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Can iTunes suck anymore than it already does?

PinkyMacGodess said:
You *can* rip Blu-ray discs, and get very good resolutions but the cost is the size of the resulting ripped movies. They are HUGE because of the amount of data...
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If you pull only the AC3 or DTS cores, and exclude all the other audio tracks, you can get a high quality video with very good sound for the majority of home theaters. But of course, the original video encode is the limiting factor. If it was done poorly then you're right, you'll get a poor rip.
 
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Cave Man said:
If you pull only the AC3 or DTS cores, and exclude all the other audio tracks, you can get a high quality video with very good sound for the majority of home theaters. But of course, the original video encode is the limiting factor. If it was done poorly then you're right, you'll get a poor rip.
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Not to mention the time too...

I've only ripped two Blu-ray discs, and the size, the time, the process, made it rather a low juice to squeeze ratio. At least for me.

HOWEVER: And I hope some studio headcheese see this: I DO prefer buying a movie that includes the iTunes movie downloads. I have ripped many DVD's just as a middle finger to the butt heads that, for example, have included the iTunes downloads with only two (I think) of the Harry Potter movies. That was a butt head move on their part. Essentially saying 'HEY! YOU! STUPID! Buy this movie TWICE because we need your money more than you do!'
 
Crap!

Now I'm finding artist content scattered all over the database. Really. I've got Jimmy Buffett albums listed under 'Jimmy Buffet' twice, sorted in the 'J's, and now three albums under 'Jimmy Buffett' listed in the 'B's...

I tried the tips from the Apple Support site, and they aren't working. There must be some insidious metadata lurking in the database that I can't see...

The answer to 'Can iTunes suck any more than it does' is: HELL YES.

This system hasn't been rebuilt in a few years, but this is getting ridiculous to have to rebuild databases every few years.

I'm getting damn tired of it...
 
throwing my 2 cents in: i. Hate. iTunes. Because:

1) can't get iTunes to sync my 85GB music library to phone. it will get stuck on "determining tracks to sync" for along time, overnight is the longest I've left it, to no avail.

This should be its most basic function and the fact that it doesn't work (not just me but a lot of people as evidenced by various support posts) is inexcusable

2) had been subscribing to iTunes Match since it came out, worked well;somewhere between upgrading to 12 and trying Apple Music, my star ratings, which i used to create playlists got corrupted so that random albums were rated and most of my songs weren't. Luckily i was able to pull my old playlist off a work computer that wasn't connected to the cloud and manually import - which promptly go corrupted again. The only way to solve was to cancel music and match and keep my library purely local

I am a huge apple fan and have put my whole family on the ecosystem. Its still a great company but yes it is going downhill. Have you noticed Apple doesn't use the "it works" tagline anymore? I did too.
 
jqc said:
throwing my 2 cents in: i. Hate. iTunes. Because:

1) can't get iTunes to sync my 85GB music library to phone. it will get stuck on "determining tracks to sync" for along time, overnight is the longest I've left it, to no avail.

This should be its most basic function and the fact that it doesn't work (not just me but a lot of people as evidenced by various support posts) is inexcusable

2) had been subscribing to iTunes Match since it came out, worked well;somewhere between upgrading to 12 and trying Apple Music, my star ratings, which i used to create playlists got corrupted so that random albums were rated and most of my songs weren't. Luckily i was able to pull my old playlist off a work computer that wasn't connected to the cloud and manually import - which promptly go corrupted again. The only way to solve was to cancel music and match and keep my library purely local

I am a huge apple fan and have put my whole family on the ecosystem. Its still a great company but yes it is going downhill. Have you noticed Apple doesn't use the "it works" tagline anymore? I did too.
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Yeah, you don't see any PC vs Mac commercials much...now you know why. It's been downhill for a few years.

I've always hated iTunes. Never figured why I needed to actually connect my iPhone to my computer so I stopped doing it, and have used Google Play Music for the past couple of years. I preferred the (now defunct) Zune software for managing my music, but now Google Play Music automatically keeps all my music in the cloud and with the app on my iPhone, I have everything I need (online AND offline).

Plex makes an excellent media player for ripped movies. Works very well and LOOKS very slick.

I think Apple is starting to figure that if they can't squeeze money out of you in an app, they stop making it better (or, in the case of iTunes, they start making it worse).
 
AFEPPL said:
Does "Identify" allow you to tag/edit/set an age restriction for movies?
(apple does it for purchased content - but I'm wanting to do it for RIP'd movies).
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YES +1 for Identify it's Great! Just find the IMDB Number and Pop it in and your M4V gets filled with Metadate
 
Cave Man said:
Jesus, I'm at my wit's end. I've been an Apple user since the early 1990s and I have to say the company is going downhill. I don't know if they've just lost their mojo, are too extended with all the crap they're getting into, if they're paying too much attention to iDevices, or just don't care about anything but the Almighty Dollar.

