CES 2012 Kicks off Next Week: Gorilla Glass, Vizio, Windows Phone, Ultrabooks

[gkroeger]

HDMI in.... iMacs and Thunderbolt displays need this!

It looks like the Vizio all-in-one has HDMI input but no TV tuner.

My daughter has a nice Thunderbolt display, but can't hook up a blu-ray player or cable box in her room... really a waste caused by the "Steve doesn't want it" mentality at Apple. If it weren't for Windows, I wouldn't buy Apple products, but Mac OS remains a killer feature.

 

[divinox]

That's usually the best most people can do. And it's from over a decade ago.

Several years later. Still crap.

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Problem solving always rests with the user, not the platform.

E.g. I have NO skills problem solving Linux . . . doesn't mean that Linux is crap, just that I (ME . . . Digital Skunk himself) has absolutely no skills whatsoever in dealing with Linux.



Power user usually implies someone that taxes the hardware of the machine, not the customization of the OS. If I dumped my OSX boxes and went Windows, I'd be a power user instantly without having to know how to change the color of my toolbar.

The flexibility of an OS is still very personal. I could say the same thing about Windows based on it's inability to run any Mac software, or having to dig far and wide for apps like Automator, Digital Color Meter, Daylite, etc.

Your post would've had relevance if i had said "i have more problem solving skills...". However, i said "i need more problem solving skills...". Keyword: need. What follows: the same level of skill gets me further on one platform than the other. Ergo: the platform too certainly matters. Technology is not neutral.

 

[*LTD*]

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Several years later. Still crap.

It's actually a highly successful product (which is why Apple still sells it.)

And it's still an iPod.

You really can't find much, can you?

 

[divinox]

It's actually a highly successful product (which is why Apple still sells it.)

And it's still an iPod.

You really can't find much, can you?

Windows sells too, and yet its carp (to you). We've been over this quite a few times by now. Make up your mind - are you going to eat the cake, or have it?

Now, regardless of sales the buttonless shuffle, is, was, and will forever be a crappy product. On the contrary, the hifi sold like crap, and was a great product. Lesson to be learned: its oft-times easier to make crap sell, than to sell truly great stuff. Then again, the market for the former will always be larger.

 

[Digital Skunk]

Your post would've had relevance if i had said "i have more problem solving skills...". However, i said "i need more problem solving skills...". Keyword: need. What follows: the same level of skill gets me further on one platform than the other. Ergo: the platform too certainly matters. Technology is not neutral.

No totally wrong.

The same level of skill with one platform means nothing when you head over to another. Again, I am a "power user" in the Mac OSX space. I can get into terminal and change much of everything or find the appropriate apps to do so for me.

Once I head to Linux that skill means much less, the same for Windows or Fedora or Red Hat. Now what those posters were saying was that it's the OS's fault that they can't learn how to make changes, which is false.

Ergo, my statement still stands as being correct. A person's level of skill manipulating an OS is dependent on the person.

Going back to your original statement:

i need more problem solving skills managing my macs than my pc.

it seems that you are correct. You seem to be saying that you (as in you) need more skills managing your Macs, which is understandable if it's a new environment to you. I would say the same thing if I had to switch from the Mac ecosystem to the Windows one.

 

[divinox]

No totally wrong.

The same level of skill with one platform means nothing when you head over to another. Again, I am a "power user" in the Mac OSX space. I can get into terminal and change much of everything or find the appropriate apps to do so for me.

Once I head to Linux that skill means much less, the same for Windows or Fedora or Red Hat. Now what those posters were saying was that it's the OS's fault that they can't learn how to make changes, which is false.

Ergo, my statement still stands as being correct. A person's level of skill manipulating an OS is dependent on the person.

Once again, that would be relevant if we were talking about the person, and not the technological artifact. Some cars are easier to drive than others. Some artifacts are easier to use than others. Does earlier experience matter? Certainly, but that was not my point.

Furthermore, the OS most certainly plays a part in how easy it is to learn how to make changes. Ignoring that would be like ignoring that a brick is different from glass.

Going back to your original statement:

it seems that you are correct. You seem to be saying that you (as in you) need more skills managing your Macs, which is understandable if it's a new environment to you. I would say the same thing if I had to switch from the Mac ecosystem to the Windows one.

OSX is not really a new environment to me. Its quite simply giving me a harder time in the day-to-day use than Windows is. I never really thought of the power-user scenario, as that one isn't all that relevant for most people (and highly dependent on user skill). That said, both OS's work fine and have ups and downs of their own.

 

[Digital Skunk]

Once again, that would be relevant if we were talking about the person, and not the technological artifact. Some cars are easier to drive than others. Some artifacts are easier to use than others. Does earlier experience matter? Certainly, but that was not my point.

Furthermore, the OS most certainly plays a part in how easy it is to learn how to make changes. Ignoring that would be like ignoring that a brick is different from glass.



OSX is not really a new environment to me. Its quite simply giving me a harder time in the day-to-day use than Windows is. I never really thought of the power-user scenario, as that one isn't all that relevant for most people (and highly dependent on user skill). That said, both OS's work fine and have ups and downs of their own.

All very good points and all very true, save for the fact that it's still not up to the OS if an end user is having harder time than usual, or if the user can't learn how to make changes easier.

 

[andy721]

Really little I know about a brand that has crap plastic parts made from Sony? Oh sorry did I pinpoint that, my friend worked for them and I know just as much as he does as he tells me not to even come close to buying such a brand. Wise up people and let go of your ego it's getting cliche and annoying. Learn to admit when you're wrong.

Just goes to show how little you know about Vizio. My Vizio TV cost way less then a high end name brand and has a better picture to boot. my Friend has a Vizio tv and it has not failed yet (going on 5 years old).

They are not America's second best selling LCD TV brand for nothing.[/QUOTE]