Can I swap iPhones and not tell verizon

[Mlrollin91]

Understood, but you can't discredit my and other posters experiences either.
All you have to do is tell them it's a gift and to "activate later" and they will sell you a phone.
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Yep, your posted thread and the thread I posted both confirm it is possible.

That’s literally exactly what I did last month. They asked for my mothers phone number because it was for her, and proceeded to tell me if I don’t activate the SIM card within 60 days it will automatically activate.
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Not true. That hasn't been true since a couple of weeks now.
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NOt true at all. I have bought 2 iPhone X on Verizon without ever giving a phone number. You are misinformed. They give you an option to put carrier info later and you can buy those and never enter the phone number but all that is moot now that simfree is available.

Can people PLEASE read the thread before posting. It’s been WELL established certain stores and states have DIFFERENT policies.

 

[Martyimac]

That’s literally exactly what I did last month. They asked for my mothers phone number because it was for her, and proceeded to tell me if I don’t activate the SIM card within 60 days it will automatically activate.
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Can people PLEASE read the thread before posting. It’s been WELL established certain stores and states have DIFFERENT policies.

I don't think it has been WELL established. It has happened to you and maybe some others, but as some of the recent posts suggest, different results for different people at different times at different stores in different states. That is where the debate stands as of now.

 

[Mlrollin91]

I don't think it has been WELL established. It has happened to you and maybe some others, but as some of the recent posts suggest, different results for different people at different times at different stores in different states. That is where the debate stands as of now.

Isn't that the definition of well established in this particular case? Multiple people with multiple experiences, thus, it is well established that there is no one set policy or norm.

 

[Blondie&Dagwood]

And in all fairness just because a rep says something over the phone does not mean for certain it will be the same in store.
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But if that same rep says that a SIM will be auto-activated after 60 days, then that becomes a fact and a certainty?

 

[Martyimac]

Isn't that the definition of well established in this particular case? Multiple people with multiple experiences, thus, it is well established that there is no one set policy or norm.

Sigh.

 

[Billburns]

Where in the world are we talking about paying with cash. I’m not wrong. Sorry. Nice try.

My ignore list is filling up today. Before today I have never ignored someone. Over 9 years.

Macrumors has become reddit. It’s become nothing but name calling and argumentative nonsense. This is a community meant to help people. Stick to the opening post and don’t deviate. It’s not hard.

You are wrong, if you’re buying a device and paying it off in full... you can use for whatever carrier you want

There is no policy where Apple can’t sell you a phone..

So because I’m at the store and the T-Mobile is out of stock the Apple store will deny me a sale? Absolutely no considering I’ve paid for my phones in full and have never been requested any carrier login/account BS

and as of November 24th 2017 my friend and I both bought a Verizon and sprint model to use on T-Mobile... we paid the phones off right there and there
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While that may be so. You still can not discredit my experience. And in all fairness just because a rep says something over the phone does not mean for certain it will be the same in store.

All I can do is report MY experience from the above listed Apple Stores. San Luis is also a good 2.5-3 hours from me.

All I can do is report what I know. And what I know is what I’ve said throughout this thread.

And you’re still wrong and bitter that someone proved you wrong and you somehow chose to block me for the first time in 9 years when all I did was say you and the other member were incorrect.

All I’m saying is cash is king, sorry installment people!

 

[Mlrollin91]

You are wrong, if you’re buying a device and paying it off in full... you can use for whatever carrier you want

There is no policy where Apple can’t sell you a phone..

So because I’m at the store and the T-Mobile is out of stock the Apple store will deny me a sale? Absolutely no considering I’ve paid for my phones in full and have never been requested any carrier login/account BS

and as of November 24th 2017 my friend and I both bought a Verizon and sprint model to use on T-Mobile... we paid the phones off right there and there

Do you just choose not to read threads before you post? Like at all? There is enough evidence in this thread that it goes both ways and therefore I am not wrong. People need to mind their own business and stop telling others their factual experience is wrong. Did you purchase my phone? Are you me? Are you living in my shoes? I didn't think so, so don't assume I'm wrong.

This thread has NOTHING to do with installment plans. Good grief.

 

[Billburns]

Do you just choose not to read threads before you post? Like at all? There is enough evidence in this thread that it goes both ways and therefore I am not wrong. People need to mind their own business and stop telling others their factual experience is wrong. Did you purchase my phone? Are you me? Are you living in my shoes? I didn't think so, so don't assume I'm wrong.

Then why come in here and say it can’t happen when I’ve done it at multiple stores... for years?

I’ve never been asked my account information or any of that.

Unless an employee wants to be a dick it really isn’t enforced

 

[Mlrollin91]

Then why come in here and say it can’t happen when I’ve done it at multiple stores... for years?

I’ve never been asked my account information or any of that.

Unless an employee wants to be a dick it really isn’t enforced

Well look at that, you added a caveat, unless an employee wants to be a dick. Well what is stopping all the stores in the LA region from doing that same exact thing? Nothing. Maybe the region has special rules. Maybe its a security reason. You wouldn't know because you don't live here or work for Apple in this region.

Retail stores other than Apple do have different rules per region, so there is nothing out of the ordinary if Apple chooses to adopt certain "rules" for certain stores.

Just because YOU have never been asked for that information does not mean OTHERS have not. That is the biggest logical fallacy of them all. I personally have been asked for that information over the years. Therefore my experience is not the same as yours and therefore you cannot say mine is wrong. Thats just flat out disrespectful. You cannot discredit something you have not experienced.

