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CDMA iPhone on US Cellular
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It doesn't even exist in most markets. As in, they don't offer service. IMO, that's why most people have never heard of it and assume it's a rinky-dink little company.
I know, how could anyone doubt it?
lol
Exactly. You've apparently seen the light. Finally.
Where is yours... all I have is your word, vs my proof; which is easily corroborated.
It restores my faith in your capability for critical thinking.Yes, you made me a believer
CDMA is not like GSM. There is no SIM which allows the easy movement between networks. Instead, phones are have to be registered on the network by your carrier. There is no way for a user to switch a Verizon CDMA phone to use the Sprint or US Cellular network. It's a completely different ball game.
Already been established that there will have to be a different hardware platform for the iPhone to go CDMA. Just like all the other handset mfgrs.
Correct.
That hasn't been my experience. As long as the provider is willing to accept the device on their network (i.e. Verizon has said that they will accept pretty much any CDMA device), it can work. However, the phone itself can still be locked to a network. So if Apple releases a CDMA iPhone, and locks it to Sprint, I don't see why someone couldn't hack it, figure out an unlock, and then register it with Verizon for service.
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That above is a common practice so us not hearing anything does not mean anything.
Tell you the truth their is something call and R-UIM out their that is a CDMA version of the SIM card. Just most CDMA carriers choose not to support it. Hell the GSM carriers could go the same way CDMA carriers use and choose to go by the IMEI number to link the phone to the phone number.
I just couldnt deny it any more cause of all the proof and evidence that you presented so I caved in
It's also common practice to field test an iPhone before release. Hence, we all knew about the 3GS, and the 3G before hand because we saw their identifiers flying around in the servers of Pinch Media, event that has happened again. This time iPhone3,1 has been spotted.
As soon as Cricket gets one.
Which will happen after they make an iDEN phone for SouthernLINC wireless
Again this is apple we are talking about and something like a CDMA phone they would keep VERY heavily under wraps. 3GS and 3G yeah apple would want to keep quiet about but it is not critical if things like that leak out (3G and 3GS) as it was an iPhone but did not give out any real info.
There are ways to hide the info in the field testing.
They still need to test it! The iPad1,1 was seen before being released as well in Pinch Media. Not rocket science.
I just couldnt deny it any more cause of all the proof and evidence that you presented so I caved in
Aw shucks...I didn't do nuthin'... it's so obvious you'd have tumbled to it eventually anyway.
Back in April - June 2007, there were about 200 secret field testers for the first iPhone.
I don't recall its user agent being spotted back then. As R.P. said above, they could set up test units with any string they want.
I don't recall its user agent being spotted back then. As R.P. said above, they could set up test units with any string they want.
There are also GSM/UMTS networks in China. Apple's own advertising of iPhone has emphasised the talk and surf at the same time aspect that EV-DO cannot do.
Please see below.
The iPad being seen early in testing not a big deal. It was pretty well known by leaks a pad of some type of coming so again Pinch Media seeing it not a huge deal.
It comes down to what does apple have to lose by an item leaking out. CDMA iPhone apple has a lot to loose because they would lose bargaining chips with AT&T and the China GSM carrier. Not a good thing.
Now iPad leaking out in testing Apple really did not have anything to lose there. Not 3G or 3GS appearing in testing because again who cares it was a pretty well known fact that they were coming.
And your point is???
Apple also bashed intel heavily and praised how much better PPC was up until they announced they were going over to Intel. From that day on PPC suck according to apple.
This shows that you have no idea of the GSM specification. IMEI is deliberately tied to the equipment, not the subscriber to allow world phones that do not require specific programming to work with specific carriers. Instead the SIM deliberately carries that information. Also there are no encryption algorithms carried in the phone. That again is carried in the SIM as is the pre shared key for the encryption. GSM cannot work without the SIM.
My point is GSM is a solution that Apple already is using. They could switch to CDMA, but why would they for 2 markets that already both have GSM/UMTS. GSM/UMTS and CDMA are going to be obselete within 2-3 years (the amount of time that it would take Verizon to get a 4G (LTE) network that matches AT&Ts 3G network in terms of coverage. By the way that is a conservative estimate. Verizon think they can do their complete coverage area in that time).
PPC was better until the core series of chips. That's when Intel made a breakthrough. Interestingly enough that was about the time that IBM were letting Apple down. There was a sound business case for the move.
You missed the point.....
Just because they could do it technology wise does not mean that they can do it per GSM specifications.
Some CDMA carriers choose to tie IMEI to the subscriber.
Now if you want a phone that can run with our with out a sim card just go look at the Blackberry Storm. It can run with a SIM on CDMA but runs on GSM with the a sim.
The SIM is nothing more than a way to identify the subscriber and carrier. If a GSM carrier wanted to it could go slightly off GSM standards and say IMEI number identifies the phone. Now it breaks a lot of GSM rules but it can be done.
No it can't. The handsets have been deliberately manufactured not to work without a sim. The BlackBerry Storm can function in that way because the CDMA specification does allow for it. GSM doesn't
Thank your for proving how little you know about LTE and the change over because if you think in 2-3 years Verizon will no longer need there CDMA network and be all on LTE then you are truly clueless.
Verizon CDMA network will be up and running for at least the next 10-15 years if not longer. Hell AT&T and other GSM carrier EDGE network will be running for that much longer and require all the phones to support the older network.
We have had 3G rolled out now for what now 5-6 years and we still quite often have our phones use EDGE.
There is no point to turn off the old system when the other one rules out. It will take decades yes DECADES to complete get LTE up and running. The network is already built out on the older technology.
As for Verizon and Spirit rolling out their 3G network faster than AT&T 3G is because for them it was more of a software change over and not a hardware one. AT&T to get 3G up and running was a hardware change over and to top it off AT&T tower placement was optimism for TDMA style network and AT&T 3G tower network needed to be set up for a CDMA style network.