CES 2012 Kicks off Next Week: Gorilla Glass, Vizio, Windows Phone, Ultrabooks

[dukemeiser]

I think the Visio PC looks good, not great. The display looks strange with that thin stand. It certainly looks better than the plastic boxes that the majority of PC makers churn out. BUT, it still runs Windows. It's the software stupid. I can see this taking market share way from other PC box makers, but not Apple.

 

[Oletros]

Go to an Apple Store, and try one.

2560 x 1440 pixels top quality display. MacOS X Lion. Absolutely quiet. Build quality that blows away any old PC. Beautiful design (the one item on the list that Vizio intends to do as well. I am sure they can manage "nicer than the average old PC", whether they can manage "beautiful" remains to be seen). People in their stores who can and will actually help you with a problem. D

So is only a better old PC, nothing more.

And I have had one. I don't know why people always think that when someone say something about Apple is because they don't have one or doesn't have had one. I expect that the Intel iMacs have better ventilation because the G5 iMac was not quiet, it was one of the louder computers I have had.

 

[justperry]

Yeah, a little. Especially now that you agreed with the person who said the cowbell is 'not a speaker, it's the actual computer', and then completely contradicted that by saying that 'the base of this computer is the actual computer'.

You must have been reading that wrong, I didn't contradict Myself.
I just repeated his use of that word to ask him why He is confused, He should not be confused because it is obvious that the actual computer is in the base.

 

[justperry]

Never had a virus. Only time I had a virus is when I was a kid and didn't know about computers at all.

You just contradicted yourself in one line of text

Edit :

On Windows OS 7

Windows 7 is enough stable to be useable, but its still not clean sailing.

People who claim never to have had a virus, who says, you might even don't know you had one.
Only if you are not connected to the internet that statement might be true.
Virus scanners are always on and use energy, if there wouldn't be virusses there would be huge power savings if you take into account all computers in the world.
Virus scanners suck, in the beginning they are mostly free and use little resources but when they get popular they tend to add more and more crap and become hogs on the computer.
What is still the same is when you get an error, as has been for a long time you still get those strange errors like "The program must shut down Error x01bd534d??????
If I go back to My country many family and friends are asking Me to help with their Windows computers cause of problems with them, and that's (still) the truth.

Glad to have Macs since 13 years ago.
(My old Powerbook G4 booted up faster than W7)

 

[Rogifan]

We all know that iPhones break very easily. If they didn't, I wouldn't know more than 10 people who have had theirs repaired because of a cracked screen.

Again I call BS on that. People aren't going to buy a phone they know is going break and have to be replaced. Is the iPhone more fragile than other phones b/c it's glass? Sure. But again where is the hard data that supports all these supposed replacements. Going by you damn near every one who owns an iPhone 4/4S has to replace the phone because of cracked glass. If they break that easily than surely some of these replacement phones would break too, no? And at that point wouldn't people just buy another phone when their contract is up or they're available for upgrade? Is there any hard data that supports people leaving iPhone for, say, Samsung Galaxy, Motorola Droid or HTC Evo? And doing so b/c their iPhone is too fragile?

 

[Elevon]

I would absolutely love a Vizio monitor!

 

[andy721]

Vizio is so cheap

If you don't agree with this then your comment will not be valid whatever it may be, so don't be stubborn and let me be blunt about this.

Vizio copied the keyboard flat sleek design & it looks like they made a magic pad to go along with it. I smell a lawsuit. Vizio to make something like this is like them their products are sony they have cheap inners will break within months not years.

Vizio please stop unless it's a class top of the time product then you might get more sales but continue to keep using sony's cheap plastic inners then please go bankrupt I highly doubt the picture will look good the comp will be 5 years advance with a crap load of bloatware just because they think they can go ahead and make a computer.

Look out for a 1000% mark up on this product down the road. I reccommend not to buy it at all get a real nice machine and don't trust anything that just started out in the computer field.