But iTunes is an unmitigated disaster. I just ripped a DVD that my kid got for his birthday using Handbrake's Apple TV preset and iTunes is either rejecting it, or putting it someplace ambiguous. I searched for it in the iTunes search box but nothing there. I am about ready to chuck the Apple TV and iTunes altogether. I am not used to feeling like this about Apple.

/end rant
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[doublepost=1453446936][/doublepost]Mr. Cave- Ive been a professional radio and recording person since the 70's and iTunes has never been worse. Its uncanny how it does almost the exact opposite of everything I ask it to do. I absolutely hate it and it gets worse with every update. At this point I'd go back to Real Player and Windows 3.1
 
deanopp said:
[doublepost=1453446936][/doublepost]Mr. Cave- Ive been a professional radio and recording person since the 70's and iTunes has never been worse. Its uncanny how it does almost the exact opposite of everything I ask it to do. I absolutely hate it and it gets worse with every update. At this point I'd go back to Real Player and Windows 3.1
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I actually look back fondly to the DOS 3.x days... True, we had to contend with Gopher, but life was so much simpler back then... Oh, and stuff worked...
 
Alrescha said:
You don't remember IRQ conflicts? Configuring your not-quite-soundblaster-compatible soundcard? Audio in DOS was not all sweetness and light. :)

A.
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I never had that many issues with IRQ's and such. I did have issues writing packet drivers for NICs...

But that was 'The Good Old Days'... They always seem better after a few decades...
 
iTUNES SUCKS...

1) preselects just "FOR YOU" > suck. An algorithm can never have taste.

2) A "connect" window with a preselect force fed PITBULL ****. > sucks

3) Bono(r) Vox, a huge shareholder/spokesman...
pffft, Dimwit Guiness-head Viagra baggy eye'd dick bumper In The Name Of BLAAAAHd.

SUCKS. It ALL SUCKS....
 
Then there's this: "It could just be that this specific Apple ID was never changed or edited before. Or if it was, the computer/library may have been authorized for it and still is. It also depends on if this Apple ID was used on this computer itself, or if it was downloaded on another computer or device and re-downloaded in the purchased section of iTunes on the Mac."

iTunes is far too complicated, and far to mysterious. That was a response from an Apple engineer to a problem we've been having with iTunes, iCloud, and iOS/OS X driving our mother-in-law insane.

All of her devices will occasionally, and seemingly out of the blue, demand to 'verify' her, and then pop up the old Apple ID and demand that she use that ID. An email address that she doesn't have access to because it's DEAD, and apparently her old Apple ID isn't. Even after it was changed!

If iTunes is holding on to earlier downloaded items, and that is what is causing this verification jag, then, and this could be earth shaking for Apple: MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO TELL WHAT ACCOUNT 'BOUGHT' IT, AND MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO CHANGE THE ACCOUNT!

As life moves on, people sometimes want to change their IDs, and making that impossible is ridiculous. Having an overly complicated and Rube Goldberg software apparatus like the behemoth that iTunes is, and iCloud seems to be built on, is troubling for the future of the Apple Ecosystem.

I myself really want to change my Apple ID, and I really am fearful of even trying to do it because it's going to start an absolute poop-storm, and it shouldn't be like that!!!
 
I haven't opened iTunes on my PC in what seems like months. Or longer. I access iTunes Store on my phone or ATV, subscribe to Apple Music for my music needs (no need to purchase music at this point in my life), and pay a small fee to store our photos in iCloud. I love iTunes Extras and the look and feel of my purchased movies in ATV, but Vudu has it beat for 3 reasons:
disc to digital
virtually all major releases have UV codes now; iTunes is half at best
can potentially have an entire digital collection in one place
 
twobelowpar said:
I love iTunes Extras and the look and feel of my purchased movies in ATV, but Vudu has it beat for 3 reasons:
disc to digital
virtually all major releases have UV codes now; iTunes is half at best
can potentially have an entire digital collection in one place
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I'm of the opposite opinion. While I don't like the changes Apple has made to the iTunes UI in the last few versions, it still makes managing my movie and TV show library much much easier that it is, say, on Vudu. And it allows me to download my content and do with it as I please, including using iTunes (running in a VM on my NAS) as a local streaming server for various devices throughout my household. There is nothing comparable for any of the UV providers.
 
Rigby said:
I'm of the opposite opinion. While I don't like the changes Apple has made to the iTunes UI in the last few versions, it still makes managing my movie and TV show library much much easier that it is, say, on Vudu. And it allows me to download my content and do with it as I please, including using iTunes (running in a VM on my NAS) as a local streaming server for various devices throughout my household. There is nothing comparable for any of the UV providers.
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Ah, don't get me wrong. I am definitely iTunes first, Vudu second (if it's a UV only code). My iTunes library is much larger. But I don't have much interest in downloading files to my own servers so I can see why so many people are going all-in on UV/Vudu now.
 
"Can iTunes suck anymore than it already does?"

Yes, wait for the next release.
 
Man, I got like, 37 copies of every song (ok, slight exaggeration). I hit 'DELETE', even with devices plugged in and...nothing. It literally will NOT delete. My music is like Consuela on Family Guy.

Me: [highlighting duplicate song, and hitting delete]
Song: No, no...I stay.

I've got clutter galore. CLUT-TER...GA-LO!

Very frustrating.
 
BlackSuave said:
Man, I got like, 37 copies of every song (ok, slight exaggeration). I hit 'DELETE', even with devices plugged in and...nothing. It literally will NOT delete. My music is like Consuela on Family Guy.

Me: [highlighting duplicate song, and hitting delete]
Song: No, no...I stay.

I've got clutter galore. CLUT-TER...GA-LO!

Very frustrating.
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I had duplicates of a couple of albums, and was able to delete one of them all of the sudden, after trying for nearly a year. It must have been an update, but there are still some issues, like I have two iTunes 'booklets' from an album I downloaded, and it's still there. Can't get rid of it.

I've got apps, and a few ebooks I've tried to get rid of, and they still pop up. Frustrating isn't the word. I'd go for 'user abusive'
 
The issue I still cannot seem to resolve is those ghost songs that appear greyed out. No matter how many times I delete them, they still show up. I've even installed third party tools to remove them, reset the phone back to stock, etc.
 
Cave Man said:
Jesus, I'm at my wit's end. I've been an Apple user since the early 1990s and I have to say the company is going downhill. I don't know if they've just lost their mojo, are too extended with all the crap they're getting into, if they're paying too much attention to iDevices, or just don't care about anything but the Almighty Dollar.

But iTunes is an unmitigated disaster. I just ripped a DVD that my kid got for his birthday using Handbrake's Apple TV preset and iTunes is either rejecting it, or putting it someplace ambiguous. I searched for it in the iTunes search box but nothing there. I am about ready to chuck the Apple TV and iTunes altogether. I am not used to feeling like this about Apple.

/end rant
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oh,, i'm sure it can suck more... if anyone can do it, Apple will find a way :) At the moment i'm running head to head which one will be first,, Itunes or Apple music.
 
Since they're obviously not interested in the home video market why don't they re brand iMovie as the ITunes movie store as a separate app ?

That would help de clutter the iTunes app for starters.

At the moment using it gives me a headache , it's got everything including the kitchen sink thrown in
 
ixxx69 said:
I feel the same way. It's been going downhill for a while now... I think it started around 10 or 11. 12 is a whole new level of unusable, which really sucks for me because I'm fully invested in the Apple ecosystem.

There have always been haters, but I've been using it for 10 years and actually thought iTunes was great in the early days, and "good enough" up until a couple years ago. The new UI is just horrendous... I literally have to google how to do simple things like playlists... and then I forget and have to google it again. It's completely unintuitive, they've hidden some of the most basic elements of the UI.... arrghh... now you've got me started... :mad:

I'm open to hearing the alternatives. I already switched to Downcast for podcasts, and while not perfect, it's mostly been a relief. I've looked at some of the music alternatives, but having a difficult time finding seamless integration with both my Macs and iPhone/iPad. And I use an ATV3 for all my tv watching.

/rant
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It seems pretty simple to make a play list. Even my complete untechnical wife can figure out playlists.
 
Tech198 said:
oh,, i'm sure it can suck more... if anyone can do it, Apple will find a way :) At the moment i'm running head to head which one will be first,, Itunes or Apple music.
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Please, DO NOT EGG THEM ON! If you taunt them with slams about how it could suck more, they will find a way to make iTunes suck your ass through the drains in the nearest bathroom!

Don't EVER egg them on...

After all, look what happened with Microsoft and Windows 8! :);):D:eek:o_O

Windows 8. I remember people asking if Microsoft could do worse than Millennium Edition. They did!
 
They introduced this one bug in the latest version where in album view A LOT of the time when I'm editing info and then exit back, it scrolls all the way back to the top. :mad::mad::mad:

I would use list view if it was, you know, actually readable like it used to be:

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