Do you think that Iusacell will start selling the CDMA iPhone? I think it would be interesting if they did, they copy everything from Verizon (the red, the way they set their stores, their ads...everything)
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CDMA iPhone 4 Headed to Other Countries?
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Do you think that Iusacell will start selling the CDMA iPhone? I think it would be interesting if they did, they copy everything from Verizon (the red, the way they set their stores, their ads...everything)
Telstra in Australia
New Zealand Telecom in New Zealand
Telus and Bell in Canada
had CDMA networks and transitioned to GSM/UMTS in portions of the same frequency band. They ran them concurrently (The canadian carriers are still running the CDMA network).
Telstra's at the time was the largest network by area in the world and they built one twice the size in just 10 months.
The world knows this and China is part of the world. China's bulk of clients are GSM.
4G is almost non-existent in the World:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
Apple's two options:
GSM model: UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA model: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz)
CHINA: GSM 3G 2100 Mhz.
China Telecom seems to be the logical buyer. They are a GSM provider as well.
China Unicom is building out a WCDMA 3G network. They are also a GSM provider.
China Mobile's approach to 3G is TD-CDMA which is being built presently. Their 2G is GSM.
CDMA World Wide: http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp
550 Million
GSM World Wide: 4+ Billion.
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It'd be big if the iPhone went to Japan's DoCoMo. It's on Softbank but DoCoMo is their biggest network and smart phones are really taking off there.
It'd be big if the iPhone went to Japan's DoCoMo. It's on Softbank but DoCoMo is their biggest network and smart phones are really taking off there.
Not that I know and I agree with you. If this happens, my next phone is probably an Android based one.
This phone has nothing to do with you UK people.
Gosh, its like every story has to be about you
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I know ( well, hope) this post is sarcastic but it isn't pure self centeredness. The majority of Americans are lucky if they can make one overseas trip a year no matter how interested they might be in traveling - not just for financial reasons but because there's less vacation time. Is it worth having lousier service 50 weeks of the year to use your iPhone for 2 in Europe? I don't think so.
Verizon didn't know GSM would become the global pick when they went with CDMA. It's unfortunate, but that's how it went and from what I understand it was the higher quality choice at the time. And given the superior indoor penetration I've witnessed (not to mention it holding up over AT&T at large events) I have a hard time considering it poor tech over GSM...sim cards and voice+data notwithstanding.
Apple basically considers mobile operators to be dumb pipes.
Apple is, of course, correct. There is no value-add from cellular companies. They're a utility like city sewers or the mailman.
Apple has treated all of its cellular partners equally. No branding, no junkware, no revenue sharing.
When Apple visited Verizon, they threw the terms on the table and said, "These are the same as what everyone else got. Oh, and we may drop by Sprint and T-Mobile USA."
Verizon picked up the pen, looked up and replied, "Where do we sign?"
When Apple visits Sprint and T-Mobile USA, their conversations will be even shorter.
A lot of it is due to legacy reasons. For example, Telecom NZ had rights to 850 MHz frequency, and GSM only ran at 900 at the time, "forcing" a CDMA buildout (although CDMA's future wasn't looking bad at the time). The real nail in the coffin for it here was when Telstra in Australia decided to ditch CDMA, as Australia is the most popular travel destination.
Telecom still supports CDMA, although EVDO was turned off a couple of months ago. The current network is HSPA+ and Telecom's encouraging customers to migrate over to it, but CDMA is still going to stick around until at least the middle of next year.
Meanwhile Vodafone NZ has committed to maintaining GSM until 2020 (think of the inbound roaming revenue), and even still sells new GSM phones!
That's certainly the case here. Telecom's now-legacy CDMA network has better call quality etc than Vodafone's GSM network. It also doesn't have the "GSM buzz" that makes your speakers go when you receive a call
Here is a perfect example of a monkey doing a few wiki search drop in some Mhz then tells Apple what they need to make and do. lol
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It'd be handy for US/European travellers if Apple did pentaband GSM like Nokia do. You'd get 3G on any GSM network which in the USA would mean 3G on t-Mobile and AT&T using the same hardware. With Apple being so US-centric, it surprises me that they've not done so already.
With Apple being so US-centric I'd be surprised if that wasn't exactly why they don't do it.
The real CDMA and GSM numbers are actually quite a bit smaller. Those are measuring 2G, but that is an erroneous measure as the devices in question are focused on 3G technologies.
For instance, the iPhone on China Mobile will work on GSM but their homegrown TD-SCDMA will not allow the iPhones W-CDMA to work. For this reason Id remove the 580M subs from the China Mobile list.
Additionally, S. Korea has about 50M subscribers on their CDMA network, but only about 8M on LG have EV-DO for 3G, which the rest on the two largest mobile networks using UMTS for 3G. This is important because the GSM/UMTS iPhone is sold there and very popular but only uses their modern 3G network, not the antiquated CDMA. For this reason 40M subs need so be removed from the potential CDMA listing.
In other words, we should only be counting network subscribers based on their 3G technologies, not their 2G technologies as it gives a false sense of usage and saturation.
1) In regards to GSM 4 bands is the maximum.
2) In regards to UMTS the Nokia N8 and iPhone 4 both are pentaband. The difference is Apple hasnt enabled the 5th band, which is apparently only widely used on Japans largest mobile network, NTT docomo.
3) I suppose they planned to partner with NTT docomo, use it as leverage against SoftBank or there was some deal that made it a viable over the quadband chip. Adding T-Mobile USAs 1700MHz AWs band would be nice, but I think NTT docomo is a better move in regards to unit sales.
I have no problem texting and talking on my current verizon phone. I realize this is not true data service at the same time as talk.
No you dont. IUSACELL mentioned it via Twitter back in October. Apple was probably in talks with them, but after that reveal its possible Apple will punish them for being asshats.
We already have cdma iPhonein mexico since December 2010 on IUSACEL xD
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In regards to the iPhone...
CDMA has better voice algorithm than GSM.
CDMA/EVDO offers better coverage in your area over GSM/UMTS.