Trust me this is probably the best advice you'll ever hear from someone and people who disagree means they own vizio products which are utter complete garbage.

 

[erzhik]

Hopefully the Lumina 900 won't look as trashy and cheap as pretty much every other Nokia phone I can remember. Metro is a great interface; cheap handsets would ruin it pretty quick.

Do you remember N9/Lumia 800? Those were and still are considered as most beautiful phones ever made by any manufacturer.

 

[Renzatic]

You just contradicted yourself in one line of text

Edit :

On Windows OS 7

Windows 7 is enough stable to be useable, but its still not clean sailing.

People who claim never to have had a virus, who says, you might even don't know you had one.
Only if you are not connected to the internet that statement might be true.
Virus scanners are always on and use energy, if there wouldn't be virusses there would be huge power savings if you take into account all computers in the world.
Virus scanners suck, in the beginning they are mostly free and use little resources but when they get popular they tend to add more and more crap and become hogs on the computer.
What is still the same is when you get an error, as has been for a long time you still get those strange errors like "The program must shut down Error x01bd534d??????
If I go back to My country many family and friends are asking Me to help with their Windows computers cause of problems with them, and that's (still) the truth.

Glad to have Macs since 13 years ago.
(My old Powerbook G4 booted up faster than W7)

No. You just don't get viruses if you have any amount of common sense. I do a scan with MS Security Essentials and run Malwarebytes once every three months just to be sure. The scans haven't pulled up anything in forever. There's nothing weird running under Task Manager. I've been pretty much running clean since XP.

Though to be fair, I did have the scanner block an infected PDF file the other day. I went to a random website, and the next thing I know, I'm getting a prompt to download some random file I never clicked on. Since I never have anything set to open automatically, it wouldn't be a huge deal. Virus scanner wouldn't have anything to catch it weren't for Firefox's annoying tendency to precache a download even before you tell it to save or open. But whatever. Nothing more than the most basic security measures stopped it. Measures you'd even follow on a Mac. Bugs aren't exactly a big problem.

And I haven't seen an error like "The program must shut down Error x01bd534d" since...damn...ever. On 7, if a program hangs, the window will turn a semi transparent white, then asks if you want to continue waiting for it to respond or shut it down. 99% of the time, telling it to shut down instantly closes it. So, once again, not a big deal. If a program crashes, it doesn't make a big, hex smeared issue out of things.

I don't get any weird error messages. No huge virus or malware attacks. No corrupted drivers. 7 basically does what I expect an OS to do. It lets me do my thing without getting in the way. If it were as bad as some of you people claim it is, I would've bailed for a Mac a long, long time ago.

 

[Steve121178]

I have been Windows free since 2007 and have not looked back since.

Yeah, you've told us about 29352343125 times already. You really don't need to keep saying it.

 

[divinox]

Go to an Apple Store, and try one.

2560 x 1440 pixels top quality display. MacOS X Lion. Absolutely quiet. Build quality that blows away any old PC. Beautiful design (the one item on the list that Vizio intends to do as well. I am sure they can manage "nicer than the average old PC", whether they can manage "beautiful" remains to be seen). People in their stores who can and will actually help you with a problem.

And customers who complain about the smallest problem, unlike the PC world where people seem to think that buying a computer that requires problem solving skills is a sign of intelligence.

My PC has 2560x1440. W7. Dead silent (more silent than my iMac). A+ build quality. Great design. Argue all you want that Macs are deluxe cars. Doesn't change the fact that no one is stopping you from getting a deluxe PC instead.

p.s.

i need more problem solving skills managing my macs than my pc.

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Apple deliberately chooses not to play in this particular segment of the market. They don't ship junk, which is basically what you'll be getting at those prices. It's a blessing that Apple doesn't lower themselves to that. You can't have one junk Mac and one high-end Mac and claim excellence and discriminating standards in computers.

i rest my case.

 

[SvP]

If you don't agree with this then your comment will not be valid whatever it may be..

