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I learned on stick. Rare? I would hardly describe stick as rare.

Beside you bring a thread back from the dead that is almost 2 years old I would like to say a stick shift today in the United states is very uncommon at best and getting harder to find.

In many ways I miss my manual that I gave up 2 months ago after only driving a stick for pretty from the time I got my DL to now (14 years) but sitting in traffic times is not one of them. Now that being said if I would of fit in the Accord coupe V6 I can promise you I would be driving a stick now. Sadly I did not fit so I went with the Honda Crosstour (Auto only)
 
Then how does drive get from the engine to the wheel? Or does it have in-hub electric motors only?

Do you have a Tesla? Or some other kind of electric one-geared car?

It's a Tesla model S, having maximum torque for the entire acceleration curve is amazing.

But back on topic, I learned the stick on a old pinto back in the 80s. It was a horrible experience, terrible clutch, sticky accelerator and the floor was rusted through in front of the front seat.

I'm pretty sure that after mastering driving that car, i'll be able to drive any stick shift in any conditions for the rest of my life
 
Ahh, the stick shift driving experience. I learned in a 60 Corvette with 4 on the floor in the early 70's. Those were the days when you had have a strong arm to find the next gear on occasion. My next experience was 3 on the tree in a 69 GMC panel van. Now that was a beast to drive. Have had the fortune to mostly drive stick my whole life. Mostly drive sports cars, hence the shift drive.

Do not feel comfortable in an automatic as I am constantly going for the stick. Currently drive a Mini Cooper with stick and would not want it any other way. Love having the complete control of car when I am driving a little crazy.
 
Haven't owned a manual car for about 20 years. Love manual shifting but spend too much time in traffic and stop and go driving to want to deal with it.
 
Beside you bring a thread back from the dead that is almost 2 years old I would like to say a stick shift today in the United states is very uncommon at best and getting harder to find.

In many ways I miss my manual that I gave up 2 months ago after only driving a stick for pretty from the time I got my DL to now (14 years) but sitting in traffic times is not one of them. Now that being said if I would of fit in the Accord coupe V6 I can promise you I would be driving a stick now. Sadly I did not fit so I went with the Honda Crosstour (Auto only)

Before you go on accusing me, take note on who actually brought it back. Hint: it wasn't me.

Edit - Nevermind.... the person who did deleted their post.
 
Before you go on accusing me, take note on who actually brought it back. Hint: it wasn't me.

Edit - Nevermind.... the person who did deleted their post.

Ya, I saw the blank post before I posted... I wondered what he said and way he would delete it #
 
On the odd occasion I have driven automatic, I never know what to do with my other foot!

Well, that's simple - you use it to scare yourself and everyone around you with a random emergency stop...

Everyone I know who's changed to an automatic after years and years of manuals has done it at least once. (Generally as you approach a sharp bend etc)
 
My father began teaching me to drive when I was 13 in a tiny little Toyota pickup with a 4-speed manual transmission, and he gave me lessons and behind the wheel experience in that truck almost every weekend for two years. Some people give me an odd look when I tell them that I never even actually drove an automatic until after I got my license at 17. :)

Sometimes I feel I would rather walk everywhere than have to deal with an automatic. They never work like I feel they should - always downshifting too early, not up-shifting early enough; and when they get on up in their age, they become horribly unreliable with jarring shifts and infuriating problems with certain gears. That, and what everyone else has said; you feel more connected, in tune and in control with a manual. The driving experience is much more "real" and entertaining having to make the gear-shifting movements and decisions yourself. Automatics are just...boring.

But, to be completely honest I must also agree with many of the same posters as before; I have found myself more than once wishing that just for that moment, I had an auto instead when dealing with bumper-to-bumper, stop-and-go traffic. That left leg starts to hurt pretty bad, and soon you realize you're not doing your clutch any good when every little bit you can move your vehicle basically requires you to ride it the whole time.

(...sometimes because of the nature of a lot of my interests, I really think I was supposed to be born male. :eek:)

Well, that's simple - you use it to scare yourself and everyone around you with a random emergency stop...

