
512GB hard drive

Don't want to wait for Haswell, the 50% battery life improvement is overrated since CPU these days is only a fraction of the total power draw (others are display, hard drive, graphics, wireless, etc).

I suppose it's also possible that Apple won't even update the 15" rMBP for some time. Intel's new chips seem to always have supply problems, so people waiting might have to wait longer than expected.

Honestly, if you have to tell the internet about it, chances are in the back of your mind you are regretting your decision already.
 
What he probably mean is the Intel tick-tock strategy

so according to this image, he's right about the architecture since Ivy bridge essentially just a die shrink with some side dishes

Doesn't really matter, either way what he said was moronic. You can call them side dishes if you want, but not only is the CPU faster and on a die shrink but there were substantial improvements to the GPU, Intel Quicksync, the introduction of power nap capabilities, USB 3 and TB support, etc. The upgrade was significant.
 
Especially with all the bugs the initial Haswell release will include... for free... :) It'll be at least 6 months for the refresh that fixes the bugs.. and then Footwell will be around the corner.

either the bugs came from Intel or Apple ... pick your choice ;)

if you go for the early 2013, there are chances that you'll stuck with the old LG panel.
i'd rather not risk that and go for the upcoming mbps where they would almost certainly using newer panels.
 
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2.7 GHz processor
16GB RAM
512GB hard drive

Don't want to wait for Haswell, the 50% battery life improvement is overrated since CPU these days is only a fraction of the total power draw (others are display, hard drive, graphics, wireless, etc).

I suppose it's also possible that Apple won't even update the 15" rMBP for some time. Intel's new chips seem to always have supply problems, so people waiting might have to wait longer than expected.

I did the same. Needed a portable powerful laptop by next week, up and running and tested before I travel. Nearly bought a maxed out Metabox clevo custom built notebook but I got the rMBP 20% off and couldn't wait for haswell on Metabox and mac.

Looks like the main difference will be graphics (pointless if you have discreet anyway) and battery improvements. And wrought processing power improvements will be subtle clock for clock.

I need to run 8 threads at 100% often so ram and CPU grunt is all I need. This is my first Mac!

I paid $2590 with free delivery and should get it Monday!!
 
I don't see why op is even posting about this.

To prove himself full of remorse? Whatever makes you happy.. keep it to yourself.
 
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