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Can we talk about the new Disk Utility?
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You can set this option via TinkerTool. Even (Mac) OS X 10.5.x showed this window, if you used the correct settings. The newest version of TinkerTool supports OS X <= 10.11.x.
Sadly there is no debug menu, so TinkerTool can't activate it, it's greyed out. I really hate this damn new Disk Utility. It looks nice, that's all. You are not even able to enlarge that f*cking small window.
I have a beta version of Onyx 3.0 for El Capitan. If you activate it there, simply nothing happens, like typing in the Terminal such things as "defaults write com.apple.DiskUtility DUDebugMenuEnabled 1".
And a Screenshot from Onyx. I think none of that four options affects to the new Disk Utility:
P.S.: Festplattendienstprogramm = Disk Utility
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How is that a BS response? That's how it always works. 3rd party software never gets fully updated for new OS's until it's released. Why fix something and potentially have to fix it all over again if anything between beta and release changes? One fix when you know it's not going to change vs maybe having to fix multiple times.
^^^^Software folks issue Betas to the public all the time. Right now, think MS Office 2016, Nvidia Web Drivers and of course El Cap. Seems silly of them not to want testing in the field.
Lou
Lou
With PB5, TechTool Pro 8.02 is working sort of. When opened it installed a new helper. And you can run the diagnostic tests fine, but the tool box (or tools section) will not open so so none of those operations (like repair disk permissions) can be performed.
Lou
Lou
The new disk utility looks good but I would like to use the old one that has more features and more easy-to-use.
You are just being unrealistic because you simply lack inside knowledge about developing a piece of software. Which, btw, is fine because most people are.
If you read the reply you've gotten from the manufacturer properly it says that they don't want to invest time, money and other resources into something that is still subject to change. It is like you having to update the OS every single day in order to use it. Extremely annoying, time consuming and a complete waste of money. Most of the devs wait until the final version is released because then things won't change and thus they won't be wasting time, money, etc. There are some devs who are following the betas. They do that to see what things get broken in their software. Some of them even actively fix them and issue betas (either as a new beta or in their current betas).
Btw, there are no Office 2016 betas because it has been released little over a month ago.
^^^^Don't want to argue, but you're very wrong.
And, it seems Micromat has issued a new helper that installs itself when TechTool Pro 8.0.2 is now opened in El Cap. All the tests are available for use, but the Tool Box (or Tool Section) is grayed out and none of the tools are available for use. So was have progress.
BTW, there was a Public Beta of MS Office 2016 that was out for quite some time before the official release.
Lou
And, it seems Micromat has issued a new helper that installs itself when TechTool Pro 8.0.2 is now opened in El Cap. All the tests are available for use, but the Tool Box (or Tool Section) is grayed out and none of the tools are available for use. So was have progress.
BTW, there was a Public Beta of MS Office 2016 that was out for quite some time before the official release.
Lou
You are absolutely right. It was on March 5, 2015.
MR had threads (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/microsoft-launches-office-2016-for-mac-preview-available-for-free-to-mac-users.1852342/, https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/microsoft-updates-office-2016-for-mac-preview-with-updated-look-and-new-features.1867352/) dealing with it.
Which is completely irrelevant as the final release was before there even was a beta version of El Capitan. The only reason there was an Office beta is the same as why there is a beta for OS X: to test the new software. The Office 2016 was not meant to provide a version that runs on El Capitan and with the final release being before any El Capitan beta version that would even be impossible without a Tardis. If you are still running a beta version of Office 2016 then you are way behind.
As it is now, it seems that Office 2016 and El Capitan are not a very good match. That'll most likely get fixed in an update as they've done before. We just don't know when. Microsoft isn't the only company following that path. Just have patience and don't upgrade the moment the final version of El Capitan is released. Wait a little for software manufacturers to update their applications and drivers.
No, you are still not understanding things. The reason why Microsoft ran a beta version of Office 2016 was to test Office 2016. They didn't run a beta version to test if Office worked on El Capitan. Their beta program ended before the first beta of El Capitan was released. It has got nothing to do with the El Capitan betas whatsoever. You are simply using the wrong examples to make a point.
Like I said: some devs might give out betas to test for compatibility with El Capitan during the El Capitan betas but most won't due to the possibility of things changing. For them it is a complete waste of resources so they wait until the final version has been released (or the GM is released) and then start looking if their version is compatible with El Capitan.
Also, developers already running a beta program for their software might still only run it to test their new version and NOT test it for compatibility with El Capitan for the exact same reason: waste of resources. Some might use the beta program to test both their new version as well as compatibility with El Capitan because it means less waste of resources (if you are already beta testing things why not incorporate compatibility with the next major OS X release?).
Just because devs run a beta program for their software does not mean that they are testing it for compatibility against El Capitan. They might not even need it because things already work or it needs minor patchwork which can be done via an ordinary update. Many apps do just that. Also remember that a lot of stuff is done behind closed doors. We only get to see it when they release it to the general public.
Like I said: some devs might give out betas to test for compatibility with El Capitan during the El Capitan betas but most won't due to the possibility of things changing. For them it is a complete waste of resources so they wait until the final version has been released (or the GM is released) and then start looking if their version is compatible with El Capitan.
Also, developers already running a beta program for their software might still only run it to test their new version and NOT test it for compatibility with El Capitan for the exact same reason: waste of resources. Some might use the beta program to test both their new version as well as compatibility with El Capitan because it means less waste of resources (if you are already beta testing things why not incorporate compatibility with the next major OS X release?).
Just because devs run a beta program for their software does not mean that they are testing it for compatibility against El Capitan. They might not even need it because things already work or it needs minor patchwork which can be done via an ordinary update. Many apps do just that. Also remember that a lot of stuff is done behind closed doors. We only get to see it when they release it to the general public.
Just to add to this thread. I download the Beta for TechTool Pro 8.0.3 this morning. It works fine with El Cap (I'm running 10.11.1) and it includes Disk Permissions (both verify and repair). It only recognizes EL Cap OS disks, but that's fine with me.
Lou
Lou
Your so right mate, the new disk utility in El Capitan is a pile of crap, all dancing, all singing, colourful crap..!
I have tried to delete the Bootcamp partition, which I originally created in Show Leopard, as I have to do a fresh install with the windows OS I'm using, as there is no upgrade path.!
Can I delete it nahh; I can erase it and reformat it back to mac, though the partition stays there..! Why have they done this it's a bloody joke!?
I have noticed a serious decline in Mac reliability and it's all start since the passing of Steve Jobs, make me if I'm wrong..!
We've had Mavericks then Yosemite and now El Capitan all rubbish and I don't want to start on the phone side..!
I have been with Apple since the cream coloured power macs because they were dependable & reliable, though the last few years have got me thinking about PC..!
Isn't the Bootcamp Assistant able to delete the partition? Or if you boot into recovery and try it there with Disk Utility? You could also create an USB installer of an older OS X version and use the Disk Utility from that one.
In the meantime I indeed found a patched version of an older Disk Utility that seems to work with El Capitan, but I don't know if it's save to use it:
