Can we talk about the new Disk Utility?

Discussion in 'OS X El Capitan (10.11)' started by nojkepop, Jun 11, 2015.

  1. nojkepop macrumors newbie

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    It is completely different in 10.11 El Capitan.
     

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  2. rorschach macrumors 68020

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    I like the new look — assuming, of course, that features haven't been removed (as we all know happens when Apple decides to re-do apps). Some of the built-in apps haven't changed for years. Disk Utility has basically been the same since 10.0.

    Another app I'd like to see redone is Keychain Access — perhaps to be more of a 1Password-type app; it certainly has the potential.
     

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  3. stefanwa macrumors newbie

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    One thing that's not working for me (yet) ist the ability to resize HFS+ partitions. I can change the size using the "cake", but can't apply the settings. Is it working for anyone? Yes, I did try it using the recovery partition, and not on my running system.
     
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  5. redheeler, Jun 11, 2015
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    redheeler macrumors 603

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    Yep, perhaps the only app that has not seen a redesign since the Tiger days.
    Disk Utility 10.4.png Disk Utility 10.10.png

    Don't worry, it happened. No more option to verify/repair permissions through the GUI.
     
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  7. kirky29 macrumors 65816

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    Not sure why but I actually found it a little confusing! I liked the icons tho!
     
  8. iamMacPerson, Jun 11, 2015
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    I think it's actually pretty slick. I warmed up to it really quick, just missing the permissions check although I assume since nothing can touch the System folder it really isn't needed anymore.

    Still though, can you run Permissions check from Terminal? Asking for a friend... ;)

    EDIT: Yep, you can. Command below for anyone interested (use at your own risk! It runs at the su)

    sudo diskutil repairPermissions /
     
  9. redheeler macrumors 603

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    Yes, you can still run it through Terminal.
     
  10. iamMacPerson macrumors 68030

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    Ha lol. Should have checked my alerts before editing.
     
  11. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    Seems that windows 10 has changed it? I didn't remember.
    I mean, Windows 10 may be able to simply see the icon to recognise if disk is ssd or hdd.
     
  12. crjackson2134 macrumors 68020

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    Yeah, that's not the issue tywebb13. That was one of the 1st things I checked too. I did run it through the terminal and it did repair some permissions. It seems to just be gone from the UI. There is a health option but it doesn't really break it down to disk permissions when repairing.
     
  13. iamMacPerson macrumors 68030

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    Interesting, its working fine here on my MBP. It was a FileVault/CS disk before I disabled FV, and I was just able to setup another 10GB partition, delete it then resize my OS X disk.
     
  14. crjackson2134 macrumors 68020

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    I'm not sure we're on the same page. Are you saying that you were able to select/use "Repair Permissions" using the new iteration of the graphical Disk Utility?

    My answer directed to tywebb was that these options are missing, and it's not a CoreStorage volume. Are we taking about the same thing here?
     
  15. olletsocmit macrumors 6502

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    I was just reading on OWC's website and saw that they say that if you have an OWC SSD you DO NOT need to have TRIM enabled.... aparently it is built into the SSD controler...? and that if you have an SSD drive or a few other brand drives, that having TRIM enabled will actually hurt the performance of the ssd drive... this is news to me. did anyone else know about this?
     
  16. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    New on screen trackpad is handy.
    Seems manufacturer will add this function right into ssd, and reduce the dependency from OS. Am I right?
     
  17. kwokaaron macrumors 6502a

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    You got to be kidding me. Why? This is annoying as hell.
     
  18. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    Apple hope to lock core system files modifying permissions to eliminate any unnecessary checks and repairs.
    I think.
     
  19. rorschach macrumors 68020

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    I thought that was because Rootless is supposed to make that unnecessary.

    Presumably you can still do it in Terminal.
    Code:
    diskutil repairPermissions /
     
  20. iamMacPerson macrumors 68030

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    Wow I am an idiot. I skimmed your post and was saying 'partitions' in place of 'permissions'.

    Yeah, they are totally gone. Doesn't mean they won't come back though!
     
  21. stefanwa macrumors newbie

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    Sorry for wrong statement. A logical volume was created. But somehow I cant revert it.
     
  22. iamMacPerson macrumors 68030

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    Did you try Terminal? That's the only way to revert it. Is it encrypted via FileVault?
     
  23. olletsocmit macrumors 6502

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    speaking of FileVault... is there any update to it in the new OS X? seems its time for it to get an update!
     
  24. theSeb macrumors 604

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    Because it happens automatically now and also "rootless" prevents apps from changing system files and their permissions.

    On a side note, I find it quite amusing how people have fallen in love with "repair permissions" over the years and think it makes any significant difference to how OS X runs.
     
  25. kwokaaron macrumors 6502a

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    Well, I repair permissions only when I have problems modifying files and not for the sake of it.
     

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