Yes, 1/3 is a lot off the girth!
I am looking forward to it as I get older, my arthritic fingers and hands have a hard time with the Pro.
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I am looking forward to it as I get older, my arthritic fingers and hands have a hard time with the Pro.
I got blue (reminds me of Air).
Same sickness with my 16 Pro plus my work 14PM are way too heavy for both on my belt - so heavy, it's dragging my pants down in front of clients! 🤯
Indeed, the regular 17 has macro and Air does not. This is what I was saying in my post.
Yes, because iPads mini sell way better than iPhone mini did. It is not about the name, purely profits.
I do tempted to buy too. I just like you too. I not a Camera/Video person. Don't really particular the finest quality. I hardly take any photo or video. Likewise come watching video. I hardly see only once a while. I only on social media like FB, reddit, X and IG beside surfing net. That all. Just that I wonder next year there will Air series. As mention this year they replace the Plus version with this Air as all along there will be iPhone Plus version. Not sure should i hold back first see next year at least. Currently I using base iPhone 15. I do have a Magsafe but is from Belkin as my iPhone 15 battery health is degrade. I not intend to go Apple store change a new battery so get myself a Belkin Magsafe.
Not only that, mini fans tend to forget that minis were using the same costly components as their bigger siblings (iPhone 12 and 13). So Apple performed a sort of engineering miracle fitting these expensive components into a smaller shell and… the first thing people do start complaining about battery life and difficulty reading the contents due to the “odd scaling”. Couple it with weak sales and Apple engineers must be going, like, “Forget ‘bout it!”. 😋
Oh sorry - I must have misread.
But also, that’s the ONE feature on my camera I use pretty often, so that and the single speaker have me torn about the Air. I don’t really care much about regular photos because I don’t take advantage of half the features on my phone’s camera now, but lack of macro would likely be noticeable for me. I take a lot of recipe photos, and the macro is super handy for that and other small detailed items.
I said this recently in another thread, I suspect Apple was seeing that "slightly cheaper modern iPhone with smaller screen" was losing out to "Android phone with larger screen at the same price" and probably pretty significantly in carrier stores (which is where most sales happen, at least in the US). If you're a price conscious-person looking at an iPhone with a small screen vs. an Android with a significantly larger screen (and probably a manufacturer incentive for the salesperson and/or promo for the consumer) at the same price, most customers end up picking the Android.
Estimates were that the 12/13 minis were like 3-5% of iPhone sales at launch when they were on (relative) feature parity. Which might be ok if you think it'll do better in non-launch quarters by price-conscious customers; but if those price-conscious customers are then going for larger-screened Android devices at the same price, well then unfortunately the market is speaking. Which sucks for people who prefer that form-factor, which is obviously a non-zero number of people, but it means it's not worth it to produce a smaller phone. There's a reason no one makes the smaller phones anymore; even on Android where manufacturers throw a ton of stuff at the wall to see what sticks.
Totally. Air literally has a worse camera setup and a worse battery life than iPhone 17, while costing $200 more. Not a good value, IMO. I will still try it out at Apple Store, but not likely to fall for it, as I will be upgrading from iPhone 15 and will still get my extra .2” of screen estate. 😉
i guess apple want users who want big screen are left with only 1 option , i.e pro max looking at air's battery and camera limitations ( Excluding the very minimal set of peoeple who dont bother about camera or the battery )
on serious note, the air could be a hint on how the iphone fold screen looks like (thickness wise)
on serious note, the air could be a hint on how the iphone fold screen looks like (thickness wise)
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It also has a (slightly) larger screen, Ceramic Shield on the back, A19 Pro vs A19 in the 17 and it still has titanium as opposed to aluminum, whilst being 2mm thinner, and lighter than the 17 despite having that larger screen.
Everyone’s definition of value differs, for me those things listed above are more important than battery and cameras, and I don’t mind paying the extra $$.
It is only "Not a good value" for people who do not place any value on the form factor. If it were a simple spec comparison and everything else was the same everyone would agree that it is not a good value. It is up to each person to decide how much they value the form factor change in addition to the small bumps in the RAM and processor.
Agreed. I probably would’ve gone for that one, but I’ve had black phones three years in a row now so looking for something a bit different. 😊
Yes, agreed, for me the Air is perfect for the money.
Never needed that fancy Pro stuff I never use them according to my wife who uses those pro features...
I don’t think heat dissipation is a major problem, given that the SoC is behind the camera bar, and personally I’d also be fine with a non-Pro A19. The 13 mini has 72% of the surface area of the Air, while it’s nominal battery life (video playback) is only 60% of the Air (and mAh is 76% of the Air). So that would seem to roughly work out. Make it 6mm if needed.
No, the reasons aren’t technical, instead it’s that Apple doesn’t see a large-enough market for such a smaller-screen device.
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There was a YouTuber who sawed the camera bump of an iPhone Pro, and it still worked. I’m afraid it won’t work for the Air, having the SoC in the camera bar…
Kind of. It's still the red-headed stepchild of the iPad line. It gets the bare minimum attention from Timmy's boys, despite being the favorite of many of the user base.
I'm sure the hype will sell a lot of the iPhone Air devices.
One of these is not like the other.
According to this article, Apple may be using "binned" A19 chips in the iPhone 17 Air.
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It’s 27.7% less, to be more precise, closer to 1/4. You could go thinner — the 13” iPad Pro is only 5.1mm with a 2.2mm camera bump, compared to the Air’s 5.7 mm extra camera thickness (even just the camera plateau is over 3mm), and 4.8mm is rumored for the iPhone Fold — at the loss of a some battery, whose capacity is higher than some earlier iPhone models.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WHY THE FIRST AIR SUCKED. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 2020 AIR HOLY COW.I never had the old one, so I wouldn’t know. Don’t understand why you’re living in the past. The MacBook Air M1 is one of the best Macs I’ve ever owned. Even a friend who always goes for the much more expensive Pros chose the same one. Great battery life and great performance. Zero complaints here.
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The point was that it is much thinner and bigger difference than people give it credit for.
Its significantly lighter than the Pro Max and barely smaller. That will be important to some people. Personally I think they should have had it small over all, as well as being thin and light. Why not have it be the same size as the regular pro but thinner rather than this inbetweeener?
I really wonder if it will bend in peoples pockets, or have issues with getting hot because of the lack of mass.
I think its really dumb that the 17 pro doesn't have a TI case and is going back to glass. Its putting me on the fence to getting it, but I probably still will, since you have a case on the phone at all times anyway.
I really wonder if it will bend in peoples pockets, or have issues with getting hot because of the lack of mass.
I think its really dumb that the 17 pro doesn't have a TI case and is going back to glass. Its putting me on the fence to getting it, but I probably still will, since you have a case on the phone at all times anyway.
It doesn’t help to exaggerate the difference though when arguing for that.