iPhone 14 Pro Max Canceling 14PM

[Tevosn]

The dynamic pill seems to be a bit more distracting than the notch.
My hopes is that in a year or two the iPhone will be all display, not holding my breath though.

 

[profcutter]

What stable asset can you get in the current economy for $1000. A "blue chip" stock?
And the $1000 typically is a misnomer. If the poster has a 13 series, that phone has value, and unless they are passing it on to a family member, who then might be replacing a phone, which has value, etc., the new phone cost to them is only the delta from the $1000 to what they can get for their phone. If it is worth $700, the iterative upgrade is $300, or 30% of that. Just sayin'.

One 700th of a house in a major city on the West Coast?

 

[HackMacDaddy]

Seeing the keynote that immediately caught my attention too. Fullsize videoplayback looks odd with the DI. The notch is way more elegant and less distracting.

 

[bigjnyc]

That looks awful! The good news is DI is a stopgap until they put the faceID/camera under the display

I am afraid that after seeing the reception DI is getting... Apple is going to ride this for a few more versions of the phone... Why innovate a new tech when everyone is so enamored with this one and Apple can squeeze every penny out of it.

 

[erikkfi]

What stable asset can you get in the current economy for $1000. A "blue chip" stock?
And the $1000 typically is a misnomer. If the poster has a 13 series, that phone has value, and unless they are passing it on to a family member, who then might be replacing a phone, which has value, etc., the new phone cost to them is only the delta from the $1000 to what they can get for their phone. If it is worth $700, the iterative upgrade is $300, or 30% of that. Just sayin'.

I'd look at Vanguard funds that track the investment return of the overall stock market. That's been a little rough of late, of course, but long-term it's a great bet.

A tried and true approach is to split your investment between stock and bonds for more safety. As a rule of thumb, your bond investment percentage should be equivalent to your age (so if you're 19, invest 19% in bonds and the rest in stock). Vanguard has a total bond market ETF too.

 

[Oridus]

Seeing the keynote that immediately caught my attention too. Fullsize videoplayback looks odd with the DI. The notch is way more elegant and less distracting.

Everybody said the notch was horrendous and would be the downfall of apple when that came out… and here we are calling it elegant. Maybe let’s give the new UI w/ the new cutout a chance.

 

[ckurt25]

Most videos you'll be focusing on the middle of the screen anyway, I get it could be a distraction but not enough to make me cancel. Any video worth watching I'd stream to my TV or watch on my TV or Macbook.

Anyone's eyes are going to be drawn to it. Wanna know why? Because it's new and you've never seen the DI before. If someone can use a 13P and not be distracted by the notch, they will eventually not be distracted by the DI.

 

[Dealmans]

I've never watched a movie on my phone. That's what iPads and Macs are for. But to each their own.

Some only have a iPhone, we have one in our house only uses a 11 pro max for everything.

 

[Drowssap]

Seeing the keynote that immediately caught my attention too. Fullsize videoplayback looks odd with the DI. The notch is way more elegant and less distracting.

He gets it, My intensions were not to get anyone upset, I made a comment and gave an opinion, isn't that what we do here ?

 

[TheSynchronizer]

The difference is that the island cuts further down into the screen than the notch.

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This. Other than gimmick island, the pill design effectively reduces the usable screen size and I just don't see how it's a superior design to the notch. I'm happily staying on my 13 pro too

 

[klasma]

Probably on all phones next year and just like eSims. Kinda hard to draw line in the sand and say youre never going there if ever plan to buy new Apple device again.

This too shall pass. I would bet that the iLand will be discontinued before the 13PM goes out of support.

 

[Oridus]

This. Other than gimmick island, the pill design effectively reduces the usable screen size and I just don't see how it's a superior design to the notch. I'm happily staying on my 13 pro too

A gimmick because you don’t like what you see or a gimmick because you think literally no one will make use of it. I have a feeling for as long as the keep it, it will have some really nice functionality and will get better with more apps that can take advantage of it. For me sports score updates without swapping between apps? Yes. Please! I’m looking forward to it

 

[Shh]

Good thing you guys have tried it before passing judgement.

 

[klasma]

I don't understand what the difference is between having the notch cut in to the video versus the DI? is it because the DI has a space above it that's bothering you?

The DI appears more as an object of its own than the notch which is “just” an extension of the frame.

 

[TheSynchronizer]

A gimmick because you don’t like what you see or a gimmick because you think literally no one will make use of it. I have a feeling for as long as the keep it, it will have some really nice functionality and will get better with more apps that can take advantage of it. For me sports score updates without swapping between apps? Yes. Please! I’m looking forward to it

Personally I don't think the loss in useable screen space is worth what the dynamic island is offering at all. I haven't seen a single convincing benefit of the island yet, not to mention that when it expands it covers up the other status bar icons.

Live activities e.g. score updates will be just a swipe away in the notification center on all other iphones - no app switching needed.