Everyone I know who's changed to an automatic after years and years of manuals has done it at least once. (Generally as you approach a sharp bend etc)
I still do it at least once every single time on the odd occasion I drive an auto. Seriously, I've never heard anyone complain that the brake pedal in their manual-equipped vehicle isn't wide enough - and the idiot who suggested they be at least twice as much so in automatics should have some sense slapped into them. :mad:
 
I'am very happy with my new car. It does not even have a transmission:D
Just a quiet,smooth,constant acceleration 0-60 in 6 sec:cool:

But does it go VARoooooom? :p

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Beside you bring a thread back from the dead that is almost 2 years old

How important is that if someone has something relevant to say in a thread? A 2012 article says that manual transmission cars in the U.S. is almost up to 7%. :)
 
Ahh, the stick shift driving experience. I learned in a 60 Corvette with 4 on the floor in the early 70's. Those were the days when you had have a strong arm to find the next gear on occasion. My next experience was 3 on the tree in a 69 GMC panel van. Now that was a beast to drive. Have had the fortune to mostly drive stick my whole life. Mostly drive sports cars, hence the shift drive.

Do not feel comfortable in an automatic as I am constantly going for the stick. Currently drive a Mini Cooper with stick and would not want it any other way. Love having the complete control of car when I am driving a little crazy.

Column shifters require more to shift than most GM transmissions from those days..

But yes no helical cut gears no nylon bushings, no assisted clutch..i.e. good cars that don't break much and when they do you can actually fix them..

Thats one of the big reasons I bought my Jeep 2 live axles, 3sp auto, engine thats been made for 50 years etc.
 
The original post in this thread is mind blowing. :confused:

Yeah, that's coz your from the UK. Go to America, Australia or New Zealand and you'll find that almost all of the cars on the road are automatic. The only people with manuals there are the small minority that go out of their way to buy a manual because they prefer the experience. I myself do know how to drive a manual, but I don't because all the cars here are auto.
 
Strange that most of the posts in this thread are people who can drive manual - given the statistics you'd think we'd be the minority, but apparently Mac users like to row their own gears. :D

I'm on my third car, and all three have been manual transmissions, although this will be my first six speed.
 
First car I learned how to drive was a manual.
I've owned 5 cars and only this last one is a auto.
Was not able to get a manual, so I suffer :D with a steptronic transmission that I put into manual mode an use the paddles.

I do ride a motorcycle and and it's manual. :)
 
Yeah, that's coz your from the UK. Go to America, Australia or New Zealand and you'll find that almost all of the cars on the road are automatic.

I'm in NZ and most of the cars that I've driven (whether they belong to me, my family, my friends or my employer) are manual. While there are certainly some automatics on the road there's definitely no shortage of manuals.

So yes, I can drive a manual :)
 
hmm interesting as the same argument could come from the automatc driving fraction , as because you dont have to concentrate on all these gear changes , wipers headlights ...you could concentrate more on traffic

and after all you are using a Mac and OSX too or ? because it works automatic

People who have driven manual cars for a while usually don't concentrate on changing gears, they just do just without thinking about it. Do you think about where you need to navigate the cursor when using your computer?
 
I'm in NZ and most of the cars that I've driven (whether they belong to me, my family, my friends or my employer) are manual. While there are certainly some automatics on the road there's definitely no shortage of manuals.

So yes, I can drive a manual :)

As fuel efficiency gets pushed more and more the days of manual transmissions becoming numbered. Simple fact is automatics are getting less and less of a power penalty mix with the computer than can put the car in the right gear all the time. On top of all that CVT are becoming more common and that will put the engine at the best rev point for what ever is needed.

That and single gear electric cars.
 
Strange that most of the posts in this thread are people who can drive manual - given the statistics you'd think we'd be the minority, but apparently Mac users like to row their own gears. :D

Although most people on here that are of a decent age would know how to drive a manual simply because they were driving before automatics were common, even if they don't drive a manual now.

