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Can we talk about the new Disk Utility?

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nojkepop

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It is completely different in 10.11 El Capitan.
 

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I like the new look — assuming, of course, that features haven't been removed (as we all know happens when Apple decides to re-do apps). Some of the built-in apps haven't changed for years. Disk Utility has basically been the same since 10.0.

Another app I'd like to see redone is Keychain Access — perhaps to be more of a 1Password-type app; it certainly has the potential.
 

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One thing that's not working for me (yet) ist the ability to resize HFS+ partitions. I can change the size using the "cake", but can't apply the settings. Is it working for anyone? Yes, I did try it using the recovery partition, and not on my running system.
 
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rorschach said:
Some of the built-in apps haven't changed for years. Disk Utility has basically been the same since 10.0.
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Yep, perhaps the only app that has not seen a redesign since the Tiger days.
Disk Utility 10.4.png
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rorschach said:
I like the new look — assuming, of course, that features haven't been removed (as we all know happens when Apple decides to re-do apps).
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Don't worry, it happened. No more option to verify/repair permissions through the GUI.
 
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I think it's actually pretty slick. I warmed up to it really quick, just missing the permissions check although I assume since nothing can touch the System folder it really isn't needed anymore.

Still though, can you run Permissions check from Terminal? Asking for a friend... ;)

EDIT: Yep, you can. Command below for anyone interested (use at your own risk! It runs at the su)

sudo diskutil repairPermissions /
 
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tywebb13 said:
It is possible that the el capitan installer created a core storage logical volume and that this is what is preventing you from resizing. Run this in terminal to see if that is indeed the case:

diskutil cs list

Then if you want to revert it, do this:

diskutil coreStorage revert lvUUID


where lvUUID is the last lvUUID reported by the previous Terminal command.

Then restart for everything to get back to normal after you have run these commands in Terminal.

Now try to resize the partitions again.
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Yeah, that's not the issue tywebb13. That was one of the 1st things I checked too. I did run it through the terminal and it did repair some permissions. It seems to just be gone from the UI. There is a health option but it doesn't really break it down to disk permissions when repairing.
 
crjackson2134 said:
Yeah, that's not the issue tywebb13. That was one of the 1st things I checked too. I did run it through the terminal and it did repair some permissions. It seems to just be gone from the UI. There is a health option but it doesn't really break it down to disk permissions when repairing.
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Interesting, its working fine here on my MBP. It was a FileVault/CS disk before I disabled FV, and I was just able to setup another 10GB partition, delete it then resize my OS X disk.
 
iamMacPerson said:
Interesting, its working fine here on my MBP. It was a FileVault/CS disk before I disabled FV, and I was just able to setup another 10GB partition, delete it then resize my OS X disk.
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I'm not sure we're on the same page. Are you saying that you were able to select/use "Repair Permissions" using the new iteration of the graphical Disk Utility?

My answer directed to tywebb was that these options are missing, and it's not a CoreStorage volume. Are we taking about the same thing here?
 
I was just reading on OWC's website and saw that they say that if you have an OWC SSD you DO NOT need to have TRIM enabled.... aparently it is built into the SSD controler...? and that if you have an SSD drive or a few other brand drives, that having TRIM enabled will actually hurt the performance of the ssd drive... this is news to me. did anyone else know about this?
 
olletsocmit said:
I was just reading on OWC's website and saw that they say that if you have an OWC SSD you DO NOT need to have TRIM enabled.... aparently it is built into the SSD controler...? and that if you have an SSD drive or a few other brand drives, that having TRIM enabled will actually hurt the performance of the ssd drive... this is news to me. did anyone else know about this?
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New on screen trackpad is handy.
Seems manufacturer will add this function right into ssd, and reduce the dependency from OS. Am I right?
 
crjackson2134 said:
I'm not sure we're on the same page. Are you saying that you were able to select/use "Repair Permissions" using the new iteration of the graphical Disk Utility?

My answer directed to tywebb was that these options are missing, and it's not a CoreStorage volume. Are we taking about the same thing here?
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Wow I am an idiot. I skimmed your post and was saying 'partitions' in place of 'permissions'.

Yeah, they are totally gone. Doesn't mean they won't come back though!
 
stefanwa said:
One thing that's not working for me (yet) ist the ability to resize HFS+ partitions. I can change the size using the "cake", but can't apply the settings. Is it working for anyone? Yes, I did try it using the recovery partition, and not on my running system.
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Sorry for wrong statement. A logical volume was created. But somehow I cant revert it.
 
kwokaaron said:
You got to be kidding me. Why? This is annoying as hell.
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Because it happens automatically now and also "rootless" prevents apps from changing system files and their permissions.

On a side note, I find it quite amusing how people have fallen in love with "repair permissions" over the years and think it makes any significant difference to how OS X runs.
 
theSeb said:
Because it happens automatically now and also "rootless" prevents apps from changing system files and their permissions.

On a side note, I find it quite amusing how people have fallen in love with "repair permissions" over the years and think it makes any significant difference to how OS X runs.
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Well, I repair permissions only when I have problems modifying files and not for the sake of it.
 
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