Bla, blabla, bla.. I didn't even read your post because you made this remark upfront (thank you for saving me the time). I could easily and without any doubt conclude you are a douchebag and (hopefully) under age 12.

 

[OllyW]

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i rest my case.

Not one of Jonathan Ive's finest moments.

 

[Burger Thing]

i need more problem solving skills managing my macs than my pc.

Your so called "skills" need some fine tuning, me thinks.

 

[inlovewithi]

Your so called "skills" need some fine tuning, me thinks.

I have to agree with that guy, OSX is less flexible, I learned that when I bought my first Mac. It represents Steve Jobs philosophy of not letting the customers mess with things. If you read his book. I guess you would have to be a Windows power user to understand.

 

[Themaeds]

Gotta love plasmas, its hard to find one that isn't nice.

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Apple doesn't own the rights to a stand alone trackpad.

What if it's magical?

 

[dethmaShine]

Looks like the illegitimate child of a night of passion between an Apple iMac and a Lenovo All-In-one...

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It was a one-night stand, it didn't mean anything... oh well...

More importantly, where can I find that wallpaper?

 

[Shivetya]

If Vizio's PC is anything like their TVs, Apple has nothing to worry about. Neither do other PC vendors.

Why the uprating on this comment? I bought my parents Vizio Televisions and they are doing just fine, they were the best priced LED driven LCD television I could find at the time.

 

[dethmaShine]

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/vizio-officially-introduces-pc-line/

I must say I love the design.

 

[knightlie]

[DVD Drivers] Really?

Check out your DVD device in Device Manager - it will give you details of the driver being used.

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I have to agree with that guy, OSX is less flexible, I learned that when I bought my first Mac. It represents Steve Jobs philosophy of not letting the customers mess with things. If you read his book. I guess you would have to be a Windows power user to understand.

You shouldn't need to be a "power user," that's the point. My wife can cook a meal without knowing how to repair the oven.

If you need to be a power user to operate your computer then the OS has already failed you.

 

[Oletros]

Check out your DVD device in Device Manager - it will give you details of the driver being used

I need to put icons to show that it is sarcasm

 

[RoccoFan]

Gorilla Glass

Screw making the glass a fraction of a millimeter thinner - make it more shatter proof!

The article is misleading. I really really really doubt iPhones have Gorilla glass. My Samsung Epic has it and I've dropped it many times with no damage to the glass. iPhone screens break too easily for them to be Gorilla glass. I love Apple, but this is just another example of them putting profits above making a product with quality that is as high as possible.

 

[*LTD*]

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i rest my case.

That's usually the best most people can do. And it's from over a decade ago.

 

[inlovewithi]

Check out your DVD device in Device Manager - it will give you details of the driver being used.

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You shouldn't need to be a "power user," that's the point. My wife can cook a meal without knowing how to repair the oven.

If you need to be a power user to operate your computer then the OS has already failed you.

Do you know what a power user is? You're not a power user because you probably only use your computer to go on the internet, or watch a video. Common sense should tell you that just simply using your computer wasn't what I was talking about in my post. Think. Also, comprehension, where did I say that you need to be a power user to use Windows? I didn't say that, yet it became a fact in your head, so I can't trust your opinion on anything else you say since reality for you is probably different from what it really is. Power user means that I like to do things beyond just clicking on my browser and going on the internet, and Windows allows more flexibility and that's a fact. Steve Jobs philosophy if you read his book, is to keep things away from the user, so you can't thinker with OSX in the same level you can with Windows.

 

[yg17]

Check out your DVD device in Device Manager - it will give you details of the driver being used..

Big deal.

Every OS has drivers for every piece of hardware connected to the system. Drivers are how the software knows how to talk to the hardware. You don't have to install DVD drivers on Windows - all optical drives use the same set of standards so they're plug and play (much like USB drives, keyboards and mice), but there is a driver there. OSX has a driver for the DVD drive too.