The new notch size on the 13 mini already cut into regular 18:9 youtube videos at default zoom levels. Videos with wide aspect ratios e.g. 18:9 on the 13 pro / 14 on default zoom levels already reach the literal pixel tip of the notch. This means that the new pill on the 14 pro will undoubtedly cut into those videos by default, the only solution being zooming out the whole video with bigger letterboxing all around. But since that hasn't changed on youtube on the 13 mini to this day, it's not guaranteed.

 

[Drogba11]

I’m glad my preorder on the upgrade program doesn’t deliver until mid Oct which will give me time to read the real world reviews of the 14PM. I can still get it and return and keep the 13PM if I don’t like it.

 

[bigjnyc]

The DI appears more as an object of its own than the notch which is “just” an extension of the frame.

Fair enough.. I could see that

 

[gtg465x]

Even though it extends a tiny bit further down, iOS rarely used that space for anything, so you're not losing any usable screen real estate most of the time. Just look at the photo a few posts back... no useful information is cut off, and actually, the higher resolution gives you a few extra pixels of content, which you can see by looking at the extra blue shown on the 14 above the first text bubble.

 

[roland.g]

One 700th of a house in a major city on the West Coast?

West Coast of what? The USA? No major city in CA that I know of has any houses for $700k, certainly none that most would consider. That market is out of control. But that is an interesting REIT. One Seven Hundredth...

 

[TheSynchronizer]

iOS rarely used that space for anything, so you're not losing any usable screen real estate most of the time.

I beg to differ.

That’s the 13 mini on the left - the regular 14 pro island will protrude out even more.

 

[gtg465x]

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I beg to differ.

That’s the 13 mini on the left - the regular 14 pro island will protrude out even more.

That's an ultra-wide video. Less than 1% of YouTube videos are like that. Like I said, rarely.

 

[profcutter]

West Coast of what? The USA? No major city in CA that I know of has any houses for $700k, certainly none that most would consider. That market is out of control. But that is an interesting REIT. One Seven Hundredth...

Seattle. Or Portland. You can still get a small house in Seattle or a fairly nice one in Portland for that price. That’s it as far as I know.
Example:

10214 12th Avenue NE, Seattle, WA 98125 | Zillow

10214 12th Avenue NE, Seattle WA, is a Single Family home that contains 1230 sq ft and was built in 1926.It contains 3 bedrooms and 1 bathroom.This home last sold for $622,000 in December 2022. The Zestimate for this Single Family is $770,900, which has decreased by $9,933 in the last 30...

www.zillow.com

It’s Maple Leaf, not a bad neighborhood actually.

And yes, totally out of control. That house should be 250, maybe 300. It’s totally nuts.

 

[Oridus]

Personally I don't think the loss in useable screen space is worth what the dynamic island is offering at all. I haven't seen a single convincing benefit of the island yet, not to mention that when it expands it covers up the other status bar icons.

Live activities e.g. score updates will be just a swipe away in the notification center on all other iphones - no app switching needed.

The new notch size on the 13 mini already cut into regular 18:9 youtube videos at default zoom levels. Videos with wide aspect ratios e.g. 18:9 on the 13 pro / 14 on default zoom levels already reach the literal pixel tip of the notch. This means that the new pill on the 14 pro will undoubtedly cut into those videos by default, the only solution being zooming out the whole video with bigger letterboxing all around. But since that hasn't changed on youtube on the 13 mini to this day, it's not guaranteed.

okay… well you do you boo. That mm or two shift will feel like nothing for most consumers. The people on this forum are a different beast lol. Those of us who have ordered most likely will enjoy it, you stick with what you like.

 

[eeewing]

First, to each their own! I completely understand the concerns folks are expressing about the DI being placed lower on the screen, etc. At the same time, it feels a bit like deja vu; similar arguments were put forth 5 years ago when the notch was introduced.

With every technological change there are pros and cons. When the notch was introduced, the obvious con was that there was suddenly a very noticeable "bite" taken out of the screen. The "pro," of course, was that the screen itself was significantly enlarged; arguably, the gains greatly outweighed the losses.

In my mind, the same thing is happening now. Just to re-frame the conversation a bit, here is a graphic look at what you're gaining in screen real estate with the move to the "Dynamic Island":

Compared to the iPhone 13 and 14, having the Dynamic Island instead of The Notch means that you're gaining about twice as much screen real estate as you're losing. When compared to the iPhone 12, it's even more.

At the end of the day, though, it's your money. Do what makes you happy! I personally prefer both the aesthetics and usability of the Dynamic Island (based on what I've seen prior to release), but I can understand the folks who don't. I guess that's why we have choices.

 

[Marty80]

I am still using a iPhone 12 Pro Max and am not planning to upgrade for a dynamic island, always on display or an improved camera. Even more for the iPhone 15 pro max which also based on rumours seems like another incremental update.

Unless you got money to burn older iPhone’s from the iPhone X onwards will still suffice, and you can still enjoy the latest iOS update.