...That, and if someone sees a thread saying "Can you drive a stick shift car?" and they can drive one, they're more likely to go "ooh ooh! I can I can!" and post in the thread than someone who can't ;)
 
Manual (stick) shift cars are rare today and I'm wondering how many people still know how to drive them. How did you learn and do you have a desire to own one?

Rare? I wouldn't say they're rare. Cadillac even has a model with a stick now. The Subaru WRX isn't even available in an automatic in the United States (that's the car I currently have; an '11 WRX). Frankly, I've never owned an automatic. I've been driving now for 22 years now and this is my 4th car with a stick.

I learned to drive one, believe it or not, by playing the arcade game called Hard Drivin'. It was the first arcade game I know of that not only had force feedback steering, but it had a full manual gear box (including reverse on some editions) with a full clutch, brake and gas pedal and yes, you could stall the car. Admittedly, you won't get a great "feel" for a real clutch slipping and grabbing seeing as the game has no transferable vibrations from the "motor", but it was plenty good practice going through the gear changes. I drove my first car home from about 27 miles away and I think I only stalled it once on the way home. Of course, it took plenty more practice to get good on hills and creeping in traffic, etc., but as long as you have decent hand/eye coordination and the ability to rub your head and stomach at the same time you're whistling, I think you can learn to drive a stick in a reasonable amount of time.

The reasons for driving a stick are a little different now than back then. Back in the day, you got the best gas mileage with a stick. A stick typically cost $2500-5000 less than the same car with an automatic (even going through a clutch or two during the life of a car won't cost as much as that difference and if you're good with it, you shouldn't need a clutch for 100k-200k miles anyway; I sold my 2nd car (a Probe GT) with 140k on it and it was still on the original clutch. In fact, I liked that car's clutch better than any I've driven (i.e. it had a short throw and it was always easy to push in which is great in traffic jams and the transmission could creep at 2-3mph without stalling with the clutch fully engaged so it was GREAT in traffic jams, something many sticks give you a work out in like my first car which was a late '80s Cavalier Z24. The WRX I have now is somewhere in-between, although the acceleration is definitely NOT in the middle. :D

Anyway, the primary reason for a getting a stick shift in my mind is and has always been about CONTROL of the car. Newer "automatic manuals" with paddle shifters, etc. and/or dual clutches have largely wiped out the acceleration advantages manuals used to have over automatics, but in day-to-day use, I just can't abide paddle shifting. It's always count up, count down or stare at the dash to see what gear it's in now (the computer will typically shift down for you in some circumstances such as a stop without asking). Frankly, I'm surprised no one has made a traditional gear shifter but with "shift by wire" so you can directly select any gear selection instead of having to go through them sequentially yet it could (at the push of a button or stick position) go to full automatic at any time. Yeah, I'm VERY surprised one of these hasn't appeared yet. Maybe I should apply for the patent immediately (although the fact my PC gaming rig has basically just that makes it doubtful).

Then there's the old comparison to manual SLR cameras. A real photographer can still take great pictures with a fully manual camera whereas many amateurs would be lost without the automatic and semi-automatic exposure and/or focus controls on today's cameras. In other words, if you can drive a manual transmission WELL, then you can pretty much drive anything out there (well a big rig might take some practice, but you'd still be a hell of a lot better off than someone without those skills).

Oh and I'm willing to be half the people on here who THINK they know how to drive a stick, actually suck at it. I've ridden in cars with people that have driven sticks for over 20 years and it's JERK JERK JERK through the gears. I asked a friend of mine who fits that description when I rode with him if he ever HEARD of rev-matching and he said NO. Being able to get somewhere in a stick shift and being able to drive one CORRECTLY with almost no clutch wear and completely smooth (so smooth that the passengers can't even tell you shifted with their eyes closed and the stereo running) are two different things. ;)
 
Seeing this topic makes me miss that manual Corolla that I crashed last year. :( I learned how to drive stick in that car.

I'm currently driving an automatic now but have been wanting to get a car with manual transmission since I got it. My future car, hopefully a Tesla, will probably be all electric without a gear box so my career in driving stick may have come to an end.
 
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