 

[Martyimac]

Then why come in here and say it can’t happen when I’ve done it at multiple stores... for years?

I’ve never been asked my account information or any of that.

Unless an employee wants to be a dick it really isn’t enforced

He is now arguing for our side of the debate, let him spout.

 

[C DM]

Is there any actual new or useful information being brought up in last few pages of the thread that hasn't already been covered in the first couple? Or is this basically just about going in circles of attempted bandwagon mob bashing just for the sake of it?

 

[Martyimac]

Is there any actual new or useful information being brought up in last few pages of the thread that hasn't already been covered in the first couple? Or is this basically just about going in circles of bandwagon mob bashing just for the sake of it?

It's now going in circles.

 

[Billburns]

Well look at that, you added a caveat, unless an employee wants to be a dick. Well what is stopping all the stores in the LA region from doing that same exact thing? Nothing. Maybe the region has special rules. Maybe its a security reason. You wouldn't know because you don't live here or work for Apple in this region.

Retail stores other than Apple do have different rules per region, so there is nothing out of the ordinary if Apple chooses to adopt certain "rules" for certain stores.

Just because YOU have never been asked for that information does not mean OTHERS have not. That is the biggest logical fallacy of them all. I personally have been asked for that information over the years. Therefore my experience is not the same as yours and therefore you cannot say mine is wrong. Thats just flat out disrespectful. You cannot discredit something you have not experienced.

I can promise you that Apple would not deny me a sale if I’m buying a device in full... that unlocks the phone.

Hence how I got mine, if there was a rule in place wouldn’t they have denied me a sale? She even asked, are you doing an installment or Apple upgrade? If so you can’t buy it unless you’re paying in full which I responded with yes I am she said ok we have a sprint model left

 

[Mlrollin91]

Is there any actual new or useful information being brought up in last few pages of the thread that hasn't already been covered in the first couple? Or is this basically just about going in circles of attempted bandwagon mob bashing just for the sake of it?

Its begun to circle, so I'm just ignoring it now. I don't feel like repeating myself again. I only came back because you posted.

 

[Martyimac]

Isn't that the definition of well established in this particular case? Multiple people with multiple experiences, thus, it is well established that there is no one set policy or norm.

Never mind. Mis-clicked.

 

[Shadowbech]

This is something new. Apparently it started with the iPhone 7 last year according to Shadow.



So it sounds like this year changed from 30 days to 60, because I was told 60.


It never used to be like this. Throughout the years I would purchase a phone for my mother for Xmas, and just activate it once it was opened. This new auto-activation is definitely new. But it could also be carrier related as well. Its too hard to pinpoint, but its definitely a thing now.

Yea they probably changed from 30 to 60 because last year I was told 30 and their device showed me that I had 30 days to activate and if I didn't, it would self-activate.

 

[Mlrollin91]

Yea they probably changed from 30 to 60 because last year I was told 30 and their device showed me that I had 30 days to activate and if I didn't, it would self-activate.

They probably changed it to 60 days for the holidays. Those that are purchasing iPhones in November probably want to gift them for the holidays and if it auto-activates before Xmas, you've got a huge problem.

 

[Shadowbech]

They probably changed it to 60 days for the holidays. Those that are purchasing iPhones in November probably want to gift them for the holidays and if it auto-activates before Xmas, you've got a huge problem.

Totally agreed. Plus the extended holiday return policy as well. Make sense to me.

 

[Blondie&Dagwood]

They probably changed it to 60 days for the holidays. Those that are purchasing iPhones in November probably want to gift them for the holidays and if it auto-activates before Xmas, you've got a huge problem.

The real irony is that this guy actually believes that the SIM card is going to auto-activate. Lol, I think we have a better chance of seeing DeShawn Kizer lead the Cleveland Browns to the SuperBowl in Feb - hahaha
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This thread needs to die. Seriously.

Maybe you can ask Apple to auto-kill it after 60 minutes

 

[HeadphoneAddict]

Apple will not sell you the phone without making sure you have a legit Verizon account. You must give Apple your phone number and passcode to the account (if any). Doesn't matter if you pay in full or not. I bought two iPhone Xs in full, but it required all my AT&T account information and the phone number for each line. Until SIM free is available, it goes through carrier.

Yes you can activate later, but Apple will not sell it to you unless its tied to a phone number. And you must activate it with the number you purchased it before you swap out SIM cards. Its a new "security" measure Apple has added to prevent scalping. I had to activate my X with my phone number before giving it to a family member. Just inserting the family member's SIM card was not enough to "activate" the device. It must be activated with the SIM card it came with and the number it was purchased with.

Dude, I walked into the Apple store on launch day 11/3/17 and bought a Verizon 256GB iPhone X without tying it to any phone line, and popped my AT&T SIM into it and it activated just fine. As of 1-2 days ago they started to sell them online without a carrier as well.

 

[C DM]

Dude, I walked into the Apple store on launch day 11/3/17 and bought a Verizon 256GB iPhone X without tying it to any phone line, and popped my AT&T SIM into it and it activated just fine. As of 1-2 days ago they started to sell them online without a carrier as well.

It appears that that poster and at least one or two others have had a different experience, as has been discussed in the thread.

 

[Acronyc]

Apple is now selling the SIM-free version of the X. Just get that and use it with any carrier and avoid any chance of needing to provide your carrier info at the time of purchase.

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
I think at this point the thread is off the bunny trail - closing it down