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iPhone 17 Pro Can’t believe Apple released an iPhone Pro that feels this cheap.
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Don’t tell me to relax. I love bashing Apple! That’s not what’s going on here. What’s going on here is the usual new iPhone freakout cycle. Everyone upgrades and expects their new phone to be perfect in every way — until it chips a little, or the battery isn’t what they wanted, or (remember this one?) it drops calls if you hold it wrong.
It’s just exhausting.
I agree with you on that. Every new iPhone is met with the usual half dozen tryingtofindthenewgate posts. A lot of stuff is over exaggerated. A lot of it is just people trying to start crap to mess with people as far as getting them to think something’s actually wrong with their stuff. Regardless of that though, issues do exist. The MagSafe ring thing? It’s really not that big of a deal to be honest. But it does exist. Idk about you, but I have yet to own anything in my life that hasn’t had a least 1 issue of some sort.
Time for you to go touch some grass. Seriously.
I don’t think this years model feels cheap, but it ain’t no stainless steel or titanium.
The materials DO feel vastly different when you hold them in your hand.
The materials DO feel vastly different when you hold them in your hand.
lol yeah because the phones are made up of a cheaper, softer metal. I wouldn’t call that rhetoric lol. it’s factual. any one justifying it for “thermal” and “performance” reasons is a victim of excellent marketing. I’ve owned just about every iPhone since 07 and my 15 pro max feels 10x more premium than the 17 pro max.
My air feels better than both.
Maybe it’s exhausting because you’re on a public forum reading every single post lol.
Everyone complains about everything, everywhere. Perhaps you’re focusing on it too much.
Friendly reminder: there’s some type of forum for just about every product or experience. And you will inevitably find complaints.
I need to touch grass for telling people not to freak out when their phone made from aluminum and glass turns out to not be invincible? Feels a little backwards.
That’s where it’s going. Apple plans to release a larger XL Air in 2017. This a X>XS moment.
If the 17 is performing as it should, that means you knowing the phone has aluminum triggered you into believing something is inherently wrong with the phone when there isn't a problem.
While stainless steel and titanium was nice for the 14/15 I’m personally glad they went back to aluminum for this year.. with the vapor chamber the heat distribution on the phone is much better. I always put a case on my daily driver so at the end of the day it doesn’t matter to me since I don’t see it.. but cuts down the the weight of the phone as well.
I’ve pushed the 17PM hard and it’s barely got warm so, aluminum+vapor chamber really helps.
Just MHO.
I’ve pushed the 17PM hard and it’s barely got warm so, aluminum+vapor chamber really helps.
Just MHO.
I guess we can agree to disagree. Hopefully those who don't like it will enjoy next year's phone.
these are not from the heat of MagSafe, they're from sand/dust/particles being pressed into the phone by the magnets and slid around as it rotates. same reason I never put my iPhone face down on things (well, I do, and my iPhone is scratched for it, but...)
Going from titanium to aluminum and saying its cause heat distribution is a lie. The rails of the 16 pros were titanium but the body was aluminum and they cheapened it by making it a unibody aluminum frame. Its like last years 16's with pro internals and should be cheaper for that.
I’m on the annual upgrade program. I actually think my 16 Pro felt heavier than the 17 Pro.
I like this years regular model, and the Air. Just don't care for the Pro line.
The rounded edges are really nice, however.
Actually I will say it appears that the iPhone 17 Pro is holding up way better in drops than last years 16 Pro. This video shows several drops from varying heights comparing the new 17 Pro to last years 16 Pro and the 17 Pro holds up better in all areas over the 16 Pro except superficial scratches and some small dents to the aluminum frame.
The 17 Pro screen never breaks and the back of the 17 Pro looks really good after higher drops compared to the 16 Pro that has it back glass crack and shatter. Not to mention the 16 Pro screen shatter after just two drops and the 17 Pro screen never shatters, even drops from over the guys head.
I am not saying that the 17 Pro doesn't scratch easier than the 16 Pro because it possibly does, but in a more practical sense the 17 Pro does seem to be more durable than past iPhone Pro models.
Perhaps those members of the forum so fast to defend Apple about day zero scratches should maybe consider that a new iPhone is a sizable purchase for a lot of people.
Opening a new ~$1,200 device only to scratch it immediately is upsetting and it shouldn’t happen in 2025. How can this happen after so many years of development and testing going back to the first iPhone?
To me, it is yet another example of how Apple is mostly gimmicks and marketing all intended to inflate the stock price and make the line go up. Apple Intelligence last release cycle anyone?!
Apple stopped innovating years ago because of stock buybacks and market manipulation. If you think otherwise reality would like a word.
Opening a new ~$1,200 device only to scratch it immediately is upsetting and it shouldn’t happen in 2025. How can this happen after so many years of development and testing going back to the first iPhone?
To me, it is yet another example of how Apple is mostly gimmicks and marketing all intended to inflate the stock price and make the line go up. Apple Intelligence last release cycle anyone?!
Apple stopped innovating years ago because of stock buybacks and market manipulation. If you think otherwise reality would like a word.
The TV ads emphasize this years “pro” phones as being “invincible”. Apple spent a significant amount of time talking about how tough they were at the release announcement as well.
In the same way the 15 was marketed as “the Titanium phone” and the 16 was marketed as “the Apple Intelligent phone” the 17 is being marketed as “the super tough, invincible phone”. It is going to be particularly jarring when this years “pros” seem more scratch and ding prone them previous years.
OP isn’t wrong.
Saw them yesterday. The Pro and the non-Pro felt the same to me.
If it wasn’t for the USB 3 file transfer speed and the flash being further away from the lenses on the Pro, I would be getting the non-Pro this year.
If it wasn’t for the USB 3 file transfer speed and the flash being further away from the lenses on the Pro, I would be getting the non-Pro this year.
I thought this video defined it pretty well, especially towards the end.
Their video recording capabilities is on par with more expensive cameras, and can absolutely be used in professional workflows. IIRC, at the start of the iPhone keynote, Apple said the entire event was recorded on an iPhone. I don't think it was an idle boast.
I have to disagree with the OP.
The Pro models feel solid and look nice.
The iPhone Air on the other hand - looks like a luxurious piece of glass. Premium to the core. Well done Apple 👏
The Pro models feel solid and look nice.
The iPhone Air on the other hand - looks like a luxurious piece of glass. Premium to the core. Well done Apple 👏